John Birch Society:

[Patriot123]

Now I'm sure we've all heard of this, "John Birch Society." Right? About how it's planning to... "Take over the world?" Information courtesy of yours truly; Alex Jones. But has anyone ever taken the time to actually LOOK at the website? Please, do. Go right ahead :)

http://www.jbs.org/

Alex Jones is the biggest nut there is. We should be rallying with this organization. This organization is one of the most prestigious organizations fighting to preserve liberty in this country, and I'll be damned if some lune like Alex Jones is going to bad mouth an organization such as this one. And you know what? I'm becoming a member. And I'll be damned if everyone who views this topic does not join as well. This is a truly unique and great society, and I'm amazed how a lune like Alex Jones would actually accuse the organization that's trying to fight for liberty and freedom in this country of trying to start some "world government."

Please. View the website, take a look, and for hells sake, join. They essentially support everything the good doctor stands for. They even PRAISE him in their articles.

[Wineman77]

The number one issue to the Birch camp is "stop the NAU". These people are one of our biggest allies in this struggle.

[Archie]

AJ has always Had an axe to grind with them {although he says he doesnt} since John McManus always denied AJ's offer to come on his Radio Show on numerous occasions, Alot of bircher's are Old time Jones listeners so that also might play into these two sides not "getting along" Anyway who cares I really been upset with Lou dobbs for more then a year but I take the bad with the good atleast he is giving the public some awareness on the NAU/SPP stuff. Although if I ever met Lou in Real life Id say "You make me sick!!!" HAHAHHAAH

sorry to change topic a little bit at the end there but it's like the JBS/AJ crapola

[Fox McCloud]

At the same time, someone called in and said that the JBS was some "insider" organization that was secretly against the US (a "front" so to speak), and he denied that they were and defended them.

[Ex Post Facto]

Maybe we should have the JBS representatives in here to answer some questions?

[rpfreedom08]

JBS has been fighting the same fight as us for years. They understand who the anti-americans are in our government and realize what a threat it is too us. Anyone that makes movies like this and talk like this are good people and valued assets to our truth movement/revolution.

Larry McDonald (former chairman of the society) on the new world order.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3100752722910819372&q=larry+mcdonald&total=226&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

You can search yahoo on larry mcdonald to find out what became of him...

JBS Overview of America
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6732659166933078950&q=overview+of+america&total=394&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[FrankRep]

I'm a member of the John Birch Society.

[RegularRon]

I've been a member of the John Birch Society for over 10 years, I don't believe I've ever read anything on them wanting to take over the world. All I know is they are one of the few groups out there that are still trying to protect America from the UN, NAU, and all the other crap the Globalists want to do to us.

Alex Jones on the other hand has always seemed to have an axe to grind with them. I have never understood that. I don't mind Alex when he's making good points. It's when he goes off into Looney land is when he starts irking me.

[H Roark]

My MeetUp organizer is a JBS member, those guys are great. They have a wealth of resources and are our biggest allies. Keeping the U.S. sovereign seems to be their central issue, which is #1 in my book. I'm pretty surprised to hear that Alex Jones would be against them, that just doesn't make sense. That hurts AJ more than anything.

[Archie]

ITs not so much as AJ is against them as he is just mad that JBS doesnt "highly promote" him hence why AJ has always been struggling to get John McManus on his radio show but john instead turned down almost all the offers to go on his show . ITs pretty simple if you read the book "Shortwave War's" it talks about how the "paytriot" mov't has always had huge divisions in it because of people arguing Who should be the "flagship leader" of the Shortwave Crowd, Now its a little diffrent as its no longer older people listening to GCN as today AJ has hooked alot of leftwingers ever since Bush took office in 2000, If you go way back to AJ early years along with all the other "patriot radio hosts'leaders" the majority of listeners were Hardcore Rightwing Milita types who were venting from Bill Clintons gov't actions in The Ruby Ridge incident and the Waco Stand off. Back then Alex Jones was way diffrent he was much more careful in who he alligned with because he wasnt spending most of his times "making videos to sell to the mass" Instead AJ was Way More of an Activist Type in the clinton years then he is now. Once alot of his old time listeners saw the change in Jones when bush got in they Left him in the dust and AJ had to find a "younger audience " which he did that by being more Cozy with having leftist and socialists on his show and not blasting them like he did in his early days . I just Laugh when I hear people Like Noami Wolf On AJ show and Alex Actually is promoting here on there even though she is a Huge Leftist Anti-Gun type LOL!!!! If you dont believe me of his "Attitude change" after bush got in just google the interview that Alex Jones did with Noam Chomsky and compare the Alex Jones of that time to the one you hear today LOL! Its a huge drastic change and I would say not for the better in my opinion , Back then he was way more honest in Confronting someone on even one issue like the Gun issue with chomsky but after Bush got in you can see the change he has in his attitude toward Chomkyites take for instance all the times he never calls Greg Palast on his UN Loving along with recently Noami Wolf he just is not the same as he was and thats alot of the reason why JBS doesnt really want to "promote AJ" too much in becoming a regualr type guest on his show ..


