Salvia divinorum

[armand61685]

Have you guys heard about it? It's a legal hallucinogenic plant that is smoked for shorter LSD effects. I want to try it, soon.

BUT, of course, our nanny government wants to make it illegal! A few states have made it illegal already and there is a fight going on for its status.

Land of the free my ASS!

First cannabis, now this?!

The corruption and bias in the media against these relatively harmless drugs is disgusting!

[Bruno]

If you can get high off of it, sooner or later is it going to be made illegal by the nanny-state.
I'm surprised it isn't illegal to spin around in circles to make yourself dizzy.

[brandon]

Personally, I am for legalizing everything.

However, I think salvia can be dangerous. It boggles my mind that our government outlaws marijuana and permits the sale of salvia. It leads alot of young people to believe salvia must be safe if they havn't outlawed it. Stay away from the concentrated extracts. If you are going to try it, just use the natural plant.

[armand61685]

Personally, I am for legalizing everything.

However, I think salvia can be very dangerous. It boggles my mind that our government outlaws marijuana and permits the sale of salvia. It leads alot of young people to believe salvia must be safe if they havn't outlawed it.

Be careful...

I know what you mean, and i'm really safe. I occasionally smoke weed (once every 2 months), don't drink alky, and I understand that salvia is very occasional thing too, as it is very potent. Of course, it's always wise to be in a good environment with mature and good friends. Yes and the natural plant is the only thing I would ever do.

[FreedomAndLaw]

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[LibertyRevolution]

I have smoked Salvia Divinorum. The plain leaves work but they kind of suck.

You have to take 3 or 4 hits in a row, holding your hits for like 5-10secs each while continually toasting the bowl with a butane torch lighter. Its a hot harsh smoke.

For this reason I would recommend using a 5x strength leaves, one really good pull out of a bong and you will know that Sally is not joke. I also recommend buying from a reputable source. The leaves I had were from a company called “Maztec Garden”, I get them from at a local head shop, but they also have a website.

1 hit of 5x and I’m tripping ballz for like 5 mins. Its not really like acid, shroomz, or LSD. Its it’s own trip. It comes on as soon as you exhale. No wait time, as you exhale you feel yourself fall out of reality. HARD visuals, Melting, Morphing, way more then shroomz, Everything is blooms and melts like being on 4 hits of acid, Great visuals.
Now the down side, the Body “high” I don’t like it at all. The entire time your on it, your are hot, sweating, with tingling sensations. It makes you want to lay down or sit immediately, not the type of thing you could do out at a club, or while driving you car. You are capable of doing nothing for the 5mins your on it. Its not the kind of thing you will want to do a lot, so I am not sure why that are trying to make it illegal. I have done it 3 times in one night, and by the 3rd round we had to dare each other to do it again, the body part sucked for all of us to the point where it wasn’t worth doing.
I do think Sally has a purpose. Say you want to know what “visuals” look like when your tripping ballz, without the worry of a 8-12 hour trip, or going to jail, then sally will work for that.

Or you can Get close to your monitor and stare at the black dot in this middle of this pic for 30 secs, then look at somthing not moving. It makes you see things bloom/boil, No joke. Stare at it for 30 secs, The more of your field of view the spiral takes up, the more stuff will be messed up looking, thats why I say get close to your monitor. I have this disk at home you spin it on a table and look at it, so scaned it and made and anigif, works pretty good considering.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2107/2285195865_efce9a8ef1_o.gif

[Dustancostine]

The only thing that the disk is doing is temporarily burning your cones and rods with the image of the spinning wheel, so that when you look away everything that you see is filtered through the spinning wheel, like wearing spinning wheel sunglasses. It is a shortcut that you nervous system takes, the longer an image or color is in your vision, the more you brain burns the image so that it does not have to continually reprocess the same data.

--Dustan

[Dr.3D]

The disk is using the classic "Water Fall" illusion. If you watch the disk for a while and then look at a picture of some clouds, the clouds will appear to be moving.

[WilliamC]

I dunno, I looked up some stuff about this and it doesn't sound too friendly :confused:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16151

After receiving a gram of 10X Salvia extract in the mail, my friends and I proceeded to use the entire gram in one night. Our first two experiments were in the dose range of around 40-50mg per person. We topped the night off by smoking the rest. Three people had 100mg each and the other two (myself included) had 150mg each. I was completely blown away by the result.

Setting: My bedroom. Time is 3am. I am with four of my good friends. Good state of mind.

Smoked 150mg of 10x extract in two bowls. The last 'normal' thing I remember is exhaling and thinking 'wow...that was a lot of smoke...'

Suddenly I became aware of a series of strange zipper-like patterns accross the room, running parallel with the floor. Each line was about a metre in distance from any other line. Then I became aware of the fact that everything I was seeing was loosing its depth and becoming flat, like a piece of paper. Except there were 'layers' of these papers all standing up straight from the floor. I could move around between the layers in my bedroom. It was kind of like walking through a room filled with freestanding cardboard cutouts with pictures of my room on them. One cutout would be my computer and desk, another my bed, and so on. The zipper-lines were becoming more and more pronounced as everything in my vision flattened up.

