Your Opinion of the ACLU?

[jumpyg1258]

From what I have noticed, it seems like a lot of conservatives or at least people who claim they are conservatives say they do not like the ACLU. I personally do not understand this since the ACLU helps defend our freedoms but I want to see what your view is with this poll.

[WilliamC]

When the ACLU starts defending 2nd amendment rights along with 1st amendment rights I might take them seriously.

But actually they are simply another form of collectivist with their own agenda to push, and it isn't the agenda of individual rights.

[Chester Copperpot]

I put positive even though there are alot of things they do which I feel undermine our culture and status as a nation... You need to have them to balance out people on the far side of the opposite.

[Goldwater Conservative]

My problem with them is that it would be more accurate to describe them as the Militantly Secularist DNC-approved Civil Liberties Union. They tend to go overboard on some issues (Boy Scouts) and not far enough on others (property rights violations).

[axiomata]

Other.

My opinion of them is case by case.

[Kade]

People here appear to misunderstand many things...

I am a member of the ACLU and I think it is one of the most important organizations in existence...

As far as second amendment rights go, they explain here: http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html

I don't consider gun ownership a basic right, but that's me... I do believe the Constitution gives individuals the right.

Very rarely have I disagreed with the organization... I honestly don't think anyone who cares about civil liberties would...

[Kade]

My problem with them is that it would be more accurate to describe them as the Militantly Secularist DNC-approved Civil Liberties Union. They tend to go overboard on some issues (Boy Scouts) and not far enough on others (property rights violations).

Sure, having private organizations funded by federal money and federal grants, discriminate against people based on their religion is a great idea.

[sophocles07]

I put positive, even though at times I think they come off as looking ridiculous. This is probably, though, the result of media focus on making the ACLU look "liberal", but also from the fact that to preserve all liberties, at times the most ridiculous freedoms must be allowed for.

BUT: even if that is true, I still find their nitpicking over religion in schools, or any public place, ridiculous, and probably productive of negative, orthodox religious reaction.

[Mach]

ACLU Sponsored Video - Real ID................... Firefighter Terrorist?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XObbEwI6P4

That really gets me. Who pays for Real ID? Us! The People! We are supposed to pay for our own rights to be stripped away........ a scam on top of a scam.

I won't be getting a Real ID....... Bush/Cheney can stick my ID up their friggin iceholes.

[berrybunches]

I think they spend way to much time on goofy issues. To much time defending NAMLA's rights and too little time on protecting individual rights of mine and yours.

[weslinder]

I think their view on the 2nd Amendment is way wrong, and that they basically ignore the free exercise clause in the 1st Amendment. Other than that, they do a pretty good job.

[AutoDas]

They're the only union I like, but they do more protect all of the Bill of Rights.

[Kludge]

Other.

My opinion of them is case by case.

+1, they're about as inconsistent as the republicrats =/

However, they TEND to oppose government intervention with human lives.... So, I guess I have a somewhat positive opinion of them

[LibertiORDeth]

Sure, having private organizations funded by federal money and federal grants, discriminate against people based on their religion is a great idea.

What, BSA is government funded?

[IcyPeaceMaker]

National Prayer Network

ACLU TOP HEAVY WITH JEWS
By Rev. Ted Pike
4 Oct 06

Most thinking people know that the American Civil Liberties Union is vehemently anti-Christian. What they don't know is that 3 of 6 of ACLU's top national leaders are liberal Jewish activists.

Although ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero, is an in-your-face Hispanic homosexual, second in command is Nadine Strossen, Jewish. She was given the "Woman of Distinction" award from the Women's League of Conservative Judaism and the "Women who Dared" award from the National Council of Jewish Women. A member of the Council on Foreign Relations, she is married to Eli M. Noam, professor and founding director of Columbia University's Institute for Tele-Information.

Third in command at ACLU is legal counsel Steven Shapiro. As the legal mastermind of ACLU, he may well wield greatest power. Shapiro commands an army of 90 fulltime lawyers, maintaining an active docket of cases harassing the public expression of Christian values across America.

Geri E. Rozanski, director of affiliate support, is also a Jewish activist. Before joining ACLU, she was director for the large field operation of the American Jewish Committee.

Executive Director Anthony Romero may largely fulfill the role of a token Latino/homosexual figurehead. Ultimately, he may be Gentile window dressing, meant to deflect public attention from the real brains behind the ACLU, Strossen and Shapiro.

Jews behind "Civil Liberties" Fronts

Jews comprise only 2.5 percent of the American population, yet most of the largest anti-Christian "civil liberties" organizations are disproportionately staffed by them:

B'nai B'rith International, initiator of hate crimes laws in Canada, Europe, and Australia is 100 percent Jewish. The same is true of its civil liberties pit bull, ADL.

People for the American Way, founded and directed by left-wing Jewish TV producer Norman Lear, contains a disproportionate number of Jews in its top leadership. Three of eight have Jewish names. Carol Blum is executive vice president and chief operating officer. Elliot Mincberg is senior vice president, general counsel, and legal director. Sharon Lettman is vice president of external affairs and director of national programs and outreach.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, chief antagonist to public display of Judge Roy Moore's 10 Commandments, is even more predominantly Jewish. Its three top leaders are Jews. President and CEO is J. Richard Cohen. Founder and chief trial counsel is Morris Dees. Founder and president emeritus is Joseph J. Levin Jr.

