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Ninja Homer
02-27-2008, 08:22 AM
Live stream:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/press022708.shtml

Pauliana
02-27-2008, 08:24 AM
Tell em, Ron!

smartguy911
02-27-2008, 08:24 AM
i cant see anything??

Vendico
02-27-2008, 08:25 AM
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/financialserv/16489/300_financialserv-qwertyuiop_070131.asx

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 08:26 AM
is it over i just tuned in...thanks for the link

smartguy911
02-27-2008, 08:26 AM
all i see "broadcasts are governed by the rules of the house of representatives and are not for political or commercial use" after that it stops.

smartguy911
02-27-2008, 08:27 AM
damn windows media player. it worked with VLC Media Player

Ninja Homer
02-27-2008, 08:29 AM
It should also work here, but Real Player rarely works for me and I gave up on it years ago:
http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan_org.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSO

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 08:29 AM
is ron paul finished speaking?

Shink
02-27-2008, 08:31 AM
Bernanke's live on CNBC right now......but let me guess: Ron's done, right? :(

shane2
02-27-2008, 08:32 AM
is ron paul finished speaking?Damn FOX business channel, had RP on speaking for a minute then switched off him till he was done. Hope a youtube comes up for this.

- Shane

Sandra
02-27-2008, 08:33 AM
It's a 3 hour meeting, I'll bet he's on a good deal.

jake
02-27-2008, 08:37 AM
this is real dry stuff ;)

nyrgoal99
02-27-2008, 08:38 AM
Did Ron Fly to washington for this?

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 08:38 AM
youtube anyone?? im going through Ron Paul withdrawal!!! i need my man.....i need my Ron Paul fix

ToryNotion
02-27-2008, 08:38 AM
Hopefully someone can capture a 'raw feed' rather than the cable networks edited version.

jrich4rpaul
02-27-2008, 08:40 AM
Cnbc

nyrgoal99
02-27-2008, 08:41 AM
Hopefully someone can capture a 'raw feed' rather than the cable networks edited version.

Is Ron there?

Ninja Homer
02-27-2008, 08:41 AM
is ron paul finished speaking?

I'm not sure how these hearings normally work. RP just spoke for a few minutes, and this was before Bernanke spoke. My guess is that RP was the only one who requested to give a preliminary speech before the hearing started, and he will be on again to question Bernanke after he gives his testimony.

Join The Paul Side
02-27-2008, 08:42 AM
TOOOOB, Please! :D

Ninja Homer
02-27-2008, 08:45 AM
The full webcast should be archived here later:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/ht022608.shtml

Join The Paul Side
02-27-2008, 08:47 AM
Thanks. Nice work! :D

RonPaulFanInGA
02-27-2008, 08:53 AM
It's on CNBC. When does this meeting end? Anyone know?

RonPaulFanInGA
02-27-2008, 08:55 AM
Did Ron Fly to washington for this?

No, Dr. Paul biked to Washington.

Ninja Homer
02-27-2008, 08:57 AM
It's on CNBC. When does this meeting end? Anyone know?

It should be going on another 2 hours, until about 1:00 PM Eastern.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 08:58 AM
No, Dr. Paul biked to Washington.

sustaining himself on chocolate chip cookies.

dawnbt
02-27-2008, 08:58 AM
Of course as soon as I log on to the feed they go to recess!

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:00 AM
The full webcast should be archived here later:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/ht022608.shtml

i'm watching it here.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:02 AM
The full webcast should be archived here later:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/ht022608.shtml

RP at about 10:47

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:05 AM
live feed back on

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:05 AM
sustaining himself on chocolate chip cookies.

lolllll......and a big salad.....he biked in because hes a compulsive exerciser:D

Cleaner44
02-27-2008, 09:07 AM
Chairman Frank is speaking to some of the problems such as the bond auctions not going well.

ToryNotion
02-27-2008, 09:09 AM
use it wurks4me2. Barney 'we need more regulation' Frank is droning on...and on....and on...

Cleaner44
02-27-2008, 09:09 AM
Chairman Frank is hitting Bernake about how the commerical banks still claim not to know what their "exposure" is.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:10 AM
Ron Paul is a much better speaker when he's speaking to people he has to school. I don't know if he is on again, but the point at 10:47 is only about 5:30 minutes.

Cleaner44
02-27-2008, 09:11 AM
Apparently the man sitting in the chairman's seat was not Chairman Franks.

