I can't believe what I just saw

[AJ Antimony]

Sorry if this has been posted.

Just now while watching 60 minutes I saw a commercial in support of the surveillance act in Congress. It said the Senate approved the act and that the House was preventing it from passing. Then it showed a picture of one of my state's Congressmen saying something like contact your "contact your Congressmen and tell them to pass this act so we can watch the terrorists and protect this country."

Maybe it's just me but I've never seen a commercial like that in my life. I think the bottom of the screen said something like "Paid for by ...... Democracies."

Really scared the hell out of me.

EDIT:

HR 3773 according to the ad

Please add this info to the OP so people don't have to fish thru the thread to find it.

It was also called S. 2248 in the Senate


AJ,
Please put reference to this petition in your original post.

Here's the thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124062

Here's the RP petition site.
www.standandunite.com

[sgrooms]

yeah i saw one here in arizona attacking our local congressman, rep. mitchell

[nate895]

On the RNC site, they have a ticker for "overtime" to pass the bill, I hope it keeps ticking until President Ron Paul tells them to take it down.

[The One]

Do the opposite....contact your congressman and tell him he better damn-well not support it.

[r3volution]

seen it here in PA also ....

[AJ Antimony]

Do you all agree it was a real creepy commercial?

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Youtube?

[berrybunches]

We all have to email our congressmen now and tell them they must not pass this bill.
We should email every one in our states or as many as we can.

Sucks my congressman happens to be the house republican leader Beohner.
Have a feeling I'm not going to convince him.

[AJ Antimony]

Youtube?

Not yet, I couldn't find it.

[Verad]

Do we know the exact name of the bill, or its number in Congress? I'd like to write to my congressman, but I need more information first.

[Jeremy]

was it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDg19STeVqs

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

was it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDg19STeVqs

That is so creepy... Very Orwellian.

[slamhead]

Lets find out who is paying for this. It is probably some lobbyist from the military industrial complex.

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Lets find out who is paying for this.

The GOP.

[AJ Antimony]

was it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDg19STeVqs

No, it wasn't that.

[rg123]

I seen one too they are playing coast to coast. All 3 branches of government are completely out of control.

[AdamT]

Where are they getting the money to pay to air coast to coast. That must cost a fortune!

[Myerz]

You Tube?

[Crowish]

Viewers in Alabama got that ad, it sounds like, during 60 Minutes, & parts of the broadcast were "accidentally" conveniently blacked out.
tp://www.atlargely.com/don_siegelman/index.html

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Blimp!!!

[AJ Antimony]

Viewers in Alabama got that ad, it sounds like, during 60 Minutes, & parts of the broadcast were "accidentally" conveniently blacked out.
tp://www.atlargely.com/don_siegelman/index.html

Interesting

[Charles Wilson]

This is Big Brother 2008.

I have two movies --- "1984" and "Brave New World". 1984 reminds me of the current Republican leaders that are hell bent on a totalitarian government. Brave New World reminds me of the Democrats that believe in a utopian Socialist State.

Unfortunately, I have no doubt that liberal and neocon fascist's are firmly in control of this country. If we cannot stop this madness at the ballot box then we will have to face the unthinkable in the near future to secure our freedom. God help us.

[NEPA_Revolution]

Its getting rediculous already. This is full blown government funded propaganda. I dont know what we are headed to next, but after this election the shit is sure going to hit the fan unless we get RP into office or alot of RP Republicans into Congress and the Senate.

[apc3161]

Send your congressperson a letter saying you disapprove.

[AJ Antimony]

Its getting rediculous already. This is full blown government funded propaganda. I dont know what we are headed to next, but after this election the shit is sure going to hit the fan unless we get RP into office or alot of RP Republicans into Congress and the Senate.

And you're probably saying this ignoring Iraq and its similarities to Vietnam. What I'm referring to is the aftermath. What happened after the war ended? The economy turned horrible and was a trademark of the 1970s. We can already begin to see that the decade after Iraq will be another period of a bad economy. And with a government feeding on fear, we're going to see government intrusion like no other. Imagine the New Deal but written by neocons.

[doomer]

it might have something to do with this?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/parts-of-60-minutes-bro_b_88218.html


(you might wanna double up the foil on ur hat!!)

[Lord Xar]

Who is paying for this? The GOP.

You sure?

I would seriously like to know WHO is paying for this, really.

This has to be a PAC or somesuch, NOT the GOP. I do NOT think the GOP would do this as they have no money to do this kinda of promotion.

Lets find out exactly who is behind these commercials. Perhaps then, we can find out what the true agenda is or who is behind it.

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS RUNNING THIS!!

[RSLudlum]

Probably a Telecom lobbyist group pushing the ads??

[Highstreet]

Anyone seen a youtube yet?

[nate895]

You sure?

I would seriously like to know WHO is paying for this, really.

This has to be a PAC or somesuch, NOT the GOP. I do NOT think the GOP would do this as they have no money to do this kinda of promotion.

Lets find out exactly who is behind these commercials. Perhaps then, we can find out what the true agenda is or who is behind it.

