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TwiLeXia
02-26-2008, 09:50 PM
"first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, and then you win."

We've made it past the attack phase, but we haven't won. It is true that we have brought some issues long not heard to the forefront. But at the rate we're going, the revolution is grinding to a halt.

Those of you in states already with primaries over: what are you doing? Taking a break? Sitting back and watching as Clinton and Obama and McCain continually dominate the media, with Ron Paul getting no attention except for the occasional broadcast that he "might" drop out?

I'll admit I've done the same. After the primary for NY was over, I haven't done anything for the Revolution.

While this is not representative of the entire revolution, the activity on these forums has decreased significantly, from around 500 users online per day, to now just around 175. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm not calling anyone out. It's just that before, we had something to aim for. The primaries were a cause for rally.

What is our goal? Is it to somehow, hope for a brokered convention? Is it to continue to attempt to tell our friends and family about Dr. Paul, when they feel that no one really cares about him? Is it to hope that McCain and Huckabee get hospitalized or incapacitated??

Those of you who have brought yourself to wholeheartedly support other Ron Paul candidates, I heartily salute you. But for those of us who have not and still cannot seem to break away from the inspiring Ron Paul as this revolution's leader and spokesperson, each day is more disappointing than the last.

But what if... what if we had a chance. What if we had one... more... chance... to make Dr. Paul president? A rallying cry for all of us to make Dr. Paul our president?

I urge you all, those of you who live in states that have already had primaries, to begin canvassing for a write-in of Ron Paul. I urge all of you to tell all your friends and family and spread the word of a national movement to write in a president for the first time ever. The campaign cannot support this write-in - Dr. Paul needs to stay in the race for his house seat. But they need not. We can do it simply by word of mouth, and begin a national movement to make Dr. Paul president, no matter what the means.

Operation Ron Paul.

See the links in my signature, and tell me what you think.

Lovecraftian4Paul
02-26-2008, 09:56 PM
It only counts if Ron Paul himself will agree to register as an official write-in candidate in each state. Otherwise, write-in votes will not be counted. At this early stage in the game, however, it would be more worthwhile to canvass for support to get Ron Paul to reverse his decision and run as an independent or third party candidate.

VRP08
02-26-2008, 09:58 PM
Somebody once told me here, that a candidate can't win unless he has support.

I fully agree with you. Sadly people see this campaign as being over. The MSM got exactly what they wanted, they finally got rid of us because we stopped caring. :(
Just in my recent thread about donating, couple of people asked "what's the point?"

I'm very disappointed people didn't feel stronger about it.

Jeremy
02-26-2008, 09:58 PM
They haven't attacked us. We aren't in prison. We are alive... there weren't riots... etc...

It's at the laugh stage

jake
02-26-2008, 10:00 PM
getting all these Ron Paul Republicans in office will be huge

crackyflipside
02-26-2008, 10:01 PM
I really LOL at the people who think a revolution is done in a few months.

This is not about Ron Paul getting elected, it is about bringing the truth to the masses and showing them everything that is going wrong and getting the generally apathetic nation questioning its government and participating in politics. It's about making our voices the loudest!

Rhys
02-26-2008, 10:16 PM
It's not about Ron Paul.

It's about several generations of re-education on a grassroots level, the same way the socialists are engages in re-education from the top. The socialists have been at it for 100 years. We have a lot of backtracking to do. What's more is, there will be pendulum swings. The freedom movement started in the first revolution, and it's a work in progress. It may take centuries for humanity to truly live free and understand freedom.

The other thing is, even when there's a mass paradigm shift in humanity and people think free, that could maybe last a few thousand years and end... all things end.

circly of life, cymba.

PlzPeopleWakeUp
02-26-2008, 10:17 PM
nt

Cowlesy
02-26-2008, 10:21 PM
The Revolution is not slowing.

It is just beginning.

WRellim
02-26-2008, 10:21 PM
Somebody once told me here, that a candidate can't win unless he has support.

Yes, but for many of us our primaries have been apparently held in "opposite land" in which case the maxim gets reversed:


Supporters can't win if they don't have a candidate.

Long and short of it is that you can canvass and "convert" all the people all day long for days and weeks... and then when the election rolls around your specific candidate has gone AWOL and those voters don't see anything about the candidate, neither local appearances or even TV ads... well they assume he quit... so they vote for someone else.

Two way streets are a b*tch aren't they.

VRP08
02-26-2008, 10:21 PM
It's not about Ron Paul.



Ron Paul as a person AND this wonderful message TOGETHER, is what makes the big picture. We were VERY luck to have someone honest and kind like that.

newbitech
02-26-2008, 10:26 PM
in response to thread title.