Anyway if you never were around when Alex Did that Noam Chomsky Interview you wont understand what im saying ,But those who do remember know exactly what I mean in using the Chomsky interview as an example with his modern day attitude with Noami Wolf. Oh And AJ lost HUGE Credibilty right around the Y2k crap where some say he went "Way overboard" in fearmongering paranoia leading to many people wasting alot of money on all these "patriot survival" gear that people bought leading up to Y2k and so forth , Again Just Google Alex Jones Y2k Show and when you listen try to understand how someone listening to that Might become very fearful and paranoid for no reason. For me Im differnt and I dont get Scared when hearing all the "NWO DOOM N GLOOM" instead I take everythign with massive grain of salt As I Do with JBS articles as well as the NY times and all sorts of Media LOL!!!!!!!! To me ALL media even Alternative is "marketed to emotions" and sometimes the fear over rides any logic . But I dont have nothing Against JBS/AJ, OR anyone else because there just bringing a message and Im responsible how I take it not them . ITs like "BUY OR BEWARE" for me no matter what media were talking about , I think though JBS/AJ and even some MSM shows do bring out some great fruits that we should be thankful for And I very much am But you gotta have a filter of Logic and common sense . sort of like when Rudy or McCain tell us that Islamic extremism is REal Yes ITs very Real But how the hell is not securing our boarders and wanting a 100 + years of nationbuilding in countries where the common people dont want you there to begin with gonna help Fight the Crazies ? and not just create more reasons for the nutty crazies to keep recruiting jihadists? So as Im saying Rudy and McCain or JBS and Alex Jones may be saying something thats true but you gotta make sure these folks are using logic and reasoning behind there solutions instead of reactionary conspiracy theories like that Saddam Is 6 months away from declaring nuclear war against the USA Or that RUSSIA insiders are saying there ready to send USA aMISSLE ATTACK on Y2K LOL!!!!

[Luft97]

Alex Jones is the biggest nut there is.

Truth. ;)

You are right on about the JBS.

[danberkeley]

Member here.

[Dr.3D]

Member here.

Same here.

[capousa]

There is no animosity between the John Birch Society and Alex Jones.

Facts:

1) The President of the John Birch Society, John McManus has appeared on the AJ show twice - once with AJ and once with a guest host.

2) AJ is not anti-JBS - listen (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LWL23mT573s) to his blow off of a caller trying to claim that the JBS is somehow part of the conspiracy to enslave us.

3) There are people who get paid to spread rumors and sew dissention among those fighting tyranny.

Simple test: Who is fighting for freedom? They are probably your friend. Who is fighting against those fighting for freedom? They are probably your enemy.


Jim Capo
paid staff member
The John Birch Society

[rpfreedom08]

There is no animosity between the John Birch Society and Alex Jones.

Facts:

1) The President of the John Birch Society, John McManus has appeared on the AJ show twice - once with AJ and once with a guest host.

2) AJ is not anti-JBS - listen (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LWL23mT573s) to his blow off of a caller trying to claim that the JBS is somehow part of the conspiracy to enslave us.

3) There are people who get paid to spread rumors and sew dissention among those fighting tyranny.

Simple test: Who is fighting for freedom? They are probably your friend. Who is fighting against those fighting for freedom? They are probably your enemy.