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:12 AM
im not able to see that clip at 10:47....tube it?

scooter
02-27-2008, 09:12 AM
All of the networks that were airing Bernanke's testimony cut back to studio when Ron Paul started talking. I was flipping around and every single one of them did it.

I explained what I saw in a post in the economics forum.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124602

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:16 AM
Hes On Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:17 AM
funny a presidential candidate is speaking about a very important issue but cnn or any network news channel wont show it??? damn msm......

RonPaulFanInGA
02-27-2008, 09:19 AM
Hes On Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm watching on CNBC and I didn't see it.

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:23 AM
no no...he was on that live stream link posted earlier....hes done now....i dont kno if hell speak again....are u kidding me?? why would cnn, or any msm, want to air our presidential candidate speaking about our crashing economy?? **sarcasm**

Cleaner44
02-27-2008, 09:26 AM
I believe it is Congressman Randy Neugebauer hammer on Bernake now. Talking about the declining dollar.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:26 AM
Cinderella, you sound like an idiot. This is a serious hearing on a serious matter. It has nothing to do with the mainstream media.

Cleaner44
02-27-2008, 09:27 AM
Congressman Randy Neugebauer is doing some good work right now on how this is all hurting Americans.

DFF
02-27-2008, 09:27 AM
Is there some legal action that can be taken against these shmucks? Censoring a leading member of this House Banking Committee while he's speaking is beyond Orwellian. Something needs to be done.

freelance
02-27-2008, 09:27 AM
Watch closely. His voice cracks every time he lies.

Cleaner44
02-27-2008, 09:29 AM
"New problems in the economy are popping up like a not very funny version of whack-a-mole"

Some lady busting on Bernake, classic!

Congresswoman Maloney I believe.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:30 AM
i loled when she said whack a mole. I pictured it in my head.

Shink
02-27-2008, 09:35 AM
So....Ron was never on tv? I have it on but am focusing on the computer, figuring I'd hear Ron and turn around as soon as he's speaking. If he did speak and was aired on CNBC, then I can rewind the DVR, otherwise...:(

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:36 AM
Cinderella, you sound like an idiot. This is a serious hearing on a serious matter. It has nothing to do with the mainstream media.

what was that all about. pretty sure that wasn't her point.

Daveforliberty
02-27-2008, 09:37 AM
Did you see that "economist" on after Ron? I had to turn it off. Monetary policy should be "low on our list of worries," the Fed was "doing a great job," Congress should be "proud of the bi-partisan stimulus package..."

Excuse me, I have to throw up now...

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:38 AM
Cinderella, you sound like an idiot. This is a serious hearing on a serious matter. It has nothing to do with the mainstream media.

no im not an idiot....they were airing it on cnn msnbc and faux....but as soon as ron paul was going to speak they cut it out and went to commentaries or commercials....so yes this is a serious matter and we had our candidate there who was going to speak about it and they cut it out...so yes it does have something to do with the MSM..........by the way i dont go around this forum insulting peoples intelligence id appreciate u not do that to me....

RonPaulFanInGA
02-27-2008, 09:40 AM
Is Paul still even in the room? Where is he?

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:41 AM
It's an on going hearing... it's not the Ron Paul vs. Ben Bernanke show. Give me a break with this faux news bs. This is about the state of our economy, not Ron Paul presidential boost.

Not insulting your intelligence, just trying to hint to you you shouldn't bash because you're not seeing what you want on TV. You can watch a live, unedited broadcast if you wish.

Sorry for coming across so strongly, but I find it offensive you go down that route. How about before you go preaching this MSM conspiracy you actually take the meeting for what it is.

benhaskins
02-27-2008, 09:41 AM
voting ?

DFF
02-27-2008, 09:42 AM
Is Paul still even in the room? Where is he?

The MSM have digitally removed him.

RonPaulalways
02-27-2008, 09:44 AM
I can't believe the level of retardation in the halls of power. It's outrageous.

Shink
02-27-2008, 09:44 AM
It's an on going hearing it's not the Ron Paul vs. Ben Bernanke show. Give me a break with this faux news bs. This is about the state of our economy, not Ron Paul presidential boost.

Not insulting your intelligence, just trying to hint to you you shouldn't bash because you're not seeing what you want on TV. You can watch a live, unedited broadcast if you wish.

Ron Paul's presidential run is about the state of our economy as well. It's frustrating to listen to a crooked Fed chairman and a group of Congressmen who mostly don't understand that they're asking for inflation.

