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gtjwkq
08-15-2007, 11:26 AM
Small and medium-sized business owners should logically be very interested in Ron Paul's financial policies: no more income tax, sound money, free market economics, etc.

They're also capable of donating larger amounts than employed or self-employed professionals, and can rally the support of employees.

Most businesses are burdened by the income tax, imagine not having to pay for it anymore! I think this is RP's strongest selling point. Businesspeople and investors have more interest and knowledge of economy and economic policy than the average american.

Ron Paul's message of freedom requires intellect and an open mind. Unfortunately, most people are too absorbed in self-interest to inform themselves or even care.

So let's focus specifically on business owners and associations. They should be our priority when making phone calls, or door-to-door visits. By emphasizing Ron Paul's financial policies, we can more accurately appeal to their self-interest.
Where can we get address/phone lists of small and medium-sized business owners?
What business associations or meeting events in your area would be willing to accept delivery of the purely financial aspect of RP's message?
Remember, donations to Ron Paul's campaign are tax deductible, he will "deduct" the IRS if he gets elected, LOL! (some one in the forum said that, hilarious)

EDIT: Jennifer Reynolds (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1963) points out that a major issue are Sarbanes-Oxley regulations (especially section 404) that burden small businesses in America. Ron Paul tried to repeal it (http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr041405.htm). There's a very informative article about it on LewRockwell.com (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/haman2.html).

ghemminger
08-15-2007, 11:28 AM
I think this is a great idea...Let's not forget they can also post banners and signs!

I have one member of our meetup who put up 5 permanaent banners this way!

I will talk to our meetup about this new strategy!

david.griffus
08-15-2007, 11:28 AM
Donations to RP's campaign are NOT tax deductible, bud. www.ronpaul2008.com/donate

Sematary
08-15-2007, 11:30 AM
Small and medium-sized business owners should logically be very interested in Ron Paul's financial policies: no more income tax, sound money, free market economics, etc.

They're also capable of donating larger amounts than employed or self-employed professionals, and can rally the support of employees.

Most businesses are burdened by the income tax, imagine not having to pay for it anymore! I think this is RP's strongest selling point. Businesspeople and investors have more interest and knowledge of economy and economic policy than the average american.

Ron Paul's message of freedom requires intellect and an open mind. Unfortunately, most people are too absorbed in self-interest to inform themselves or even care.

So let's focus specifically on business owners and associations. They should be our priority when making phone calls, or door-to-door visits. By emphasizing Ron Paul's financial policies, we can more accurately appeal to their self-interest.
Where can we get address/phone lists of small and medium-sized business owners?
What business associations or meeting events in your area would be willing to accept delivery of the purely financial aspect of RP's message?
Remember, donations to Ron Paul's campaign are tax deductible, he will "deduct" the IRS if he gets elected, LOL! (some one in the forum said that, hilarious)

You are quite correct. That is why my boss (the owner) is voting for him and I know of another business owner who is going to vote for him specifically because of his stance on the income tax.

Mort
08-15-2007, 11:34 AM
Small and medium-sized business owners should logically be very interested in Ron Paul's financial policies: no more income tax, sound money, free market economics, etc.

They're also capable of donating larger amounts than employed or self-employed professionals, and can rally the support of employees.

Most businesses are burdened by the income tax, imagine not having to pay for it anymore! I think this is RP's strongest selling point. Businesspeople and investors have more interest and knowledge of economy and economic policy than the average american.

Ron Paul's message of freedom requires intellect and an open mind. Unfortunately, most people are too absorbed in self-interest to inform themselves or even care.

So let's focus specifically on business owners and associations. They should be our priority when making phone calls, or door-to-door visits. By emphasizing Ron Paul's financial policies, we can more accurately appeal to their self-interest.
Where can we get address/phone lists of small and medium-sized business owners?
What business associations or meeting events in your area would be willing to accept delivery of the purely financial aspect of RP's message?
Remember, donations to Ron Paul's campaign are tax deductible, he will "deduct" the IRS if he gets elected, LOL! (some one in the forum said that, hilarious)


As far as I know Ron Paul is not against business income taxes. He is only against personal income taxes.

ARealConservative
08-15-2007, 11:40 AM
As far as I know Ron Paul is not against business income taxes. He is only against personal income taxes.

He essentially opposed involuntary taxes.

Employers match a portion of an employees payroll taxes. Paull certainly opposed that.

jasonhlasvegas
08-15-2007, 11:44 AM
As a small-business owner myself I whole-heartedly agree. This is a superb idea. I am ashamed to admit it is one I didn't think of before. I will foward this to my meetup group.

Lord Xar
08-15-2007, 11:53 AM
Ok, so we have some business owners who support Ron Paul..

OK, NOW..

IF YOU GOT A POSTCARD... What would you want on it, to sway you for Ron Paul.

You understand... as a business owner..... tell me what about Ron Paul is good about your business.... put this on a postcard and do mailers..

