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jlaker
02-21-2008, 01:14 AM
My brother-in-law is all about pro-life but supports McCain and this war.

Here is an e-mail I just recieved:

You know where I stand on the war, I am 110% for it. I am a Bush Lover. We have been through this before. I am supporting McCain only because he is the only one I have to support. I do not want him, but in my party he is all we have. I will NOT support Obama or Clinton. McCain will be alble to beat them because he is liberal enough that many dems are going to cross over. The only chance Hillary and Obama has to win is to join up together, if not McCain will win by a land slide, I guareantee it!!!! I also don't have to worry about them coming over here and bombing our children. It is the only way it will guarantee our way of life. I was supporting Ron Paul, but the media ruined his chances, and I want to vote for a president who will have a strong foreign policy, and Paul doensn't have a good foreign policy at all, although everything else is really very good about him. If he runs again someday I will look at him again.

Can anyone help me with this? I can't stand him!!:mad:

malkusm
02-21-2008, 01:19 AM
Argue that the best way to defend country, is to have our troops in OUR country, not in Germany, Korea, Israel, and elsewhere. Also point out that "good" foreign policy from a conservative standpoint USED to be that of non-intervention, that which denounced the nation-building Clinton did in Haiti and Somalia (as McCain did HIMSELF in Congress) and that which denounced the war in Vietnam as a dead-end war which only killed Americans, and even more Vietnamese.

But he looks pretty much like a lost cause to me.... :confused:

jlaker
02-21-2008, 01:23 AM
Argue that the best way to defend country, is to have our troops in OUR country, not in Germany, Korea, Israel, and elsewhere. Also point out that "good" foreign policy from a conservative standpoint USED to be that of non-intervention, that which denounced the nation-building Clinton did in Haiti and Somalia (as McCain did HIMSELF in Congress) and that which denounced the war in Vietnam as a dead-end war which only killed Americans, and even more Vietnamese.

But he looks pretty much like a lost cause to me.... :confused:

Thanks for the imput. He is a know it all and don't know shit! I would love input for as many people as possible.

hawks4ronpaul
02-21-2008, 01:25 AM
RP provides the best military. All the others weaken our military.
RP provides the best national security. All the others weaken our security.
RP provides the best intelligence. All the others weaken our intelligence.
RP provides the best foreign policy. All the others weaken our foreign policy.
RP provides the best internationalist foreign policy. All others isolate America with blowback.

Ron Paul’s strong foreign policy:

Keep an unbeatable military.
Uphold the Constitution and US sovereignty: Declare the war, fight it, win it, and come home.
Fight terrorists with intelligence and special units to stop overstretching our troops and to keep our conventional forces free and ready for major conventional threats.
Secure our borders and enforce our visa laws to stop terrorists.
Maintain financial security through sound money, fiscal conservatism, and non-intervention (the smart way to be globally active)—You can’t win a war when you’re bankrupt.

Full articles at http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

humanic
02-21-2008, 01:28 AM
"Educating Rudy" Press Conference with Ron Paul and Michael F. Sheuer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAt6Pf7jZjA)
Michael F. Scheuer is a former CIA employee. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.

Scott Ritter - Fools would Bomb Iran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQan1qo8T4)
Scott Ritter was the chief United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998.

qh4dotcom
02-21-2008, 01:30 AM
Show him these videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y395Tftgz0E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI&v3

Constitution Supporter
02-21-2008, 01:37 AM
maybe this might help, i dunno. from the rp2008 site
"Top Three Contributors to Ron Paul are U.S. Army, Navy and Air Force (2/14/08)

Message of strong national defense and strictly following the Constitution resonates with American servicemen and women

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – According to opensecrets.org, the top three contributors to Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s campaign are from the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force respectively.

“No matter how you measure it, Dr. Paul has the support of our nation’s brave servicemen and women,” said Kent Snyder, Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman. “His message of a strong national defense, and only going to war with a declaration of war – as mandated by the Constitution – resonates with those who risk their lives to defend that Constitution.”

No branch of the military appears among the “top contributors” to GOP frontrunner John McCain’s campaign.

Additionally, Ron Paul’s military contributions are greater than those of all other current candidates – John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama –combined.

The “Top Contributors” figures can be found at www.opensecrets.org.

For more information on military contributions to Dr. Paul’s campaign, read this press release.

"

rfbz
02-21-2008, 01:41 AM
You sure that e-mail is for real? I couldn't imagine anyone referring to themselves as a Bush lover :eek:

humanic
02-21-2008, 01:46 AM
Make sure you show him these pages too:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/veterans
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/national-defense/

Make him read it. Don't let him escape!

patriotcalendar
02-21-2008, 01:53 AM
Ask him what kind of message he thinks our armed forces are sending when they donate more to Ron Paul than all other candidates combined... and if it's possible they might know some things (about the situation in the mideast) your bro-in-law doesn't. ;)

patriotcalendar
02-21-2008, 01:57 AM
Oh.. and send him this quote:

"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing."

-- Dwight Eisenhower

jlaker
02-21-2008, 01:58 AM
You sure that e-mail is for real? I couldn't imagine anyone referring to themselves as a Bush lover :eek:

I swear on the constitution!!

Carole
02-21-2008, 02:30 AM
Have him read these:

The Chasm
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf

Days of Infamy
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling3.pdf

The War on terrorism
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling4.pdf

An Idea whose Hour Has Come
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958&q=%22an+idea+whose+time+has+come%22&total=17&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Freedom Force International
http://www.realityzone.com/ideawhosehour.html

Report from Iron Mountain: Using Fear to Make People Subservient to Government
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf


Thirteen Predictions
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/13predictions.pdf

No Place To Hide
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/noplacetohide.pdf

humanic
02-21-2008, 02:33 AM
Have him read these:

The Chasm
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling2.pdf

Days of Infamy
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling3.pdf

The War on terrorism
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling4.pdf

An Idea whose Hour Has Come
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958&q=%22an+idea+whose+time+has+come%22&total=17&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Freedom Force International
http://www.realityzone.com/ideawhosehour.html

Report from Iron Mountain: Using Fear to Make People Subservient to Government
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf


Thirteen Predictions
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/13predictions.pdf

No Place To Hide
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/noplacetohide.pdf

I second this!

jlaker
02-21-2008, 02:47 AM
Thank you everyone. I combined all info and just sent him an e-mail. I told him Bush was a fascist so I might get some curse words tomorrow. Cant wait!