JK/SEA
02-27-2008, 09:45 AM
voting ?

Yes. Relax. Ron was there giving an opening statement at the start. They have issues to vote on. He isn't going to miss this hearing.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:46 AM
I can't believe the level of retardation in the halls of power. It's outrageous.

It's our fault. We should be in there. We've let these idiots take over.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Yea, but some people here make this meeting out to be a mainstream media conspiracy and Paul is of no relevance. GIVE ME A BREAK. This is serious, everyone is getting a chance to speak. Again, this isn't the Ron vs Ben show. This meeting isn't meant to have any affect on his presidential run. It's a serious part of his job.

ThePieSwindler
02-27-2008, 09:48 AM
The problem that the federal reserve faces, is that this impending recession is hard to manipulate with fiscal policy. In some simple instances, manipulation of fiscal policy actually has its advantages, but when things get too complex, tinkering can actually make things worse - and often its compounded from previous decisions. The housing market is an example of the Fed's manipulations creating an eventual butterfly effect - with house prices down and commodity prices up, GDP growth is even LESS than the equilibrium than it would be were just one or the other the issue, As it stands, the housing market crash had coincided at a terrible time with a sharp spike in commodity prices. This means that the normal methods of "smoothing" will cause many negative unintended consequences.

This is a classic case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" - if they cut interest rates, consumption may rise, but savings will probably fall, and since savings is simply a time function of consumption/investment in many cases, it might actually hurt long run growth, rather than help it. This highlights the biggest problem with the fed - not that it is evil bankers trying to enslave the population, but that it is humans trying to manipulate an economy much more complex and nuanced than graphs and models would indicate.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:51 AM
And thank you, JK/SEA thank you for saying that. People are up in arms because Paul spoke for a minute and they think that was it and it wasn't enough. RELAX. It's not a conspiracy against Paul in this meeting...it's serious business. Come on, be rational.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:52 AM
Yea, but some people here make this meeting out to be a mainstream media conspiracy and Paul is of no relevance. GIVE ME A BREAK. This is serious, everyone is getting a chance to speak. Again, this isn't the Ron vs Ben show. This meeting isn't meant to have any affect on his presidential run. It's a serious part of his job.

Nobody was doing that. They were speaking about the media coverage of it. Not the meeting itself. Relax. Not a bid deal.

aravoth
02-27-2008, 09:53 AM
who is this guy talking righ now?

durden0
02-27-2008, 09:53 AM
The guy asking speaking now asked him about debt to foreigners! Go him!

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:53 AM
I suggest you go back and read some posts, liberty...

scooter
02-27-2008, 09:55 AM
Yea, but some people here make this meeting out to be a mainstream media conspiracy and Paul is of no relevance. GIVE ME A BREAK. This is serious, everyone is getting a chance to speak. Again, this isn't the Ron vs Ben show. This meeting isn't meant to have any affect on his presidential run. It's a serious part of his job.

I think you're getting a bit out of line. I don't see anything wrong with people complaining about Ron Paul getting cut off. Every other Congressman was on television giving their commentary and as soon as it was Ron Paul's turn, every single station switched away.

Of course, this meeting is not the Ron Paul show. But it does tell you something about the media when the only person they cut away from was Ron Paul. In the Fox News case, they cut back to the meeting IMMEDIATELY following Ron Paul's speech.

I think you are looking at the wrong thing. People on here are not complaining about the meeting itself or people not getting a chance to talk. Ron Paul definitely had his chance to talk. The complaints are that the media chooses to air everything EXCEPT Ron Paul's time.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:55 AM
everyone is telling everyone to "Relax". reminds me of Zoolander.

Give me liberty
02-27-2008, 09:56 AM
Was Ron paul on?

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 09:57 AM
I think you're getting a bit out of line. I don't see anything wrong with people complaining about Ron Paul getting cut off. Every other Congressman was on television giving their commentary and as soon as it was Ron Paul's turn, every single station switched away.

Of course, this meeting is not the Ron Paul show. But it does tell you something about the media when the only person they cut away from was Ron Paul. In the Fox News case, they cut back to the meeting IMMEDIATELY following Ron Paul's speech.

I think you are looking at the wrong thing. People on here are not complaining about the meeting itself or people not getting a chance to talk. Ron Paul definitely had his chance to talk. The complaints are that the media chooses to air everything EXCEPT Ron Paul's time.

