ronpaulhawaii
02-20-2008, 03:25 PM
This is the beginning of a compilation post of the following thread
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121298
Good stuff in there...
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Here is where we are at...
02-16-2008, 11:42 AM
DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
How to Win the Convention- REAL REVOLUTION
I am a Republican and am within the party.
I have seen the belly of the beast.
Many of us in the party are angry about what has happened. We know the game.
Romney's people will never do it. Giuliani's people will never do it. They are beholden to the party. Only you can and will.
Your campaign has been taken off course. Whether you realize it or not, your opportunity to win the nomination is now greater than ever. Take hold of the reigns.
Steady mind and steady planning.
Huckabee is your saving grace for he will drive the wedge within the party line. Do not be sidetracked. Do not be despondent. Do not be afraid.
Win.
The focus now, should be to receive delegate votes at the Convention. Ideally, the RPHQs should be working with you to bring delegates on board. They probably are not doing this so it is up to you.
It is the delegates and only the delegates that will determine the winner of the Republican nomination. McCain and Huckabee's campaign know this and they are working in this direction. You should be too.
Unbound delegates may vote for whom they like.
Bound delegates may hope for a brokered convention, or they may choose to go in opposition of party rules and vote for the candidate of their choice.
One thing is for sure. You will never be able to vote for RP if you are not there as a delegate.
Does a Revolution wilt away at the first sign of defeat? No.
YOU are your only hope for the future. This is your opportunity to win and only RP supporters have the fortitude to do it. This should be the direction you work in. It is not over.
Think.
Plan.
Organize.
Act.
Win!
Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4HW3I82lg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4HW3I82lg)
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=71527&rendTypeId=4
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02-16-2008, 10:44 PM
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DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Now is when the Revolution begins.
Step Two
Plan
No war has ever been won without a plan.
This is the foundation.
It is impossible for one to know all the rules of each state GOP. It is incumbent on you to contact your state party on Tuesday and learn the rules.
Also, check your state committee's website this weekend to see if they have information available online.
Have your questions prepared.
How many delegates in the state? Are the spots filled? How many available?
Is it a winner take all state?
Are the delegates unbound?
If delegates are bound, then for how many rounds?
What is the process for becoming a delegate? Is it by petition? How many signatures required?
Can delegates be uncommitted?Think over the next day, read about your state and be prepared for your call. Time is of the essence.
Gather as much information as possible for your state. This is the grunt work, the unglamorous part of politics that turns many off and away.
It is here that people fail because they can't understand the process or find it tedious and unsexy. This is how your opponents win. They know the ropes by heart. In due time, so will you.
We will then take this information and post it in a central location. Be ready to take all you have learned and condense it in understandable terms and represent the rules of your state.
Note - Thank you to Jim for reaching out to me.
You are about to enter a new arena of politics.
It isn't a warm, fuzzy place.
It won't be friendly.
It's cold and dirty and you will only have each other.
You will now prepare for your Revolution.
Bend like the reed rather than break like the oak when the winds of change blow
You will make history.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1805444.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=DF96DB48C96E4277DEEA904F11953B84A55A1E4F32AD3138
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02-17-2008, 08:21 AM
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DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penners
Questions and comment for DeepThroat.
First, I thank God that you joined this forum and made your post. And I thank YOU. Your words have renewed my hope and determination.
My questions are:
(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.
Thank you for your kind words. I am happy to hear that I have been able to help you and hopefully others, maintain your strength, will and determination.
To answer your questions.
(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
I hope to remain here for as long as it takes, as long as my presence will be useful and welcomed and, hopefully until victory.
(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
Not for any reason that I could rationally define. Maybe it's because as a new poster, I felt a bit of separation from you as a group. Maybe it was for dramatic effect and just writing style. Perhaps because behind this wall of anonymity, it is easier for me to convey my message by slightly distancing myself. After all, I have essentially advocated winning the Convention by attrition numbers and any means possible. That would make me a bit of a heretic within the party. :rolleyes: There is no dishonorable intention and I did not even realize that my writing could be misconstrued in any other manner than how I intended to be.
