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bradmonteath
02-26-2008, 11:02 AM
Ron Paul opened the eyes of the sleepy masses. His job is done. RP's campaign was an informational campaign, not a presidential campaign. Those who thought otherwise are feeling the letdown. RP said he never expected to get this far. He never expected that a fund raiser would drop millions on his campaign & frankly, he doesn't know what to do with it.

RP wanted to change thinking in the GOP; that's all. If he really wanted to revolt against the current system, he could use the $6million to legally challenge the IRS's authority to collect taxes. Don't hold your breath.

Ron Paul is not going to do anything different than he has been doing since he started. He wants his congressional seat back--that's all.

Ron Paul is an economist. He's not a politician & he's certainly not a revolutionary. There is no revolution.

A revolution is...
-getting in the face of your oppressor and saying, "No more!"
-sending in signed blank tax returns to the IRS
-legally challenging the Patriot Act
-going to court to reopen ground zero for a proper investigation
-finding those who knowing changed their routines on 9/11 and holding them legally responsible as co-conspirators
-getting access to information as to who did not send out interceptors to the planes approaching the towers and why
-marching into congress and demanding that they impeach Bush & Cheney
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

THAT IS A REVOLUTION!!!!
If you want a revolution, you're going to have to leave RP behind. He has made it clear he wants no part of this. Stop giving him money and find a new leader--someone who knows the law & is willing to do what it takes to expose the truth. The foot soldiers are here, but without the right leader, the revolt ends here. The tyranny began at 9/11. Where it ends is up to you.

pinkmandy
02-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Hi Kathy's brother? Abandon RP? Um, sure.

WilliamC
02-26-2008, 12:32 PM
I agree that we need to find and develop new leaders.

I disagree that Ron Paul's role in this is over.

jason43
02-26-2008, 01:03 PM
Jesse Ventura's book cover says it all. (http://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/details.php?TitleID=144)

He has the qualifications as governor and has the celebrity to get into the press. He should be at/near the top of the list for alternative candidates for president. We should at least get him to put forward a platform and test the waters.

jason43
02-26-2008, 01:05 PM
And no, Ron's roll is not over. He is what made this all happen.

Luft97
02-26-2008, 01:05 PM
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

Why would we want to validate the UN as some kind of authority by going to them?

terryhamel
02-27-2008, 07:44 AM
Ron's job is not done as is anyone who loves liberty. "The price of freedom is ETERNAL vigilance", so says Thomas Jefferson. He didn't say "The price of freedom is only until someone who just joined the forum a few days ago says you're done."

RP never expected to get this far because he didn't think there were enough people who loved liberty and willing to be vigilant against it's oppressors. We proved him wrong, but that doesn't include you, apparently.

RP wants to win the presidency, not just help the GOP find it's way again. He's done quite well where it matters in spite of going against the status quo, media blackout and smears. That you can't recognize his tactic is indicative of your knowledge or commitment to the message.

Be prepared for a verbal caning. You might want to take a hiatus from the forums.

pinkmandy
02-27-2008, 11:04 AM
Ron Paul opened the eyes of the sleepy masses. His job is done. RP's campaign was an informational campaign, not a presidential campaign. Those who thought otherwise are feeling the letdown. RP said he never expected to get this far. He never expected that a fund raiser would drop millions on his campaign & frankly, he doesn't know what to do with it.

RP wanted to change thinking in the GOP; that's all. If he really wanted to revolt against the current system, he could use the $6million to legally challenge the IRS's authority to collect taxes. Don't hold your breath.

Ron Paul is not going to do anything different than he has been doing since he started. He wants his congressional seat back--that's all.

Ron Paul is an economist. He's not a politician & he's certainly not a revolutionary. There is no revolution.