+1 If it had been any other candidate (besides Gravel) it would have been in the media. That's all we're saying. Nothing else.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:57 AM
He didn't get cut off, he had an opening statement. The meeting is far from over. I think "out of line" constitutes jumping to conclusions when Paul isn't on the mic.

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 09:58 AM
Yea, but some people here make this meeting out to be a mainstream media conspiracy and Paul is of no relevance. GIVE ME A BREAK. This is serious, everyone is getting a chance to speak. Again, this isn't the Ron vs Ben show. This meeting isn't meant to have any affect on his presidential run. It's a serious part of his job.


what im saying is that if mccain were there giving his 2 cents or if obama was there it would be all over the news and they would praise them for knowing whats going on and they would be praised for working toward finding a solution to this problem....people need to know that ron paul is there and he is fighting for them....true its not about ron paul right now but if we have someone whos trying to run for office it only makes sense to air something like this with his opinion....rather than spend their time on amy winehouses drug problems or paris hiltons herps.....so yes it is a conspiracy....do u think they want americans to kno how paul feels about the crashing dollar and the fact that WE ARE IN A RECESSION?? no....thats why they wont air him but theyll air everyone else speak?? yes everyone we can watch it live...we kno this because we search for ron paul and what hes been doing...the average american...the ones who dont know paul dont do this because they dont kno he exists....they rely on the media to give them their news....so yes im angry the media conspires to black him out....

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 09:59 AM
News networks can edit footage any way they want, so why are you complaining? You can watch an unedited live broadcast of the meeting; Nothing is cut out. Why are you watching Fox news for the meeting..so you have something to be mad at them for?

scooter
02-27-2008, 10:01 AM
He didn't get cut off, he had an opening statement. The meeting is far from over. I think "out of line" constitutes jumping to conclusions when Paul isn't on the mic.

Out of line is starting an argument that didn't even need to be started.

A few people were upset that they tuned into a network and saw Ron Paul, and then saw the network cut away.

You turned that into a "I hate you conspiracy people" rant.

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 10:03 AM
right i know that i can find it on my own...but millions dont do that....and this was a chance they could have seen what Dr. Pauls says about this issue...btw paul spoke more than once...and neither times were on air....they are showing everyone elses opinion but the presidential candidate himself! its crazy....now im not going to respond anymore i have to go to my clinical and deal with crazy people who make more sense than the pigs on capitol hill

no hard feelings....everyone relax....like zoolander...hahaha

durden0
02-27-2008, 10:03 AM
everyone is telling everyone to "Relax". reminds me of Zoolander.

relax

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Cinderella said "so yes it is a conspiracy"

This isn't a thread about that, it's about the meeting. Again, you can watch the hearing live and unedited.

Can you just watch the unedited live broadcast instead of trying to say that everyone is in a conspiracy against Paul? "Zomggg fox went to commercial before paul spoke they must hate him"

benhaskins
02-27-2008, 10:05 AM
it happens everyday on the msm. the "up in arms" phase seems a little outdated.

Give me liberty
02-27-2008, 10:05 AM
ron paul is on

durden0
02-27-2008, 10:06 AM
quiet down now, paul is on!

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:06 AM
He's on! watch out, men in black suits might take him out. Conspiracy, I say!

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 10:06 AM
woot woot....now im happy :)

AcidReign
02-27-2008, 10:07 AM
He didn't get cut off, he had an opening statement. The meeting is far from over. I think "out of line" constitutes jumping to conclusions when Paul isn't on the mic.

It was "the" opening statement. Why are you so upset, others are upset? Putting on everyone but Paul at least warrants a WTF.

Bruno
02-27-2008, 10:07 AM
on again now live

slamhead
02-27-2008, 10:07 AM
LOL...Dr. Paul needs to comb his hair or needs a hair cut...probably been too busy. I bet he pays $20 for his hair cuts as opposed to $400.

slamhead
02-27-2008, 10:08 AM
M3...is that printing of money?

nyrgoal99
02-27-2008, 10:08 AM
I love his he rips into Bernanke

Bruno
02-27-2008, 10:10 AM
Gold, Silver, Platinum all up today

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:10 AM
M3 is M2 (which includes M1) plus things like CDs

RadiantBlueLight
02-27-2008, 10:10 AM
Paul's opening statement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EQ1sg6GhZE

IChooseLiberty
02-27-2008, 10:10 AM
M3...is that printing of money?