Please make no mistake. I support Ron Paul, always have. I am on your side.
(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.
I believe there are other parts of the forum that are specific to each state.
One of the posters on this board has given me the link to a site that ironically, has been designed with the intention of something like this. Talk about lucky breaks!
Isn't it great that RPaul supporters have all these resources at their disposal. It's just a matter of being able to connect the dots and build the tower.
Each state will have their own Editor and will have to be registered as such. I leave that up to the webmaster to determine how he will weed out any moles. He is probably familiar with the screen names from this forum.
http://newr3volution.com/
Part of inspiring is to also keep people engaged and making certain that people understand. I hope to do this by taking it one step at a time. Nothing would be worse than losing people because they were unable to grasp the concept.
Hope this answered your questions.
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Yesterday, 07:53 PM
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DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mexicanpizza
Great posts by DT. I hate questioning people's motives but it's part of me.
In one breath, warning us to be cautious about posting info about delegates. And in the next telling us to PM it to him so he can keep a database?
Is there any sort of corroboration, other that DT is a fantastic motivational writer? Someone this "deep on the inside" only comes out now? IP Check? ;)
<btw, I hate being an eternal skeptic>
Thank. Your questioning motives is totally understandable and valid. I will answer as best I can.
I believe in order to attempt to achieve anything, it has to be done in a well organized and united manner. There has to be a plan. Internet postings cheering each other on with "Go, Ron Paul" and "We're Going to Win" , makes for good inspiration and a night of internet fun, but in the end, doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
The beauty of this campaign has been in part, it's laissez faire style. It's also been the campaign's greatest weakness. I wrote in an earlier posting, that I thought the campaign HQs should be coordinating this effort, but it appears, they haven't been doing it in full force. Who knows, maybe they're sharper than we realize and have already laid out the foundation for the convention, but for some reason, I just don't think so.
The other campaigns no doubt, are working in this direction. Just today, I read an article about the Clinton campaign working to take pledged delegates away from Obama.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html
Welcome to the real world.
Yes, I did ask that people send me information privately. I also made a point of stating that I did not want names. Who you are makes no difference to me. Frankly, I would rather not know or be in possession of that kind of data. The only thing that matters to me is the coordination of this effort and to win. How can you organize if you must spend time sifting through countless posts and threads looking for this information. If that's how it's going to work, then we would have a better chance of winning the lottery than winning the nomination. That's just the truth.
What motivates me? That's a harder one to answer.
The love of my country
The concern for the direction in which we as a nation are headed
My belief that Paul would be the best president
My contempt for McCain, Clinton & Obama
The feeling of betrayal by my party and our elected officials
The anger which I felt when I watched the media unjustly eliminate and smear Paul in this race
The sadness I feel when I read the posts of so many down trodden supporters after lost primaries and caucuses.
The frustration I felt after watching a campaign raise millions and yet worked so ineffectively.
Taxes
Iraq
Recession
The desire to know I fought well
The heavy heart I bear when I think of the future for my children and yours.
Should I go on?
They say it's a fine line between love and hate. I walk that fine line in my motivation.
I'm sure if the admins of this board have the capabilities to check IP addresses, they would have done it by now. Not sure what they'll learn from it though. If they have somehow managed to obtain my name, that's fine. I have no reason to believe they would do anything hurtful to me or this effort. There would be no reason to. I am one of you.
I recognized a void that had to be filled and stepped up to the plate. No more randomness, no more haphazardness, just achieving the mission. Winning.
Of course, you can take anything I write and do what you will with it.
I can only say, I have extended my hand to you, I hope that you extend yours to me.
Let's make history. Together.
______________________________________________
GOP Rules for Becoming a Delegate By State
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121886
The Battle Will be Fought on
September 1-4, 2008
St. Paul, Minneapolis
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02-18-2008, 11:01 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/clear.gif
ronpaulhawaii (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1425)
A companion thread to this for collecting GOP rules state by state has been stickied, Please revisit your state rules and post them here
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121886
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Please read the actual thread and prepare for battle
Make History - Dare to WIN!!!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121298
Good stuff in there...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Here is where we are at...