No. Your perception of what the revolution is, is changing.

-1 for general negativity.

VRP08
02-26-2008, 10:36 PM
I think the original poster was talking about this presidential RP run as revolution not the actual message that we will all spread anyway, regardless who is president. No?

trapfive
02-26-2008, 10:36 PM
They haven't attacked us. We aren't in prison. We are alive... there weren't riots... etc...

It's at the laugh stage

I agree, the establishment is laughing. The revolution has slowed; soon you will be digging in, digging trenches in every state, preparing for what comes next...the attack. I feel they are under-estimating their enemy. Soon the battles begin and there will be victories and defeats. But as in all wars, the soldiers on the ground must believe in what they fight for. That is your greatest strength, you believe, and as the enemy begins to crumble your revolution will grow and become unstoppable. At some point, perhaps not this election but after your troops make inroads in each state, the economy continues to fall and the wars rage on, more and more will join your ranks....for you are the winter soldier....

Quantumystic
02-26-2008, 10:41 PM
I agree that when Paul made the public "commitment" to not run as anything other than a Republican... it was a body blow.

I really wish he'd stuck with his original answer of having been elected 10 times as a Republican to Congress, and that he "had no plans" to run a third party campaign. It was straight-forward and honest, and left the door cracked just that tiny bit to keep the GOP leadership sweating.

Maybe, for some reason, Paul felt he had to close the door completely on the Indie run possibility to shore up the situation concerning his Congressional seat. I dunno.

There's been a bit of a "yo-yo" effect in play the last 5 wks. Giuliani dropped out. Then Super-Tuesday was a disappointment. Romney dropped out. Then Paul announced no Indie run and that he was refocusing on his seat race. Now... there's the McCain scandal.

At this point... everything feels like that dead space between moments in Time. Like we're waiting for a Sign. A bombshell in the McCain scandal, followed by Paul winning both contests in the Texas Primary would be like a Lightning Strike igniting a wildfire.

Now... we wait.

Rhys
02-26-2008, 10:44 PM
Now... we wait.

no we don't. we run for something or canvas or host funraisers.

Quantumystic
02-26-2008, 11:13 PM
no we don't. we run for something or canvas or host funraisers.

Well, I doubt you're gonna be "running for something" in the next week or so. Those in a position to canvas in the remaining states certainly should. And I for one have been very much observing the "fundraising" over the last 6 wks. It ain't pretty.

Less than $370,000 over the last three weeks. So don't tell me this campaign doesn't need a JumpStart.

"Perception is Reality". Especially in the realm of Public Support.

I'm the very Last One to give up or think we can't win. But... right now we need a Catalyzing Event. A Seminal Moment. A Sign from the Heavens.

So you wanna "do something"? Work on that. And in the meantime, fight like Hell for Texas.

molly_pitcher
02-26-2008, 11:16 PM
The revolution is waiting for the negative nancys and sheep to catch up. While most have been lamenting the loss of the primaries and caucuses, the states left standing are still working. There are still many states to catch, the past losses were disappointing, but there is still room to get noticed.

Rhys
02-26-2008, 11:33 PM
Well, I doubt you're gonna be "running for something" in the next week or so. Those in a position to canvas in the remaining states certainly should. And I for one have been very much observing the "fundraising" over the last 6 wks. It ain't pretty.

Less than $370,000 over the last three weeks. So don't tell me this campaign doesn't need a JumpStart.

"Perception is Reality". Especially in the realm of Public Support.

I'm the very Last One to give up or think we can't win. But... right now we need a Catalyzing Event. A Seminal Moment. A Sign from the Heavens.

So you wanna "do something"? Work on that. And in the meantime, fight like Hell for Texas.

i am running for something and i'm sad you don't "observe" anything good from the sideline. no offence.

Primbs
02-26-2008, 11:46 PM
Ron Paul should host some conventions with his pac where the supporters get together once a year to plot strategy and get to know each other.

JordanQ72
02-26-2008, 11:50 PM
I really don't see it as having ever gone past the ignore stage. Oh yeah, you have a single isolated incident of attacks, great. You realize he was an actual Presidential candidate at some point, yes?, so you'll have derision and attacks even in the middle of wide spread ignoring. If you really feel it's gone past the attack stage, it's simply because we're back at the ignore stage.

AJ Antimony
02-26-2008, 11:51 PM
At this point, the entire political process is in a slow mode. Leading up to Iowa/NH and then Super Tuesday, the excitement for primary season was at its height.

All that has passed and people want a break from election season. Yet nonetheless they are getting pounded with Clinton, Obama, McCain.