Basically. It's a quantification of the money supply. I've not seen one but I imagine it is similiar to the H3 report of non-borrowed bank reserves.

nyrgoal99
02-27-2008, 10:11 AM
I love that our candidate is smarter than everyone else.

Cinderella
02-27-2008, 10:11 AM
He's on! watch out, men in black suits might take him out. Conspiracy, I say!

in the words of ron paul "make fun buddy!"

i think ur here to start problems...:rolleyes:

slamhead
02-27-2008, 10:11 AM
Bernaki mentions the CPI. The CPI is a farce now. The fed cannot meet their goals so they mess with that now. They now expect you to buy hamburger instead of steak and pay more for a new car because it comes with more extras. CPI is not what it used to be.

WilliamC
02-27-2008, 10:12 AM
Bird-yankee just agreed with Ron Paul that the FED has no control over the rate of inflation!

greendiseaser
02-27-2008, 10:13 AM
That was awesome!
Go Ron Go!

He made ole Helicopter Ben start to shake.

Awe.
Poor Ben,
I mean...
he's just following his "policy mandate".

:rolleyes:

aravoth
02-27-2008, 10:13 AM
who was the Congressman that asked Helicopter Ben about foreigners dropping our debt?

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:14 AM
M3 is not printing money, it's the broadest measurement of money. Money supply is measured by liquidity.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 10:15 AM
I love his he rips into Bernanke

Bernanke is such a freakin sleeze bag.

nyrgoal99
02-27-2008, 10:16 AM
The CPI is a farce now. They mess with that now. They now expect you to buy hamburger instead of steak and pay more for a new car because it comes with more extras. CPI is not what it used to be.

Exactly. The CPI is no longer a lasket of goods like it use to be.

Give me liberty
02-27-2008, 10:17 AM
Royce is nuts lol

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:17 AM
He's not exactly a sleaze bag, and this situation isn't entirely his. It's impossible for one person to fix the situation we are in. I don't agree with the steps he's taken, but it's much more than just him. It's not entirely fair he's taking the force of his predecessors, and the federal government mistakes.

Blowback
02-27-2008, 10:19 AM
He's not exactly a sleaze bag, and this situation isn't entirely his. It's impossible for one person to fix the situation we are in. I don't agree with the steps he's taken, but it's much more than just him. It's not entirely fair he's taking the force of his predecessors, and the federal government mistakes.

Is that you Ben? I don't get it, how can you be on TV and the Ron Paul forums at teh same time?

The bottom line is that he is 100% accountable for all of the decisions he has made since being in office and they have all been crap so...

mello
02-27-2008, 10:21 AM
What is he saying. I'm at work & that windows link doesn't work for me.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:22 AM
har har, we have a comedian. So are you saying Ben is responsible for everything right now? Nothing to do with nixon taking us off the gold standard?

He could have made all of the best decisions and we'd still be in trouble. It's unavoidable.

vitaminb12
02-27-2008, 10:22 AM
He's not exactly a sleaze bag, and this situation isn't entirely his. It's impossible for one person to fix the situation we are in. I don't agree with the steps he's taken, but it's much more than just him. It's not entirely fair he's taking the force of his predecessors, and the federal government mistakes.

You don't get to occupy this kind of position in the power structure without being a sleaze bag.

slamhead
02-27-2008, 10:22 AM
Bernanke is such a freakin sleeze bag.

Stop insulting bags of sleeze.

rockandrollsouls
02-27-2008, 10:24 AM
Stupid generalizations. I suppose his appointment had nothing to do with his impressive education history. Again, I don't agree with most of his decisions, but the situation is unavoidable. He couldn't have fixed it.

hawks4ronpaul
02-27-2008, 10:26 AM
This is a classic case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't"

I always choose don't--but they always do.

http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

aravoth
02-27-2008, 10:27 AM
Stupid generalizations. I suppose his appointment had nothing to do with his impressive education history. Again, I don't agree with most of his decisions, but the situation is unavoidable. He couldn't have fixed it.

He didn't have to make it worse. His education never made him wise.

slamhead
02-27-2008, 10:29 AM
The trade he is talking about is not open trade...it is managed trade.

Blowback
02-27-2008, 10:30 AM
har har, we have a comedian. So are you saying Ben is responsible for everything right now? Nothing to do with nixon taking us off the gold standard?

He could have made all of the best decisions and we'd still be in trouble. It's unavoidable.