JaylieWoW
08-15-2007, 11:58 AM
Small and medium-sized business owners should logically be very interested in Ron Paul's financial policies: no more income tax, sound money, free market economics, etc.

They're also capable of donating larger amounts than employed or self-employed professionals, and can rally the support of employees.

Most businesses are burdened by the income tax, imagine not having to pay for it anymore! I think this is RP's strongest selling point. Businesspeople and investors have more interest and knowledge of economy and economic policy than the average american.

Ron Paul's message of freedom requires intellect and an open mind. Unfortunately, most people are too absorbed in self-interest to inform themselves or even care.

So let's focus specifically on business owners and associations. They should be our priority when making phone calls, or door-to-door visits. By emphasizing Ron Paul's financial policies, we can more accurately appeal to their self-interest.
Where can we get address/phone lists of small and medium-sized business owners?
What business associations or meeting events in your area would be willing to accept delivery of the purely financial aspect of RP's message?
Remember, donations to Ron Paul's campaign are tax deductible, he will "deduct" the IRS if he gets elected, LOL! (some one in the forum said that, hilarious)

I have something to add to this and I think you ARE onto something here.

The other day, someone from some sort of political entity (Write your Congressman or some such thing) was here speaking to the owner of my company. They discussed the "issues" most important to him. His answers were:

1. Get out of Iraq and mind our own business, we've got far too much falling apart on the homeland to be attempting to tell other countries how to act and what to do.

2. I WANT TO SEE TAX REFORM WITHIN MY LIFETIME!! (emphasis was his not mine). He further went on to illustrate the unfairness with big corps receiving massive tax breaks and subsidies while the little business owner had to work their butts off just to be able to keep 50% of their OWN profit.

They discussed some other issues, but these 2 issues were numero uno for him!

Yeah, I'd say small business owners have a whole lot of reasons to support Ron Paul, and they don't even know it.

JaylieWoW
08-15-2007, 12:01 PM
As far as I know Ron Paul is not against business income taxes. He is only against personal income taxes.

The thing that is important is the unfairness in the system (see my above post) where big businesses get all kinds of breaks and largess from the government while the little guys get squat (on)!

That should be the focus for speaking with small business owners however, the abolishment of the IRS will be very important for them as well since their income is not only affected by massive taxation on profit for their business but then again taxed when they write their own paychecks (double taxation for the same labor produced).

mavtek
08-15-2007, 12:03 PM
Funny I posted something very similar to this regarding shirt.woot.com and no one hardly listened to me.

McDermit
08-15-2007, 02:56 PM
The thing that is important is the unfairness in the system (see my above post) where big businesses get all kinds of breaks and largess from the government while the little guys get squat (on)!

That should be the focus for speaking with small business owners however, the abolishment of the IRS will be very important for them as well since their income is not only affected by massive taxation on profit for their business but then again taxed when they write their own paychecks (double taxation for the same labor produced).

not to mention the self employment tax for those that aren't incorporated.

Jennifer Reynolds
08-15-2007, 03:21 PM
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08-15-2007, 03:23 PM
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gtjwkq
08-15-2007, 05:38 PM
Focus on Sarbanes-Oxley. Ron Paul wants to repeal it. It is the number one issue with all public business owners.
That was a very educational article, including Congressman Ron Paul's speech to repeal Sarbanes-Oxley, which makes his position very clear on this.

It's understandable if you brought this up before and were ignored. If more of our supporters were business owners themselves, they would also hold this issue in high regard.

Nefertiti
08-21-2007, 06:10 PM
We small business owners pay the entire 15% Social Security contribution ourselves. We might want to get rid of Social Security, although I'm not sure what private options we would have either.

Scribbler de Stebbing
08-21-2007, 06:45 PM
I love small business owners. This country would be a socialist wasteland without them. A month ago, I wrote this letter/analysis of Ron Paul supporters to a friend/talk show host/not-yet Ron Paul supporter:


Why do a disproportionate number of entrepreneurs support Ron Paul? Because entrepreneurs, the successful ones, are used to hearing -- and more importantly, ignoring -- the advice that "it can't be done."

How do I know that hordes of entrepreneurs are among the fervent Ron Paul supporters? Anecdotally, to be honest. Large groups of us meet in the Twin Cities at least twice monthly, each of us spending hours a week of our own time and hundreds of dollars of our own money to promote Ron Paul. We're banded together as so many Davids against the government/MSM Goliath.

Two weeks ago forty of us got up at 6 a.m. and carpooled down to Iowa to join over a thousand fellow supporters for the Ron Paul Blowback rally. (Seen here.)

In our lengthy, even obsessive, conversations at meetings, by phone and online, a good half of these fellow supporters mention their small business in passing. This comes as no surprise. Small business owners are risk-takers; they are individualists; they want no boss above their own self; they don't listen to the advice that "it can't be done." They are the backbone of this nation, interestingly, as they are the only ones left with backbone.

Jennifer Reynolds
08-21-2007, 08:23 PM
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