Is everything working out perfectly for us?

[Jeremy]

I'm beginning to think maybe it's best RP isn't winning the GOP nomination. Who can really beat the Obama cult? Come November, people will also think it's their obligation to vote for the first black president. This is racism and this is our democracy... it sucks

Also, 4 years of Obama (or Clinton) will be proof that the Democrats' socialism is a bad idea. I hope it will knock some sense into the young sheeple as well. I plan to be as hard on Obama, if he wins the election, as people are on Bush now. How much money is he going to spend? Really...

It's ashame though because an Obama presidency is just going to feed the few racist people we still have in the country. I wish he could be voted for for the right reasons and that he could actually have a good plan to help America. In reality, his plan for the economy is terrible. Clinton would even be much better for the economy.

We saw it on CNN today... Ron Paul is probably the spark of a movement, like Goldwater was. He may not be the next president, but he has done a HECK of a lot of good for the country.

[nate895]

Ron Paul would be better, but I would think of the other contenders, an Obama Presidency would be the best because it would give us a full four years to start the next Presidential Election, by which time we will have many more politicians in office, and we are going to start whoever will run for 2012 the day after the General Election.

[freelance]

I'm sort of in agreement with you, but for a little different reason. I have known a few alcoholics in my time, and one thing they taught me is that you have to hit rock bottom before you get better. I think that America has to hit rock bottom before enough people wake up to take our country back. If that's the case, then let's get it on and get it over with so that we can rebuild while I have some life left in me.

While the SHTF, maybe we can get enough training under our belts to take back our country OUR way.

[Jeremy]

I'm sort of in agreement with you, but for a little different reason. I have known a few alcoholics in my time, and one thing they taught me is that you have to hit rock bottom before you get better. I think that America has to hit rock bottom before enough people wake up to take our country back. If that's the case, then let's get it on and get it over with so that we can rebuild while I have some life left in me.

While the SHTF, maybe we can get enough training under our belts to take back our country OUR way.

Wow.... that's exactly what Glen Beck said o.0

Is that where you got it from?

[Kludge]

White Guilt FTL.

Thanks a lot KKK & NAACP for creating racial barriers.

[linusPAULing]

IMO, working out perfectly for a libertarian movement means reinstating constitutional government in all three branches, which unfortunately is a long way off. However, the Ron Paul presidential bid has promoted this cause at least 10 times beyond my original expectation, which is awesome.

We have to just keep working, getting as as many people elected to as many posts as possible, and see what happens. The real meat of the movement will be realized after November.

BTW, I'm still not convinced that Obama is our next president. I know he has the momentum right now, but somehow Bushes and Clintons always figure out some miraculous way to win... it is uncanny :)

[JimInNY]

I'm sort of in agreement with you, but for a little different reason. I have known a few alcoholics in my time, and one thing they taught me is that you have to hit rock bottom before you get better. I think that America has to hit rock bottom before enough people wake up to take our country back. If that's the case, then let's get it on and get it over with so that we can rebuild while I have some life left in me.

While the SHTF, maybe we can get enough training under our belts to take back our country OUR way.

I agree with you. If we are going to have to hit bottom, let get there quickly.

However, I do still hold onto some hope that Americans will not have to fully hit bottom i order to wake up. That's why as long as RP is in the race, I will support him.

[phree]

Whoever wins will probably get re-elected in 2012 because Americans rarely vote against a sitting President during a "war".

[Jeremy]

Whoever wins will probably get re-elected in 2012 because Americans rarely vote against a sitting President during a "war".

Maybe not if we start bashing him/her from day one like Bush gets now...

I wonder if Obama could be worse than Bush...

at least Bush doesn't trick people into making them think he's a cup cake with a cherry on top

[linusPAULing]

Whoever wins will probably get re-elected in 2012 because Americans rarely vote against a sitting President during a "war".

That I agree with, to my utter dismay.

If we have economic collapse in the next term, the government will be billed as the ultimate savior. That will be hard to combat in a time of dispair.

The only way to win back the country is to educate a critical mass of people. And people need to be motivated to learn if you're going to educate them. I therefore believe a critical mass needs to be achieved before the next emergency. That will take a lot of work.

[integrity]

The only way to win back the country is to educate a critical mass of people. And people need to be motivated to learn if you're going to educate them. I therefore believe a critical mass needs to be achieved before the next emergency. That will take a lot of work.

The only way to properly educate them is to Kill the MSM or offer a viable alternative to the couch potatoes....

[klamath]

I agree but for a slightly different reason. If hillary would be elected it 2012 would be a referendum on her charactor not so much her policies and socialists would claim it was her not socialism the failed. If obama gets elected in 2012 it will be on his policies he is judged. Obama is the first far left democrat since LBJ that will probably win. We can run against real statism in 2012. If the ecconomy is still chugging along Obama will be hard to unseat but if TSHTF and government is no longer able to deliver handouts we have a good chance.

[AJ Antimony]

I'm sort of in agreement with you, but for a little different reason. I have known a few alcoholics in my time, and one thing they taught me is that you have to hit rock bottom before you get better. I think that America has to hit rock bottom before enough people wake up to take our country back. If that's the case, then let's get it on and get it over with so that we can rebuild while I have some life left in me.

While the SHTF, maybe we can get enough training under our belts to take back our country OUR way.

I STRONGLY disagree with this approach. To see why, you have to connect some plausible strings. For example, in the news within the past couple years has been talk of a North American Union and an Amero. The NAU has been disguised as some economic unity plan. Therefore, is it not odd that simultaneously, the US dollar is crashing to hell and the US economy is on the brink of collapse? It looks like the gov't KNOWS what its doing and really wants this NAU.

And HISTORY shows your logic is flawed. Example: The Great Depression. The economy his rock bottom and what happened? Was the Fed abolished? No. What happened was President FDR, in iffy to major violations of the Constitution, greatly expanded the size of the federal gov't through his New Deal. And his New Deal didn't even cure the depression! It was arming up for WWII which cured the depression.

So to suggest hitting rock bottom is the best way to fix this country is entirely not true as evidenced by history. See also the Civil War and Reconstruction.