Pleas see quote again because I didn't say that. I said he is 100% accountable for all his decisions.

Yes we'd still be in trouble (OBVIOUSLY) but at least we would be in a known recision and we would be liquidating the bad debt IF HE HAD MADE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

INSTEAD, this idiot has us in limbo between catastrophic failure and slightly less catastrophic failure.

hawks4ronpaul
02-27-2008, 10:30 AM
"New problems in the economy are popping up like a not very funny version of whack-a-mole"

Some lady busting on Bernake, classic!

Congresswoman Maloney I believe.

For some reason, whack-a-mole is one of DC's favorite analogies for anything from Iraq to monetary policy.

In DC, almost anything is either whack-a-mole or a perfect storm.

Take your pick.


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

Blowback
02-27-2008, 10:32 AM
For some reason, whack-a-mole is one of DC's favorite analogies for anything from Iraq to monetary policy.

In DC, almost anything is either whack-a-mole or a perfect storm.

Take your pick.


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

I've got to start using the whack-a-mole analogy in my consulting work.

aravoth
02-27-2008, 10:35 AM
What the fuck is the fed chair giving a lecture on saving the enviornment for?

benhaskins
02-27-2008, 10:35 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bernake

ForLiberty-RonPaul
02-27-2008, 10:39 AM
Stop insulting bags of sleeze.

sorry, you're right. I will also in the future refrain from insulting douchebags, liars, dickheads, herpes warts, rectal discharge, and ...uh... jerks when talking about Bernanke. :D

hawks4ronpaul
02-27-2008, 10:41 AM
What the fuck is the fed chair giving a lecture on saving the enviornment for?

Why did Congress always ask Greenspan about fiscal policy (Congress' job) instead of monetary policy (Greenspan's job)?

I am waiting for them to ask Bernanke about baseball steroids.


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

IRO-bot
02-27-2008, 10:42 AM
Gah. I missed Ron Paul didn't I?

hawks4ronpaul
02-27-2008, 10:43 AM
Is that you Ben? I don't get it, how can you be on TV and the Ron Paul forums at teh same time?

The bottom line is that he is 100% accountable for all of the decisions he has made since being in office and they have all been crap so...


Digg has had this "Bernanke resign" article since August 2007:

h ttp://digg.com/business_finance/Should_Bernanke_Resign


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

slamhead
02-27-2008, 10:46 AM
Loved the discussion on voluntary compliance to codes of conduct. Yeah I will believe that when I see it.

affa
02-27-2008, 10:48 AM
Cinderella said "so yes it is a conspiracy"

This isn't a thread about that, it's about the meeting. Again, you can watch the hearing live and unedited.

Can you just watch the unedited live broadcast instead of trying to say that everyone is in a conspiracy against Paul? "Zomggg fox went to commercial before paul spoke they must hate him"

Do you think people in the MSM talk about when to cut to commericial?

Or do you think it's random?

If they talk about it, you know, conspire, then it's a 'conspiracy'.

IRO-bot
02-27-2008, 10:50 AM
They are robots, they don't speak.

Jason726
02-27-2008, 10:55 AM
These frickin committee members are so clueless. They don't even know what questions to ask. RP got bernanke to agree with him on some problems and the rest of the committee has almost ignored it. Not one of them have asked something referring to RP's ideas. This is just sad......

benhaskins
02-27-2008, 10:57 AM
maybe they are in favor of having the federal reserve system

IRO-bot
02-27-2008, 10:57 AM
it is only official when it has charts, graphs, and footnotes. remember that folks.

RadiantBlueLight
02-27-2008, 10:59 AM
Ron vs. Bernanke today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbG2xTYJ5Z8

Blowback
02-27-2008, 10:59 AM
Do you think people in the MSM talk about when to cut to commericial?

Or do you think it's random?

If they talk about it, you know, conspire, then it's a 'conspiracy'.

Did you miss the Newspeak memo #23148XY8?

Conspiracy and Conspire are no longer words that have meaning. They are just flags that say you are wacko now to the rest of the world. Everything is as it appears at face value or else you are insane. It is unimaginable that someone would think one thing and do/say another.

Geez... I thought everyone knew that.

CurtisLow
02-27-2008, 10:59 AM
Darn... I missed Ron Paul.......... It's over!

Jason726
02-27-2008, 11:00 AM
Ron vs. Bernanke today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbG2xTYJ5Z8

Thank you

mrchubbs
02-27-2008, 11:03 AM
Ron vs. Bernanke today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbG2xTYJ5Z8


Seems to be missing about 2 minutes.