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS RUNNING THIS!!

The GOP has tons of cash.

[AJ Antimony]

it might have something to do with this?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/parts-of-60-minutes-bro_b_88218.html


(you might wanna double up the foil on ur hat!!)

Yes, the FISA ad that I saw was mentioned in that article.

[Highstreet]

Here's the Siegelman clip that was blacked out.

Involves Rove, no surprise:
h ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml

[NeoRayden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWIn-S6W5pg

[Drea]

This one?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2hqFMh6TVM

[NeoRayden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTTNe4Uyug

[AJ Antimony]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWIn-S6W5pg

That wasn't it.

EDIT: Here it is, just posted on Youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2hqFMh6TVM
This is the general one because the one I saw mentioned a specific Congressman where on this one it lists the phone number of the House.

"PAID FOR BY DEFENSE OF DEMOCRACIES"

[Drea]

Paid for by Defense of Democracies

WTF??

[Highstreet]

HR 3773 according to the ad

Please add this info to the OP so people don't have to fish thru the thread to find it.

It was also called S. 2248 in the Senate

[Drea]

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

[Drea]

look at the list of names there.

Amazing. Amazing.

[nate895]

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

Bill Kristol on the board of anything automatically puts it on the negative list.

[AJ Antimony]

This one?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2hqFMh6TVM

Yes, this is it. I'm sorry I somehow didn't see your post.

[AJ Antimony]

look at the list of names there.

Amazing. Amazing.

Jack Kemp... one of McCain's puppeteers who he has named many times, one of which was an answer that had absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. :D

[Drea]

Here is something even more interesting...

"They" joined youtube 2 days ago and posted their ad there...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fTTTNe4Uyug&feature=related


I'm still shaking my head over the list of names.

[gb13]

Damn. That is fucking scary shit.

[syborius]

Gotta love all those advisors...the who's who of socialist-neocon-zionists.

[DFF]

I just contacted my Representative in TX District 2, Ted Poe and told him I was against passing the bill. :)

[Charles Wilson]

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

If push comes to shove we know who the enemy is; the enemy is not us.

I hope and pray that those in power will not act to consolidate their power this year. The next President and administration may be able to reverse this trend toward a totalitarian State. Unfortunately John McCain is one of the Fascist's who is behind this attempt to enslave us. Therefore I am afraid that if he gets elected, we are doomed to a lot of blood letting and chaos in the near future.

I do not have a crystal ball but that seems to be a logical conclusion if things continue on like they are today..

[sgrooms]

Sucks my congressman happens to be the house republican leader Beohner.
Have a feeling I'm not going to convince him.

then pretend youre from my district and call my congressman

[AlabamaWildMan]

was it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDg19STeVqs

I thought it to be even MORE eerie with HIllary's mugg being used on a Johnny McLame Political Ad... :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/Alabama_Wild_Man/87a44e07.jpg?t=1203954866



... Truth is Stranger than Fishin' ...

[Daveforliberty]

look at the list of names there.

Amazing. Amazing.

Behold, the list of traitors. The antithesis of the signers of the declaration of independence.

And in the ad... "to keep us all (pause for effect) SAFE." Give us your liberty, and we'll keep you safe. Ben Franklin spins in his grave. Positively Orwellian.

For God's sake, wake up, America.

[A Ron Paul Rebel]

I've been waiting for this list of evil-doers!

[AlabamaWildMan]

Here's the Siegelman clip that was blacked out.

Involves Rove, no surprise:
h ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml

Well....I'm from 'Bama....this is just strange, to say the least.
...never liked Siegelman. He was too much like the ex-governor of Tennessee Don Sunquist (aka: Tax-n-SpendQuist).

The citizens of The Heart-of-Dixie had a good chance at a Good man for their governor in (ex-Judge) Roy Moore and they voted in that loser Riley....

Siegelman may not deserve what he got for this particular case....but he needed a good kick-in-the-backside for many other things he did....


...but...that's just my opinion....

[slamhead]

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

Need to find out where this PAC got its money. Don't they have to file disclosure forms? Who are the donors?

[malkusm]

YouTube: "This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request."

Can anyone help with this?

[slamhead]

Administrative Contact :
Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
info@defenddemocracy.org
1020 19th Street NW
Suite 340
Washington, DC 20036
US
Phone: 202-207-0190
Fax: 202-207-0191


http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=306907

[IRO-bot]

I find the worst part is that they portray the bill as spying overseas when in Reality it is spying domesticly.

[HollyforRP]

(edit)

[A Ron Paul Rebel]

A new petition against this was just created at
www.standandunite.com

Here's the thread.
Help keep it bumped please.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124062

And take 2 minutes to sign the petition at www.standandunite.com

[SgtBulldog]

I know these people. They tried to buy one of my Iraq photos that showed a crowd of happy Iraqi's for one of their neo-con commercials. I declined, of course. Make no mistake, they are a dangerous group.

