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colecrowe
02-20-2008, 10:42 PM
LOOK AT THIS BS STORY [In fact, Paul raised almost TWICE as much from small donors (those giving less that $200) (61% Paul, 32% Obama)]:

From small donors come big rewards
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-money14feb14,1,2665495,full.story


Grass-roots giving is reshaping campaign fundraising, and Barack Obama has been particularly adept at cultivating it.


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According to the following graph,
Ron Paul raised 72% of his money came from donors giving less that $1,000; he only raised 8% of his money from donors giving $2,300 or more.
Obama raised 46% of his money from donors giving less than $1,000; he raised 33% of his money from donors giving $2,300 or more.


http://www.cfinst.org/pr/prRelease.aspx?ReleaseID=177

http://www.cfinst.org/images/email/Pres08_YE_b.gif

colecrowe
02-20-2008, 10:46 PM
wait a minute...why don't the percentages add up on the above graph?

*edit: nevermind, I'm dumb: it's because 2,300 or above includes 1,000 or above in it.

jsu718
02-20-2008, 11:09 PM
And it doesn't include between 200 and 1000 dollars

colecrowe
02-20-2008, 11:41 PM
HOW TO READ THIS CHART: This chart lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates. Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.


Obama top contributors:
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

Goldman Sachs $421,763
Ubs Ag $296,670
Lehman Brothers $250,630
National Amusements Inc $245,843
JP Morgan Chase & Co $243,848
Sidley Austin LLP $226,491
Citigroup Inc $221,578
Exelon Corp $221,517
Skadden, Arps Et Al $196,420
Jones Day $181,996
Harvard University $172,324
Citadel Investment Group $171,798
Time Warner $155,383
Morgan Stanley $155,196
Google Inc $152,802
University of California $143,029
Jenner & Block $136,565
Kirkland & Ellis $134,738
Wilmerhale Llp $119,245
Credit Suisse Group $118,250


Ron Paul top contributors:
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008

US Army $68,817
US Navy $57,076
US Air Force $52,371
Google Inc $51,382
Microsoft Corp $46,079
US Postal Service $31,054
Lockheed Martin $26,754
Boeing Co $24,388
At&T Inc $22,398
IBM Corp $19,177
Verizon Communications $18,399
Hewlett-Packard $18,014
Apple Inc $17,314
Intel Corp $16,751
Northrop Grumman $16,067
General Electric $15,788
General Dynamics $15,584
Cisco Systems $14,702
US Dept of Defense $14,338
Wachovia Corp $14,231

colecrowe
02-20-2008, 11:45 PM
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?Ind=K02&Cycle=2008&recipdetail=P&Mem=N&sortorder=U

Donations from Lobbyists:
Top 20 Presidential Candidates

Election cycle: 2008

1 Clinton, Hillary (D) $627,800
2 McCain, John (R) $370,715
3 Dodd, Christopher J (D) $240,625
4 Romney, Mitt (R) 236,775
5 Giuliani, Rudolph W (R) $224,150
6 Richardson, Bill (D) $177,800
7 Biden, Joseph R Jr (D) $116,110
8 Thompson, Fred (R) $105,500
9 Obama, Barack (D) $80,409
10 Hunter, Duncan (R) $31,150
11 Edwards, John (D) $27,250
12 Thompson, Tommy (R) $17,800
13 Huckabee, Mike (R) $7,714
14 Vilsack, Thomas J (D) $1,250
15 Tancredo, Tom (R) $250
16 Paul, Ron (R) $200

END OF LIST

colecrowe
02-21-2008, 12:09 AM
HOW TO READ THIS CHART: This chart lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates. Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.


JOHN MCCAIN (R)
Top Industries
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.asp?id=N00006424&cycle=2008

1 Retired $5,029,806
2 Lawyers/Law Firms $2,557,661
3 Securities & Investment $2,166,796
4 Real Estate $1,993,164
5 Misc Finance $995,013
6 Health Professionals $720,198
7 Business Services $665,669
8 Commercial Banks $630,854
9 Misc Business $463,460
10 TV/Movies/Music $443,677
11 Lobbyists $422,376
12 Insurance $321,531
13 Education $304,927
14 Computers/Internet $304,522
15 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $293,558
16 Civil Servants/Public Officials $271,446
17 Construction Services $236,356
18 Oil & Gas $231,160
19 General Contractors $219,538
20 Accountants $212,027


RON PAUL (R)
Top Industries
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008

1 Retired $973,304
2 Computers/Internet $661,853
3 Health Professionals $479,878
4 Misc Business $438,860
5 Misc Finance $327,547
6 Education $327,086
7 Real Estate $299,877
8 Other $272,250
9 Business Services $264,085
10 Securities & Investment $255,052
11 Lawyers/Law Firms $237,275
12 Civil Servants/Public Officials $211,117
13 Construction Services $170,571
14 General Contractors $138,817
15 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $131,142
16 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $125,782
17 Printing & Publishing $116,716
18 TV/Movies/Music $109,931
19 Insurance $97,338
20 Special Trade Contractors $95,986

satchelmcqueen
02-21-2008, 08:10 PM
Yeah this is pure BS! Paul doesnt bend for anyone, which scares the establishment to death.

jdmetz
02-21-2008, 08:31 PM
LOOK AT THIS BS STORY [In fact, Paul raised almost TWICE as much from small donors (those giving less that $200) (61% Paul, 32% Obama)]

Actually, Obama raised more than Paul from small donors. Looking at the chart, 32% of Obama's $97.2 million = $31.1 million from small donors. 61 % of Paul's $28.0 million = $17.1 million.