Jason726
02-27-2008, 11:05 AM
Yea, it is, and thats the part I missed. I just started watching it live during the middle of RPs statement.

scooter
02-27-2008, 11:07 AM
Rick Santelli on CNBC is awesome. Every time they bring him into a conversation he rants about inflation and Fed mismanagement.

He just now said on CNBC "people may disagree with Ron Paul on politics or foreign policy, but here in Chicago when the traders heard him speak they were chearing."

That's not the exact quote, but that's the gist of it. He's at the Chicago Board of Trade where futures are traded. They are very interested in bond markets up there as well.

No1ButPaul08
02-27-2008, 11:09 AM
Did anybody see the CNBC analyst compliment Ron. Can't remember everything he said but the thing that struck me was, "when he started talking, the traders in Chicago started clapping." He also gave credit to Ron for being ahead of his time talking about the declining dollar

No1ButPaul08
02-27-2008, 11:10 AM
Rick Santelli on CNBC is awesome. Every time they bring him into a conversation he rants about inflation and Fed mismanagement.

He just now said on CNBC "people may disagree with Ron Paul on politics or foreign policy, but here in Chicago when the traders heard him speak they were chearing."

That's not the exact quote, but that's the gist of it. He's at the Chicago Board of Trade where futures are traded. They are very interested in bond markets up there as well.

He had a nice smirk on his face after he said that. He was pleased he got his Ron Paul comments in.

shane2
02-27-2008, 11:11 AM
Saw that, too...

CNBC Ron Santana just said that when Ron Paul spoke the traders on the floor there started cheering him on with his talk that the dollar being devalued is the core problem!

- Shane

scooter
02-27-2008, 11:11 AM
He had a nice smirk on his face after he said that. He was pleased he got his Ron Paul comments in.

He's a regular analyst on there and he has been complaining about the Fed cuts for several months. That's the first time I've heard him mention Ron Paul, though.

I thought it was great that he mentioned the Chicago traders "cheering" when Ron Paul spoke.

Live Free
02-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Ron Paul is a much better speaker when he's speaking to people he has to school. One of the dictionary definitions of Doctor is a teacher. :)

Freedom&Reason
02-27-2008, 11:20 AM
did anybody youtube the CNBC Rick statement?

yoshimaroka
02-27-2008, 11:32 AM
did anybody youtube the CNBC Rick statement?

Seconded

Delaware
02-27-2008, 11:38 AM
Rick Santelli or Ron Ensana?

BoBoDuFlachi
02-27-2008, 11:38 AM
bump for the truth

georgeajjan
02-27-2008, 12:58 PM
The day that Murray and his staff traveled to DC to tape the video endorsement (http://www.murraysabrin.com) by Ron Paul, near Ron's congressional office, we parked the car and as we got out and walked into a cafe, who was entering the Wachovia bank to withdraw cash but BEN BERNANKE!

This was on January 22, the very day that the FED cut rates by 75 basis points.

Murray went over and introduced himself, to the chagrin of the Secret Service guy there protecting Bernanke, and told him that he was running for the US Senate.

Watch this video for a recap - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbENPcFjVog

What these guys will do to Bernanke next year together will make him wish he never took the job.

Like Ron, Murray has been fighting the FED since 1976 - http://www.murraysabrin.com/federalreserve.asp

---
George Ajjan
Communications Director, Sabrin for Senate

shane2
02-27-2008, 01:34 PM
did anybody youtube the CNBC Rick statement?Anybody found that anywhere?

Join The Paul Side
02-27-2008, 04:12 PM
So basicly Bernanke admitted that inflation is going to follow oil? Nice. Given the war and everything else we can blame oil prices on, it doesn't seem they are going to stop the inflation any time soon since the neocons are persistent on 'staying the course' no matter how much the middle class and poor people suffer.

Bernanke is right on one thing. It's the responsibility on Congress to change our monetary policy. Harassing him isn't going to get it done. Congress are the ones that need to be harassed. :mad:

Carole
02-27-2008, 05:38 PM
Yes, some of you should be in there. So when are you going to run??? :)

The sooner the better I say.

colecrowe
02-27-2008, 08:15 PM
Is there some legal action that can be taken against these shmucks? Censoring a leading member of this House Banking Committee while he's speaking is beyond Orwellian. Something needs to be done.