Jim Capo
paid staff member
The John Birch Society

I don't know why people just don't call and ask him, it's not like people can't just call him monday through fridays 11-2 :)

[FrankRep]

Sweet little video I found about the John Birch Society

1965

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg6ixwmcMcc

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

I rejoined a few months ago, was a member for several years in the mid 90's. The John Birch Society has been on the frontlines of the struggle for freedom for about 50 years. They were making great headway in the early 60's, and were the victims of a massive smear campaign that painted them as a communist organization. That image lingers in the public's mind to this day. Nothing could be further from the truth. They have been and still are one of the best sources of information that exists. They are an educational organization and do not endorse candidates, but have run numerous Ron Paul articles in the past year. Although I'm not super involved, I don't think I've met one who doesn't support Ron Paul. I highly recommend joining just to support them if nothing else. They have an excellent monthly magazine as well, The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/).

It's named after John Birch, who was the first American known to be killed by a communist bullet. It was in China after WWII. He was instrumental in getting Doolittle and some of the raiders home after the surprise attack on Tokyo in WWII.

[Mr.mark]

a co-worker of mine saw something on the history channels "gangland", and some Arian brother hood dude mentioned the john birch society. Then he went off to tell me how they are a secret KKK organization. My co-worker sounded like that squirly kid from the new republic accusing Ron Paul for being racist, you know, "they speak in code" and stuff like that, but there is no real evidence.


can anybody shed some light on the subject? I truly believe JBS has no part in the kkk or anything stupid. I already talked to somebody from JBS, but i want to know what the guy on gangland said about JBS. Thanks for any help.

[FrankRep]

a co-worker of mine saw something on the history channels "gangland", and some Arian brother hood dude mentioned the john birch society. Then he went off to tell me how they are a secret KKK organization. My co-worker sounded like that squirly kid from the new republic accusing Ron Paul for being racist, you know, "they speak in code" and stuff like that, but there is no real evidence.


can anybody shed some light on the subject? I truly believe JBS has no part in the kkk or anything stupid. I already talked to somebody from JBS, but i want to know what the guy on gangland said about JBS. Thanks for any help.


The JBS went through a smear campaign the same way Ron Paul got smeared as a racist. The JBS is not a racist organization.


Jewish JBS Leader Weighs in on Recent Attacks on the Society
http://www.jbs.org/node/7351


By David Eisenberg
March 7, 2008

ARTICLE SYNOPSIS:

David Eisenberg, a member of the National Council of the John Birch Society, comments on the misperception that JBS is anti-Semitic.

[Truth Warrior]

It has been repeatedly suggested that there are secret ties and origins of the KKK with the Masons. I don't know if they are true or not. The Masons vehemently and officially deny it.

I wonder if there are any Masonic links with the JBS???

[FrankRep]

It has been repeatedly suggested that there are secret ties and origins of the KKK with the Masons. I don't know if they are true or not. The Masons vehemently and officially deny it.

I wonder if there are any Masonic links with the JBS???

Research Albert Pike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike). Albert Pike was a Freemason and started the KKK, but Freemasonry doesn't have connections as a whole. There are Black and Jewish Freemason members.

There are Freemasons in the JBS, but again, Freemasonry doesn't have connections as a whole.

Also with the Founding Fathers of America and the creator of the Constitution. Most of them were Freemasons.

[Truth Warrior]

Research Albert Pike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike). Albert Pike was a Freemason and started the KKK, but Freemasonry doesn't have connections as a whole.
I have researched Albert Pike. Scary guy.<IMHO>

There are Black and Jewish Freemason members.
Aren't the black freemasons kept under a separate organization within freemasonry? I don't recall the name of it right now.

There are Freemasons in the JBS, but again, Freemasonry doesn't have connections as a whole.
I appreciate the info.

Also with the Founding Fathers of America and the creator of the Constitution. Most of them were Freemasons.
I am aware that a lot of them were Freemasons.


Thanks for the reply and the information. :)

[FrankRep]

There are Black and Jewish Freemason members.

Aren't the black freemasons kept under a separate organization within freemasonry? I don't recall the name of it right now.