A revolution is...
-getting in the face of your oppressor and saying, "No more!"
-sending in signed blank tax returns to the IRS
-legally challenging the Patriot Act
-going to court to reopen ground zero for a proper investigation
-finding those who knowing changed their routines on 9/11 and holding them legally responsible as co-conspirators
-getting access to information as to who did not send out interceptors to the planes approaching the towers and why
-marching into congress and demanding that they impeach Bush & Cheney
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

THAT IS A REVOLUTION!!!!
If you want a revolution, you're going to have to leave RP behind. He has made it clear he wants no part of this. Stop giving him money and find a new leader--someone who knows the law & is willing to do what it takes to expose the truth. The foot soldiers are here, but without the right leader, the revolt ends here. The tyranny began at 9/11. Where it ends is up to you.

You must really like your words as you pasted them into this thread, too: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=116966

Most interesting.

Richie
02-27-2008, 11:28 AM
We should not "leave Ron Paul behind," and he's very much a part of this revolution. I do, however, think we should work to draft Bob Barr for the Libertarian nomination. See the link in my signature.

Revolution9
02-27-2008, 02:27 PM
Ron Paul opened the eyes of the sleepy masses. His job is done. RP's campaign was an informational campaign, not a presidential campaign. Those who thought otherwise are feeling the letdown. RP said he never expected to get this far. He never expected that a fund raiser would drop millions on his campaign & frankly, he doesn't know what to do with it.

RP wanted to change thinking in the GOP; that's all. If he really wanted to revolt against the current system, he could use the $6million to legally challenge the IRS's authority to collect taxes. Don't hold your breath.

Ron Paul is not going to do anything different than he has been doing since he started. He wants his congressional seat back--that's all.

Ron Paul is an economist. He's not a politician & he's certainly not a revolutionary. There is no revolution.

A revolution is...
-getting in the face of your oppressor and saying, "No more!"
-sending in signed blank tax returns to the IRS
-legally challenging the Patriot Act
-going to court to reopen ground zero for a proper investigation
-finding those who knowing changed their routines on 9/11 and holding them legally responsible as co-conspirators
-getting access to information as to who did not send out interceptors to the planes approaching the towers and why
-marching into congress and demanding that they impeach Bush & Cheney
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

THAT IS A REVOLUTION!!!!
If you want a revolution, you're going to have to leave RP behind. He has made it clear he wants no part of this. Stop giving him money and find a new leader--someone who knows the law & is willing to do what it takes to expose the truth. The foot soldiers are here, but without the right leader, the revolt ends here. The tyranny began at 9/11. Where it ends is up to you.

What a load of prevaricating hogwash. Always with the new gambits. I suppose your esteemed ass is gonna lead us straight into the jackboot truncheons. You smell funny to boot. I am calling you out on your bullshit and yet another fear, uncertainty and doubt pile of miasmatic tripe that passes itself off as cogent analysis. Problem with your op shortstop is that you have arrayed against you more IQ than an entire gaggle of you clowns can muster. Betcha don't make t very far with this anfractuous codswallop and balderdash.

Randy

Revolution9
02-27-2008, 02:33 PM
Why would we want to validate the UN as some kind of authority by going to them?

Fucking aye! Let our Gold Badges arrest them. This one statement places him squarely in the provocateur camp running a fear, uncertainty and doubt op. Since his grasp of this piece of informaton is tenuous at best it indicates he does not understand what is going on with this R3volution and is simply another in a long line of coattail riders or ops gambt runners with no particular grasp of Sovereigty, rule of law, or historical momentum gathering of grand movements of the public commons. He would prefer we submit to some yet unnamed authority honcho who will then commandeer the R3volutionaries straight into an on the ground confrontation with the jackboots truncheons, chemical sprays and jail cells.. Word up to the OP-->. We were not built to follow anybody. Piss up a rope.

HTH
Randy

kaleidoscope eyes
02-27-2008, 02:35 PM
Of course we need to find MORE leaders in Ron's mold, but why replace? There's no need.

nice try tho.

brandon
02-27-2008, 02:46 PM
The tyranny began at 9/11.