I think over half the people here say anti-freedom, anti-property rights, anti-free speech, pro state controlled media (or "the people controlled") crap like this every time we talk about media.

How on earth these people think they believe in the Constitution or Ron Paul's message of freedom?

Just ban anyone that says anything like that ever again. They are fascists. (kidding about banning--but WHY do people think and say stuff like that? It's the most incredible thing I've ever heard.

DontFret
02-27-2008, 09:06 PM
Cinderella said "so yes it is a conspiracy"

This isn't a thread about that, it's about the meeting. Again, you can watch the hearing live and unedited.

Can you just watch the unedited live broadcast instead of trying to say that everyone is in a conspiracy against Paul? "Zomggg fox went to commercial before paul spoke they must hate him"


I've got to agree with those who've pointed out your aggressive and unwarranted accusations.

Anyone who has been paying attention to the Presidential campaign is well aware at this point how Paul has been censored. The choreographed nature in which the mainstream media ignores him, particularly when on an issue such as this one there is no more educated and informed legislator in all of Congress, is a disgrace. It is also wholly undeniable.

They purposely deny an extremely large cross-section of the American populace from witnessing what Dr. Paul has to say, as they again did in this case.

Separately, if you're not an apologist for the censorship that has been undeniably implemented to keep Dr. Paul's voice out of the public eye then at the very least your attitude is bad and your manners poor...

Bruno
02-27-2008, 10:04 PM
I've got to agree with those who've pointed out your aggressive and unwarranted accusations.

Anyone who has been paying attention to the Presidential campaign is well aware at this point how Paul has been censored. The choreographed nature in which the mainstream media ignores him, particularly when on an issue such as this one there is no more educated and informed legislator in all of Congress, is a disgrace. It is also wholly undeniable.

They purposely deny an extremely large cross-section of the American populace from witnessing what Dr. Paul has to say, as they again did in this case.

Separately, if you're not an apologist for the censorship that has been undeniably implemented to keep Dr. Paul's voice out of the public eye then at the very least your attitude is bad and your manners poor...

+1

As a presidential candidate, Paul's comments and questions to Bernanke should have been quoted all over the media today and addressed one of two ways:

1) "That guy Paul is crazy - did you hear what he just said to Bernanke?"
2) "Presidential candidate Paul is crazy like a fox - did you hear how he just took Bernanke to school?"

We all know #2 is how it went down.

To ignore a presidential candidate, who is a senior member of the Finance Committee, accusing the FED Chairman of immorally and purposefully causing inflation that is destroying our ecomony, is beyond belief. The only explanation is a purposeful media blackout. (I know, I'm preaching to the choir)

I looked through many MSM publications about the committee meeting today. It is all about Bernanke, Bernanke, Bernanke.

And yet Fox, CNN, and CNBC all broke into programming to cover 15 solid (boring) minutes of the Butts murder trial sentencing.

Stossel's "Give me a break" line comes to mind!

pinkmandy
02-27-2008, 10:45 PM
+1

As a presidential candidate, Paul's comments and questions to Bernanke should have been quoted all over the media today and addressed one of two ways:

1) "That guy Paul is crazy - did you hear what he just said to Bernanke?"
2) "Presidential candidate Paul is crazy like a fox - did you hear how he just took Bernanke to school?"

We all know #2 is how it went down.

To ignore a presidential candidate, who is a senior member of the Finance Committee, accusing the FED Chairman of immorally and purposefully causing inflation that is destroying our ecomony, is beyond belief. The only explanation is a purposeful media blackout. (I know, I'm preaching to the choir)

I looked through many MSM publications about the committee meeting today. It is all about Bernanke, Bernanke, Bernanke.

And yet Fox, CNN, and CNBC all broke into programming to cover 15 solid (boring) minutes of the Butts murder trial sentencing.

Stossel's "Give me a break" line comes to mind!

It's beyond belief, isn't it? #1 issue is economy. Our dollar is falling. Market could crash *any* second. And THIS is ignored? And don't forget the steroid coverage today...they made time for that, too. Oh, and Britney got to see her babies!

Captain America
02-27-2008, 10:46 PM
insane we he is not the front runner, complete insanity

fj45lvr
02-27-2008, 11:41 PM
maybe they are in favor of having the federal reserve system

Anything to shield them from actual RESPONSIBILITY....what politician actually wants that???? they will just look bad and not get re-elected if that were the real measure of their office.