02-16-2008, 11:42 AM
DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
How to Win the Convention- REAL REVOLUTION
I am a Republican and am within the party.
I have seen the belly of the beast.
Many of us in the party are angry about what has happened. We know the game.
Romney's people will never do it. Giuliani's people will never do it. They are beholden to the party. Only you can and will.
Your campaign has been taken off course. Whether you realize it or not, your opportunity to win the nomination is now greater than ever. Take hold of the reigns.
Steady mind and steady planning.
Huckabee is your saving grace for he will drive the wedge within the party line. Do not be sidetracked. Do not be despondent. Do not be afraid.
Win.
The focus now, should be to receive delegate votes at the Convention. Ideally, the RPHQs should be working with you to bring delegates on board. They probably are not doing this so it is up to you.
It is the delegates and only the delegates that will determine the winner of the Republican nomination. McCain and Huckabee's campaign know this and they are working in this direction. You should be too.
Unbound delegates may vote for whom they like.
Bound delegates may hope for a brokered convention, or they may choose to go in opposition of party rules and vote for the candidate of their choice.
One thing is for sure. You will never be able to vote for RP if you are not there as a delegate.
Does a Revolution wilt away at the first sign of defeat? No.
YOU are your only hope for the future. This is your opportunity to win and only RP supporters have the fortitude to do it. This should be the direction you work in. It is not over.
Think.
Plan.
Organize.
Act.
Win!
Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4HW3I82lg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4HW3I82lg)
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=71527&rendTypeId=4
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02-16-2008, 10:44 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/clear.gif
DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Now is when the Revolution begins.
Step Two
Plan
No war has ever been won without a plan.
This is the foundation.
It is impossible for one to know all the rules of each state GOP. It is incumbent on you to contact your state party on Tuesday and learn the rules.
Also, check your state committee's website this weekend to see if they have information available online.
Have your questions prepared.
How many delegates in the state? Are the spots filled? How many available?
Is it a winner take all state?
Are the delegates unbound?
If delegates are bound, then for how many rounds?
What is the process for becoming a delegate? Is it by petition? How many signatures required?
Can delegates be uncommitted?Think over the next day, read about your state and be prepared for your call. Time is of the essence.
Gather as much information as possible for your state. This is the grunt work, the unglamorous part of politics that turns many off and away.
It is here that people fail because they can't understand the process or find it tedious and unsexy. This is how your opponents win. They know the ropes by heart. In due time, so will you.
We will then take this information and post it in a central location. Be ready to take all you have learned and condense it in understandable terms and represent the rules of your state.
Note - Thank you to Jim for reaching out to me.
You are about to enter a new arena of politics.
It isn't a warm, fuzzy place.
It won't be friendly.
It's cold and dirty and you will only have each other.
You will now prepare for your Revolution.
Bend like the reed rather than break like the oak when the winds of change blow
You will make history.
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1805444.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=DF96DB48C96E4277DEEA904F11953B84A55A1E4F32AD3138
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02-17-2008, 08:21 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/clear.gif
DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penners
Questions and comment for DeepThroat.
First, I thank God that you joined this forum and made your post. And I thank YOU. Your words have renewed my hope and determination.
My questions are:
(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.
Thank you for your kind words. I am happy to hear that I have been able to help you and hopefully others, maintain your strength, will and determination.
To answer your questions.
(1) Will you continue to join/instruct/inspire/assist us on this forum
I hope to remain here for as long as it takes, as long as my presence will be useful and welcomed and, hopefully until victory.
(2) You made references to "your fight", "your saving grace".... rather than "our fight" / "our saving grace"..... why?
Not for any reason that I could rationally define. Maybe it's because as a new poster, I felt a bit of separation from you as a group. Maybe it was for dramatic effect and just writing style. Perhaps because behind this wall of anonymity, it is easier for me to convey my message by slightly distancing myself. After all, I have essentially advocated winning the Convention by attrition numbers and any means possible. That would make me a bit of a heretic within the party. :rolleyes: There is no dishonorable intention and I did not even realize that my writing could be misconstrued in any other manner than how I intended to be.
Please make no mistake. I support Ron Paul, always have. I am on your side.