We can't forget that this year there will be election BLOWBACK for every state moving up its primary/caucus date. People sooner or later are going to hate hearing about the "big three." Dr. Paul knows what's going on. Give the man a break people.

idiom
02-26-2008, 11:51 PM
Well there is a bloody great Washington thing on the Horizon.

Tsunami's slow way down before they make landfall.

Mordan
02-27-2008, 06:10 AM
I really LOL at the people who think a revolution is done in a few months.

This is not about Ron Paul getting elected, it is about bringing the truth to the masses and showing them everything that is going wrong and getting the generally apathetic nation questioning its government and participating in politics. It's about making our voices the loudest!

+1

exactly... whiners are just feel good wanna win an election.
Ron Paul is now a brand name. Educate yourself on the issues and talk about it around you. The revolution must be won in the heads of countless sheeps.

constituent
02-27-2008, 06:15 AM
i am running for something and i'm sad you don't "observe" anything good from the sideline. no offence.

no need to set it off w/ a "no offense"

it is what it is, and you are correct.

tangent4ronpaul
02-27-2008, 09:20 AM
All campaigns go through a lull about this time - they pick up again in a couple of months.

This campaign just hit reset in most of the states - we are in the general election cycle now - the very beginning of it.

-n

TwiLeXia
02-28-2008, 06:54 PM
Where did I say in my post that the revolution is over? I fervently believe that it is still in the process of growing.

I'm not saying that the Ron Paul revolution is slowing down, I'm saying that WE as supporters of Dr. Paul are slowing down. We need to rally ourselves around a new cause, and the problem is, we don't know what that cause is, and we haven't agreed on what it is. That is why I am proposing an operation for Ron Paul to make a national statement. This is completely and totally for the revolution - even while there is a major chance that he may not win, it is certainly better than sitting back and doing nothing, and just whining about the other candidates.

I don't see why people aren't rallying around this idea. Maybe I'm not the best person to try and start a national movement, but then in that case I'd like to request that someone do so. My main purpose for posting is to simply bring up the issue of continuing this revolution by making a strong national statement in the form of writing Ron Paul in. What I am trying to do is unify all the supporters to rally behind ONE cause again. Please tell me if you're in or if you're not?

Catatonic
02-28-2008, 07:19 PM
I don't think anything has slowed down, we're just not as centralized. Everyone came together on these forums because of the primaries. Now most of that is over, people are doing their own thing locally, most likely with a local support base. There's really no reason for me to come here and talk about what we're doing in my precinct anymore.

Ron has set this into motion, its up to us to see it through. Even if we don't win the white house this time around, at the very least we can push more people into Congress to keep reigns on the Hill-bama beast.

99% of Obama's/Hillary's zealots will go back to sleep once the election is over. I don't think you could say the same for us. We'll have most of the clueless weekend warriors out of our way.

Number19
02-28-2008, 07:29 PM
Where did I say in my post that the revolution is over? I fervently believe that it is still in the process of growing.

I'm not saying that the Ron Paul revolution is slowing down, I'm saying that WE as supporters of Dr. Paul are slowing down. We need to rally ourselves around a new cause, and the problem is, we don't know what that cause is, and we haven't agreed on what it is. That is why I am proposing an operation for Ron Paul to make a national statement. This is completely and totally for the revolution - even while there is a major chance that he may not win, it is certainly better than sitting back and doing nothing, and just whining about the other candidates.

I don't see why people aren't rallying around this idea. Maybe I'm not the best person to try and start a national movement, but then in that case I'd like to request that someone do so. My main purpose for posting is to simply bring up the issue of continuing this revolution by making a strong national statement in the form of writing Ron Paul in. What I am trying to do is unify all the supporters to rally behind ONE cause again. Please tell me if you're in or if you're not?IMO, the most promising rallying point on the horizon would be the Washington rally, or rallys. I guess we have two: Granny Warrior's rally and Ron Paul's later rally. Based on past efforts( ie Los Angeles, Austin ) it should be fairly easy to get a couple thousand to make the trip. But it sure would be heartening to have 10 thousand, plus.

torchbearer
02-28-2008, 07:33 PM
think of the revolution as a natural sine wave...
we will have peeks and valleys...
http://radarproblems.com/chapters/ch05.dir/ch05pr.dir/c05p1.dir/sinewave.gif
but we never end.

DAFTEK
02-28-2008, 08:10 PM
lol I'm doing yoga until we get ready to march on DC so i can be mentally stable :D

Jodi's mom
02-28-2008, 09:08 PM
"first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, and then you win."

We've made it past the attack phase, but we haven't won. It is true that we have brought some issues long not heard to the forefront. But at the rate we're going, the revolution is grinding to a halt.