[CurtisLow]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/732/zzzzzzyx3.jpg

I like how you can't leave any comments on the video.
Call the number and tell them NO!

[CurtisLow]

Make no mistake, they are a dangerous group.

Sometimes I really think I know who the real terrorists are... :mad:

[unklejman]

YouTube: "This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request."

Can anyone help with this?

Try this http://www.youtube.infamousx.com/

If that doesn't work try www.keepvid.com and use a flv player to watch. (free just do a google search)

[AJ Antimony]

Bump, I added A RP Rebels stuff to the OP

[Lord Xar]

Gotta love all those advisors...the who's who of socialist-neocon-zionists.

yup. sickening isn't it. new world order, here we come.

I wonder how many of them are part of the CFR, or Various global groups.

[Cleaner44]

yeah i saw one here in arizona attacking our local congressman, rep. mitchell

I saw it this morning too.

[tangent4ronpaul]

2 of the YouTube links posted earlier in this thread have been pulled.

That probably has something to do with them posting it themselves and not allowing comments.

-n

[dfalken]

I emailed my congresswoman to vote against the bill the same day I learned about it during the state of the union address.

[devil21]

"Tell the House to do its job"? Call me crazy but the House's job isn't to just sign off on anything and everything the Senate passes. That's part of the checks and balances of the legislative branch.

[TheEvilDetector]

Here's the Siegelman clip that was blacked out.

Involves Rove, no surprise:
h ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml

http://rawstory.com/images/other/siegelmanmap.jpg

[Acidlump]

Private Video???

[Smiley Gladhands]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fTTTNe4Uyug&feature=related

[Live Free or Die]

I saw this ad in NH yesterday, it urged viewers to contact a local rep (Shea-Porter). The Union leader just wrote about it:
http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=TV+ad+campaign+takes+aim+at+ Shea-Porter&articleId=07f521c4-de63-449b-9f83-7c4e62532bfa

[kigol]

:eek:

[Highstreet]

Need to find out where this PAC got its money. Don't they have to file disclosure forms? Who are the donors?

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about_FDD/about_FDD_show.htm?doc_id=156817&attrib_id=7615

Who funds FDD?
FDD is funded by a diverse group of individual philanthropists and foundations. FDD has also received government grants from the U.S. State Department.

I think their claim for Non-profit helps them keep the info private. I am wondering how they get funding from the State Dept legally.

And SourceWatch doesn't have any funding sources, but there is other interesting info:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Foundation_for_the_Defense_of_Demo cracies

-=================
Here's some other info they have on their site:


Shaping the Media

FDD spokespeople appear in national, international, and Arabic-language media outlets on average seven times a day, seven days a week to deliver powerful, effective messages about the need to fight terrorism and promote democratic values.

Winning the War of Ideas Internationally

Building on our numerous European activities launched in February 2004, FDD's reach is now being expanded in Europe through a partnership with the European Foundation for Democracy, an anti-terrorism, pro-democracy think tank and advocacy group headquartered in Brussels, as well through relationships with similar organizations in Brussels, Paris, London, Berlin and other European capitals.

Training Campus Anti-Terrorism Advocates

At a time when college campuses are under the sway of apologists for terrorism, FDD has trained hundreds of professors and students as pro-democracy, anti-terrorism advocates and activists. A key part of the training is an intensive fellowship program in Israel and Washington, D.C., examining how democracies defend themselves from terrorism. We also run a separate U.S.-based program that trains professors in how to teach about terrorism. As a result of our training, professors have launched new courses on terrorism and students have held hundreds of on-campus events and registered hundreds of media appearances. FDD students have gone on to jobs in the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, the State Department, the military, the Peace Corps, and the White House and have won Fulbright and Truman scholarships to continue their studies.
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Scary stuff.................These people are organized. We need to get moving on all fronts.

[Brother Butch]

That's gross and disgusting. Unfortunately a lot of people will freak out and call for it.

[Crowish]

Frustrated by Democrats’ refusal to bring a Senate-passed update of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to the floor, House Republicans tried Tuesday to force a vote on the bill.

Republicans tried to force a vote on a procedural maneuver to bring up the Senate bill, but the measure failed 212-198.

Instead, Democrats have begun conferencing both House passed and Senate passed versions of the FISA update—although the House version does not contain retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies, a key sticking point.

Republicans have boycotted the talks, instead insisting the House vote on the Senate bill, which received 68 votes in the Senate and would likely have the blessing of the White House. House Democratic leaders have insisted they will not be bullied into accepting the Senate bill, despite the heated rhetoric coming from the White House and congressional Republicans on the issue.

“Every day that the House Democratic leadership delays, we are losing valuable information about terrorists’ plans,” said House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) in a statement before the vote.

“That is wrong and dangerous, and I welcome any Democratic member who agrees to vote with us.”

Republicans have vowed to use any procedural resolution this week-regardless of topic to try and force the vote, which has angered Democrats.

“This is more political theater by the Republicans,” said Stacy Farnen Bernards, a spokesman for House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.). “The American people expect them to instead work with Democrats towards a solution.”