Hah, your dreaming buddy. This tyranny has pervaded all of human history. It has been on the increase in america for the last century. The 60's had MKUltra and COINTELPRO, but you think the tyranny just started on 9/11. You couldn't make your naive view of the world any more apparent. 9/11 is only the latest excuse for a long chain of stifling our liberties.

Oh and Ron's roll in this is hardly over. Although I do agree we need more people to step up to the plate and become leaders.

bradmonteath
02-27-2008, 07:55 PM
No one would compare the USA to Nazi Germany in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's or even the 90's. That is why I say tyranny began at 9/11.

When people are in an agitated state, they are easier to manipulate because they are motivated to return to a state of calm. Once panic is instilled in people as 9/11 was, consider what Bush got people in America to do to restore calm. The War on Terror, The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Guantanamo Bay--we might as well be living in Nazi Germany.

People have taken my suggestion to leave RP behind like I was asking people to throw him out of a moving car. I am not suggesting we kick RP out or anything like that. He is the Founding Father of this movement and will always be.

However, that does not change the fact that the Bush Administration has turned USA into Nazi Germany 2008. RP has no feasible plan to deal with this tyranny. Marches are protests that will not change the current regime's approach. RP will not win the GOP primary and may not even retain his congressional seat.

People have reacted with strong emotion to my suggestion of finding a new leader that truly understands what a revolution is and knows how to inspire, mobilize, and overthrow the status quo. Ron Paul cannot and will not be that revolutionary. When RP turned his back on the 9/11 truthers, he showed his true colors--he was not willing to go to the scene of the crime that enabled The War on Terror, The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, & Guantanamo Bay. We need someone who will fight for that and take down this criminal regime.

If all you want is to do is discuss the issues and be intellectually satisfied that your political point of view is more correct than George Bush's, then by all means, continue as you are until you are chipped and assimilated into this "Matrix" from hell. However , if you want action to follow the words of Ron Paul, you will need someone else to do that.

If you are serious about starting a revolution to save what is left of this democracy, please go back to my original post and reconsider the words I wrote. Emotionalism will not win this war on tyranny.

therealjjj77
02-27-2008, 07:59 PM
Ron Paul opened the eyes of the sleepy masses. His job is done. RP's campaign was an informational campaign, not a presidential campaign. Those who thought otherwise are feeling the letdown. RP said he never expected to get this far. He never expected that a fund raiser would drop millions on his campaign & frankly, he doesn't know what to do with it.

RP wanted to change thinking in the GOP; that's all. If he really wanted to revolt against the current system, he could use the $6million to legally challenge the IRS's authority to collect taxes. Don't hold your breath.

Ron Paul is not going to do anything different than he has been doing since he started. He wants his congressional seat back--that's all.

Ron Paul is an economist. He's not a politician & he's certainly not a revolutionary. There is no revolution.

A revolution is...
-getting in the face of your oppressor and saying, "No more!"
-sending in signed blank tax returns to the IRS
-legally challenging the Patriot Act
-going to court to reopen ground zero for a proper investigation
-finding those who knowing changed their routines on 9/11 and holding them legally responsible as co-conspirators
-getting access to information as to who did not send out interceptors to the planes approaching the towers and why
-marching into congress and demanding that they impeach Bush & Cheney
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

THAT IS A REVOLUTION!!!!
If you want a revolution, you're going to have to leave RP behind. He has made it clear he wants no part of this. Stop giving him money and find a new leader--someone who knows the law & is willing to do what it takes to expose the truth. The foot soldiers are here, but without the right leader, the revolt ends here. The tyranny began at 9/11. Where it ends is up to you.

His campaign isn't done. Everyone who is willing to go all the way to the national convention understand this. We have got to make it there and take the majority of the votes. Those are the votes that count. No candidate has been decided yet. So we still have work to do, those who are delegates or on their way to becoming one.

Also, the tyranny began back in 1868 and again perpetuated in 1913. I want an America of freedom. Not an America with a terrorist regime in the White House.