(3) To whom do we give the information you requested we gather about our state delegates.
I believe there are other parts of the forum that are specific to each state.
One of the posters on this board has given me the link to a site that ironically, has been designed with the intention of something like this. Talk about lucky breaks!
Isn't it great that RPaul supporters have all these resources at their disposal. It's just a matter of being able to connect the dots and build the tower.
Each state will have their own Editor and will have to be registered as such. I leave that up to the webmaster to determine how he will weed out any moles. He is probably familiar with the screen names from this forum.
http://newr3volution.com/
Part of inspiring is to also keep people engaged and making certain that people understand. I hope to do this by taking it one step at a time. Nothing would be worse than losing people because they were unable to grasp the concept.
Hope this answered your questions.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yesterday, 07:53 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/clear.gif
DeepThroat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=17990)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mexicanpizza
Great posts by DT. I hate questioning people's motives but it's part of me.
In one breath, warning us to be cautious about posting info about delegates. And in the next telling us to PM it to him so he can keep a database?
Is there any sort of corroboration, other that DT is a fantastic motivational writer? Someone this "deep on the inside" only comes out now? IP Check? ;)
<btw, I hate being an eternal skeptic>
Thank. Your questioning motives is totally understandable and valid. I will answer as best I can.
I believe in order to attempt to achieve anything, it has to be done in a well organized and united manner. There has to be a plan. Internet postings cheering each other on with "Go, Ron Paul" and "We're Going to Win" , makes for good inspiration and a night of internet fun, but in the end, doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
The beauty of this campaign has been in part, it's laissez faire style. It's also been the campaign's greatest weakness. I wrote in an earlier posting, that I thought the campaign HQs should be coordinating this effort, but it appears, they haven't been doing it in full force. Who knows, maybe they're sharper than we realize and have already laid out the foundation for the convention, but for some reason, I just don't think so.
The other campaigns no doubt, are working in this direction. Just today, I read an article about the Clinton campaign working to take pledged delegates away from Obama.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html
Welcome to the real world.
Yes, I did ask that people send me information privately. I also made a point of stating that I did not want names. Who you are makes no difference to me. Frankly, I would rather not know or be in possession of that kind of data. The only thing that matters to me is the coordination of this effort and to win. How can you organize if you must spend time sifting through countless posts and threads looking for this information. If that's how it's going to work, then we would have a better chance of winning the lottery than winning the nomination. That's just the truth.
What motivates me? That's a harder one to answer.
The love of my country
The concern for the direction in which we as a nation are headed
My belief that Paul would be the best president
My contempt for McCain, Clinton & Obama
The feeling of betrayal by my party and our elected officials
The anger which I felt when I watched the media unjustly eliminate and smear Paul in this race
The sadness I feel when I read the posts of so many down trodden supporters after lost primaries and caucuses.
The frustration I felt after watching a campaign raise millions and yet worked so ineffectively.
Taxes
Iraq
Recession
The desire to know I fought well
The heavy heart I bear when I think of the future for my children and yours.
Should I go on?
They say it's a fine line between love and hate. I walk that fine line in my motivation.
I'm sure if the admins of this board have the capabilities to check IP addresses, they would have done it by now. Not sure what they'll learn from it though. If they have somehow managed to obtain my name, that's fine. I have no reason to believe they would do anything hurtful to me or this effort. There would be no reason to. I am one of you.
I recognized a void that had to be filled and stepped up to the plate. No more randomness, no more haphazardness, just achieving the mission. Winning.
Of course, you can take anything I write and do what you will with it.
I can only say, I have extended my hand to you, I hope that you extend yours to me.
Let's make history. Together.
______________________________________________
GOP Rules for Becoming a Delegate By State
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121886
The Battle Will be Fought on
September 1-4, 2008
St. Paul, Minneapolis
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
02-18-2008, 11:01 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/clear.gif
ronpaulhawaii (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1425)
A companion thread to this for collecting GOP rules state by state has been stickied, Please revisit your state rules and post them here
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=121886
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Please read the actual thread and prepare for battle
Make History - Dare to WIN!!!