Then I noticed the presence of a few beings around me, whom I thought to be my friends (who were all in the room at the time). Each of these beings was attatched to one of the zipper lines in some way I can't describe. I could see them as human form, and they looked exactly like my friends. But I knew that they were all attatched to the zipper-lines, too. The idea was passed to me, from somewhere, that these people were the heads of the zippers that held reality together.

This was, I assure you, one of the most intricate horrors I have ever come across.

The idea that these people were all that stood between reality and nothingness scared the living shit out of me. To my complete horror I watched as one of my former friends began to walk along his zipper-line with an insane grin on his face. Reality began to 'unzip'.

I don't know how else to describe it. It looked EXACTLY like a zipper being undone. The two sections of reality that were previously joined by the zipper began to spread apart. An infinite blackness was the only thing left between the sheets of reality. My friends, I realized, were only some benevolent conciousness wearing their skin. Each one moved and acted precisely the same way. Each with the same sick grin on their face, they would unzip their zipper while goading me into letting it happen.

This led me to the conclusion that I, somehow, was in control of the fate of reality. I fixed the idea firmly in my head that everything would stop, and reality would zip itself back up.

This did not work.

Now I realized that I had no control over the situation, and never had. The beings wearing my friend's faces changed from goading and sneaky to angry and forceful. I was chased out of my room, into the kitchen. I became aware of the fact that I could not move as I thought I should be able to move. There was some form of resistance whenever I moved, accompanied with a strange zipping sound. I was now a zipper head, and as I ran I was unzipping reality behind me.

Panic hit me very very fast. I tried to flee the kitchen, as the other zippers had followed me and were trying to 'catch up' to me for what I thought was some purely evil reason. It was imperative that I stay ahead of them if I were to survive. I made my way through the living room. Down the back hallway of my house. Out the back door.

Reality was now completely coming apart around me. Everything had gone quiet, except for the noise of the other zippers following me, and the noise my own zipper made as I moved. All other noise seemed to dissapear as reality was unzipped. I was now in a very real state of panic as I watched in horror as my house unzipped from reality. I was not safe outside, either, I realized. But it was too late to do anything. Somehow I got the idea that I needed to let go. This wasn't worth fighting any longer. I watched with a growing sense of calm as four other zipper lines converged on me.

Just as reality was finishing its unzipping, I noticed the presence of one of my friends. He was standing in front of me, looking down at my face (he's taller than I am). He kept asking 'Why are you outside?' I realized that he was my friend from before, not the head of a zipper. It looked as if I was seeing him through a tunnel in the center of my vision. The tunnel widened and reality as I know it came back to me all at once. I was outside, but how? What had happened? What had I just experienced?

I allowed myself to be led back into the house, still too confused to do or say anything. A couple hours later, by the time I went to bed, I could remember everything clearly (and still do).

I'd have to say that Salvia is by far the strangest drug I have ever come across. It's like a mixture of Ketamine, Dramamine, and shrooms, plus something entirely novel. I would not call it fun at all except at lower doses. Everything I witnessed seemed very real as it happened. I remember having the thought (which scared me) that the zippers of reality had always been there, and I had always been the head of a zipper. It was as if I had been pretending all along that reality was the way it is, and that somehow I had forgotten the nature of my true existence. I was being shown my true nature, I thought.

Strangest thing to ever happen to me.

[sophocles07]

I've smoked this, and wasn't too impressed; but it was somewhat enjoyable.

[Mesogen]

It's not worth it. It stinks, it's harsh, and the feeling is terrible. Not pleasant at all.

It is good in a tincture together with thyme for sore throats though.

[MalcolmGandi]

www.erowid.org is a great place for info on salvia (and other hallucenogens). When I smoke salvia, it's like being in a dream. Not necessarily a good one, though. It's supposed to be great for meditation, but I haven't tried that yet.

[mackler]

I got some in a headshop, figuring I should try it while it's legal. I got the 10x kind.

I took a hit from a bowl. A few seconds after I exhaled I started tripping. Full-on visuals like mescaline or mushrooms. It lasted a couple minutes maybe.

Later on I put a larger amount in a bong. I put some psy-trance on in winamp and started up milkdrop. Then I took a huge-ass bong-rip. It totally took me into another dimension. My brain become one with my computer screen. I couldn't tell I was human. I thought I was a molecule. When I unglued my eyes from my computer screen I got that "cleaning urge" where you see everything that's out of order. I grabbed a book on my desk, got up to put it away on my bookshelf and by the time I got back to my desk I was straight again.

Basically it's how I imagine DMT to be (which I've never done). I tripped out for a couple minutes and then I was (mostly) back to normal. It's kind of cool because it doesn't put you out of commission for hours like other hallucinogens, but it would be more fun if it lasted a little bit longer. Fun to try but I can't see making a habit out of it.

Also it was kind of expensive: $30 for a gram of 10x, but worth it just to try.

Note: I strongly recommend sitting where you're not in danger of falling over.