Those of you in states already with primaries over: what are you doing? Taking a break? Sitting back and watching as Clinton and Obama and McCain continually dominate the media, with Ron Paul getting no attention except for the occasional broadcast that he "might" drop out?

I'll admit I've done the same. After the primary for NY was over, I haven't done anything for the Revolution.

While this is not representative of the entire revolution, the activity on these forums has decreased significantly, from around 500 users online per day, to now just around 175. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm not calling anyone out. It's just that before, we had something to aim for. The primaries were a cause for rally.

What is our goal? Is it to somehow, hope for a brokered convention? Is it to continue to attempt to tell our friends and family about Dr. Paul, when they feel that no one really cares about him? Is it to hope that McCain and Huckabee get hospitalized or incapacitated??

Those of you who have brought yourself to wholeheartedly support other Ron Paul candidates, I heartily salute you. But for those of us who have not and still cannot seem to break away from the inspiring Ron Paul as this revolution's leader and spokesperson, each day is more disappointing than the last.

But what if... what if we had a chance. What if we had one... more... chance... to make Dr. Paul president? A rallying cry for all of us to make Dr. Paul our president?

I urge you all, those of you who live in states that have already had primaries, to begin canvassing for a write-in of Ron Paul. I urge all of you to tell all your friends and family and spread the word of a national movement to write in a president for the first time ever. The campaign cannot support this write-in - Dr. Paul needs to stay in the race for his house seat. But they need not. We can do it simply by word of mouth, and begin a national movement to make Dr. Paul president, no matter what the means.

Operation Ron Paul.

See the links in my signature, and tell me what you think.

It's not over until the Fat Lady sings, TwiLeXia!

Please read my thread entitled "RON NEEDS YOUR HELP IN TEXAS!!! NOW!!!" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1313889&posted=1#post1313889)

Then get on the phone and call Robert Morrow for instructions to take Texas!

AFM
02-28-2008, 09:13 PM
IT ISNT OVER
TILL I SAY ITS OVER
FREEEDDOOOMM
AND LIBERTY
AND PORSCHE 911s

kimosabi
02-28-2008, 09:24 PM
Us Ron Paul supporters are still out here. We are Watching, Planning and Regrouping and then we're going start pounding, pounding, pounding...

chowdy
02-28-2008, 09:31 PM
who says liberty is quick and easy?

Jodi's mom
02-28-2008, 09:56 PM
HAVE YOU CALLED ROBERT MORROW, YET??!! DO IT NOW! 512-306-1510 or email him at morrow@aol.com or morrow321@fastmail.fm


He's waiting for your call and emails! STOP MCCAIN IN TEXAS!!!!

jjank11
02-28-2008, 10:05 PM
Don't give into the "i want it now" ideology.

This fight will continue for years to come. Ron Paul is our Ghandi, he is our Martin Luther King Jr.

We are just getting started in Texas. I'm going out this weekend to get Ron Pauls name recognized alittle more.

Look you have to realize that the likes of McCain, Clinton and Obama have been in the MSM as frontrunners for Presidency for 3 or 4 years. We are doing this in almost 1 year with zero to very little MSM support. I think it has come a long way!! There are still many states left to vote and many conventions to select delegates. Our fight is not over for 2008 and the message will never be over as long as the USA and the constitution exist!!!

FIGHT ON REVOLUTIONARIES!!!!

TwiLeXia
02-29-2008, 08:44 PM
I closed the site down. I don't understand why people think I am giving up. I am trying to ask for your support in starting a movement to write-in Dr. Paul, yet no one seems to want that. Why??

stilltrying
02-29-2008, 09:04 PM
I will write in RP whether it counts or not. Getting people like sabrin and the NC Lawson would be a huge help as well. Even if RP doesnt get elected to the presidency, as long as he holds onto his house seat and Sabrin and Lawson get in then that is a great start. It will be a long and tough battle but I believe everyone in these forums knows this and is willing to spread the word which is where it is really at anyways. I personally do not like to admit defeat (hard headed) as I hate losing and therefore I do not believe that RP has lost yet. There is still much time before the election and wait and see, people will be slopping more mud later than there is now. I Belive that we have just started to see the mudslinging, and with time some of it may show criminal conduct on McPain as Im sure he is a criminal just not caught yet. If so this would force him out and then what happens. So fellow RPers keep spreading the word to friends and family and if they follow tell them to do the same, tell them about candidates in other states that have RPs endorsement.

FrankRep
02-29-2008, 09:06 PM
The Revolution isn't slowing, we are focusing on local activism. Maybe the Internet activism is slowing down, which is good because people need to be outside more.

Cowlesy
02-29-2008, 09:07 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=125272