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terryhamel
03-01-2008, 08:04 PM
I compiled several ideas and links from here and mixed it together, then emailed it. Here is the response:

"Thank you for sending this information. I have looked it over and feel somewhat stupid. No democrat wants to stop the war. I am interested in how you think Mr. Paul can win in this election. Thank you for taking time to call your neighbors and talk politics."

The key is to get them to think by showing them Obama's war mongering foreign policy advisor:


Obama's foreign policy = same as Bush?

The media isn't mentioning that Obama's key foreign policy advisor is Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was Carter's foreign policy advisor and the reason for fear mongering against the Russians. Brzezinski is a member of the CFR, Bilderberg Group, and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission - all organizations that promote unelectable, unaccountable rulers in a one world government by destabilizing counties through wars, corporatism and economic meltdown.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/documents/the-war-over-the-wonks.html

For more detail about his life's "work":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Barack Obama Endorsed by Zbigniew Brzezinski
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caeP33025UY

After you've a primer on Brzezinski, listen to Obama talk about "change" - moving troops from Iraq to Pakistan in 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

Mike Gravel talks about Obama's money sources:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSggNsSAyrs

Those figures can be verified at http://www.opensecrets.org

The same Gravel clip, but deeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhZzh83C0iM

If a government knows people will vote for less wars over more wars, then they also know they can always just run two candidates - one who is a total warmonger, and one who wants the wars the government/bankers/etc want. Guess who wins every time? The bankers and the military industrial complex.

Others are looking past Obama's stylistic orating and getting to the issues:
http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=5413#more

To get a summary of Obama's voting record, take a look at:
http://www.knowbeforeyouvote.org

People voting for the lesser of two evils are the reason we've destroyed our political system. I do not vote for 'moved wars' or 'less wars' - I vote for 'no wars'. That's why I vote for Ron Paul.

brandon
03-01-2008, 08:27 PM
good info, but gravel isn't a conservative

terryhamel
03-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Quite right - a little edit fixes that. Thanks for pointing that out.

Conza88
03-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Or show them my vid? in sig below.

Granted he did not vote against the war, because he couldn't have.

- Thats used to get Obama supporters on side.. they believe he did mostly. lol ;s

brandon
03-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Quite right - a little edit fixes that. Thanks for pointing that out.

No problem, I think I will send this to a couple Obama supporters

Midnight77
03-01-2008, 09:21 PM
I compiled several ideas and links from here and mixed it together, then emailed it. Here is the response:

"Thank you for sending this information. I have looked it over and feel somewhat stupid. No democrat wants to stop the war. I am interested in how you think Mr. Paul can win in this election. Thank you for taking time to call your neighbors and talk politics."

The key is to get them to think by showing them Obama's war mongering foreign policy advisor:


Obama's foreign policy = same as Bush?

The media isn't mentioning that Obama's key foreign policy advisor is Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was Carter's foreign policy advisor and the reason for fear mongering against the Russians. Brzezinski is a member of the CFR, Bilderberg Group, and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission - all organizations that promote unelectable, unaccountable rulers in a one world government by destabilizing counties through wars, corporatism and economic meltdown.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/documents/the-war-over-the-wonks.html

For more detail about his life's "work":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Barack Obama Endorsed by Zbigniew Brzezinski
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caeP33025UY

After you've a primer on Brzezinski, listen to Obama talk about "change" - moving troops from Iraq to Pakistan in 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

Mike Gravel talks about Obama's money sources:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSggNsSAyrs

Those figures can be verified at http://www.opensecrets.org

The same Gravel clip, but deeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhZzh83C0iM

If a government knows people will vote for less wars over more wars, then they also know they can always just run two candidates - one who is a total warmonger, and one who wants the wars the government/bankers/etc want. Guess who wins every time? The bankers and the military industrial complex.

Others are looking past Obama's stylistic orating and getting to the issues:
http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=5413#more

To get a summary of Obama's voting record, take a look at:
http://www.knowbeforeyouvote.org

People voting for the lesser of two evils are the reason we've destroyed our political system. I do not vote for 'moved wars' or 'less wars' - I vote for 'no wars'. That's why I vote for Ron Paul.

Not to be a downer dude, but it's too late. If you think we can convince the Millions and Millions of Obama supporters to vote for Ron Paul at this juncture, it's just entirely too late.

cajuncocoa
03-01-2008, 09:23 PM
Good luck with that, but there's a reason the media has dubbed Obama's supporters as a kind of "cult"

terryhamel
03-02-2008, 01:33 AM
With the cult of personality Obama followers have fallen spell too, it's unlikely we can reach every person by November. However, we can take some ground one by one.

I've talked to 3 people over the last 3 days that we're supposedly RP supporters, but were being swayed to Obama because of they believed the media lie that Ron Paul "didn't have a chance" - delegate lies, drop out lies and electability lies. When I told them about Obama's foreign policy advisor, they woke up and asked "What can we do to get Ron Paul elected?" This brought them back into the fighting spirit and pushed them into activist mode. They were all very grateful for having that conversation.