You might be thinking about Prince Hall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall_Freemasonry


Prince Hall Freemasonry derives from historical events which led to a tradition of separate, predominantly African-American, Freemasonic fraternal organization in North America. Prince Hall Masonry has always been regular in all respects.

I know very little about it.

[rpfreedom08]

Man I'm watching this movie and damn is it interesting.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4537550159823516000&q=john+birch&total=352&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

[pcosmar]

It has been repeatedly suggested
By Who? and Why?

It has been repeatedly suggested , That Ron Paul is a racist.

It has been repeatedly suggested , That his supporters are violent kooks.

It has been repeatedly suggested , that Terrist's are going to kill us all.

Do you see how dumb that sounds?

Please read this,
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=protocols&refpage=issues

There is a lot of good stuff here. This is Ron Paul's Message also.
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/

[Truth Warrior]

Yeah, Prince Hall, that's it. I've read very little about it either.

BTW, what's your take on the 33rd degree of Scottish Rite? I know the "official" Freemason position.

Thanks!

[Truth Warrior]

By Who? and Why?

It has been repeatedly suggested , That Ron Paul is a racist.

It has been repeatedly suggested , That his supporters are violent kooks.

It has been repeatedly suggested , that Terrist's are going to kill us all.

Do you see how dumb that sounds?

Please read this,
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=protocols&refpage=issues

There is a lot of good stuff here. This is Ron Paul's Message also.
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/

Hey dude, how about cutting me some slack here please? I'm just asking some questions here.

Sorry if my choice in phrasing put your nose out of joint and a twist in your knickers. :D

Thanks for the links!

Have a good day! :)

[pcosmar]

Hey dude, how about cutting me some slack here please? I'm just asking some questions here.

Sorry if my choice in phrasing put your nose out of joint and a twist in your knickers. :D

Thanks for the links!

Have a good day! :)

Hey , it was not meant to be personal.
I had heard some things about JBS as a child, and had never checked them out myself.
On later research I found that they believe and teach many of the things that I believe.

The whole "It has been repeatedly suggested " thing is used a lot.
It bears examination.

False claims and character assassination have been used to keep the truth hidden.
JBS is a good group even if one or two members were less than perfect.
I look at the motivations for trying to stifle the message.

[angelatc]

Are there any black, asian, etc, members of the John Birch Society?

edited to add: I'll bet Wikipedia has the answer to the question as to why the JBS is perceived as a racist organization.

The John Birch Society opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act in the belief that it was in violation of the 10th Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped the rights of individual states to make laws regarding Civil Rights.

[Truth Warrior]

Hey , it was not meant to be personal.
I had heard some things about JBS as a child, and had never checked them out myself.
On later research I found that they believe and teach many of the things that I believe.

The whole "It has been repeatedly suggested " thing is used a lot.
It bears examination.

False claims and character assassination have been used to keep the truth hidden.
JBS is a good group even if one or two members were less than perfect.
I look at the motivations for trying to stifle the message.

Actually the whole "objectionable phrase" was only about the KKK and the Masons, as you will note.

Suggestion: google KKK Mason

Thanks! :)

[FrankRep]

Are there any black, asian, etc, members of the John Birch Society?

edited to add: I'll bet Wikipedia has the answer to the question as to why the JBS is perceived as a racist organization.

The John Birch Society opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act in the belief that it was in violation of the 10th Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped the rights of individual states to make laws regarding Civil Rights.

Yes, all races are welcome.

For example:


For TSA, Honesty is NOT the Best Policy!
http://www.jbs.org/node/7223

By Wilton D. Alston
Published: Feb. 25, 2008

http://www.jbs.org/modules/bio/bio_image.php?image=/files/images/bio/Wilt.jpg

Wilton D. Alston (http://www.jbs.org/node/5200)
Read his Bio (http://www.jbs.org/node/5200)

Wilton Alston is a principal research scientist working in the field of transportation safety, specifically with regard to trains and transit. A libertarian activist and writer, and a speaker for the JBS Speaker's Bureau (http://www.jbs.org/speakers), Mr. Alston’s columns have appeared in such places as LewRockwell.com, Strike-the-Root.com and around the Internet blogosphere.

[Spirit of '76]

The JBS is a good group that's gotten a bum rap over the years.