ACLU: Distraction from Real Enemy

For the past 40 years, the evangelical right has found the ACLU the perfect villain for a simple reason: Since it is not perceived as Jewish, they can criticize it without danger of being labeled "anti-Semitic."

The ACLU performs a very devious and useful role as part of the overall conspiracy of Jewish activism against Christianity: It distracts Christians and conservatives from a much greater threat, ADL. The ACLU makes itself conspicuously outrageous, as threatening to Christian values and symbols as can be imagined. This entirely preoccupies the attention of the religious right. As a result, ADL/B'nai B'rith over the last 40 years has been free to develop and put in place their Orwellian "anti-hate laws" throughout the western hemisphere.

Milestones of such erosion of Christian freedom include:

Passage of ADL's Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990. This gave ADL complete control in America of hate crimes education and enforcement for police, FBI, and the US Justice Department.

Passage of ADL hate laws in 46 US states during the past two decades.

Creation of thought crimes bureaucracies, outlawing public criticism of homosexuality and Judaism in Canada, Europe, and Australia/New Zealand.

Creation of an "Office of Global Anti-Semitism" in the US State Department, making Christians into anti-Semites. (See, "U.S. State Department Says New Testament is 'Anti-Semitic'?")

Creation of a vast 55-nation anti-hate bureaucracy in Europe, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. OSCE vows to outlaw "cyberhate," ending free speech and free talk radio on the internet. (See, "Global Hate Crimes Gestapo Being Created")
Failure of Perception and Strategy

Yes, ACLU is busy defending pornographers and litigating against crosses, 10 Commandments in public, and nativity scenes at Christmastime. But in a far more threatening way, taking advantage of the distraction provided by ACLU, ADL has been massively destroying freedom of speech in most of the western industrialized world. To this moment, it has done so unidentified and virtually unresisted by the leaders of Christendom and the new right.

As long as Christian leaders lay blame upon secular humanism, the New World Order, liberalism, or the ACLU and remain afraid to identify the real culprit, liberal Jewish activism, all these Jewish-dominated "civil liberties groups" will continue to harass and enfeeble the church.

With Christian activism so misdirected, Jewish activism, much more focused and relentless, will continue to prevail.




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[NaT805]

"We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one..."

"The ACLU therefore believes that the Second Amendment does not confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons nor does it prohibit reasonable regulation of gun ownership, such as licensing and registration."

"If we can license and register cars, we can license and register guns."

http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html


I voted negative.

[Pauls' Revere]

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[the_british_are_coming]

Negative, mainly because they are a group of horrible people with horrible agendas.

[MalcolmGandi]

I get the emails, and I haven't disagreed with anything they've sent me yet. Mostly I think they're focusing on wiretapping right now. I think it could be a case of a mostly good organization with some bad apples in powerful positions (basically they haven't totally taken over yet).

[tmosley]

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I support the ACLU, and was thinking about joining.

Actually, if enough people from the Revolution joined, we could reform them just like we are going to reform the Republican Party. I wouldn't mind putting a giant "Under New Management" sign over the door of both institutions.

[yongrel]

Overall, I like them, though they tend to be pretty liberal. Liberal is okay though, since I agree with that occasionally. I like their stance on free speech, secularism, etc. I'm just not a fan of their 2nd Amendment bashing.

[Kade]

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I support the ACLU, and was thinking about joining.

Actually, if enough people from the Revolution joined, we could reform them just like we are going to reform the Republican Party. I wouldn't mind putting a giant "Under New Management" sign over the door of both institutions.

I am a card carrying member of the ACLU, I keep that quiet around here... but there doesn't seem to be too many outlandish uninformed people here... Of course the ACLU supports things people disagree with... people in this country despise liberty.

[acptulsa]

I wish defending the Constitution was all they did--but I'm still glad they do put some effort into doing it.

[jmdrake]

People here appear to misunderstand many things...

I am a member of the ACLU and I think it is one of the most important organizations in existence...

As far as second amendment rights go, they explain here: http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html

I don't consider gun ownership a basic right, but that's me... I do believe the Constitution gives individuals the right.

Very rarely have I disagreed with the organization... I honestly don't think anyone who cares about civil liberties would...

That's their current position. The ACLU was once quite openly hostile to the 2nd amendment even to the point of being racist. See: http://tinyurl.com/24tb7w The case that the Massachusetts ACLU once cited the Cruikshank case (where the KKK was exonerated for violating the 2nd amendment rights of black folks) as paving the way for "rational gun control".

The most fundamental rights are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you don't have a right to self defense how do you defend your right to life?

Note, I used to feel the way you do about gun control.

Regards,

John M. Drake

[jmdrake]

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I support the ACLU, and was thinking about joining.

Actually, if enough people from the Revolution joined, we could reform them just like we are going to reform the Republican Party. I wouldn't mind putting a giant "Under New Management" sign over the door of both institutions.

That's not a bad idea. It fits into G. Edward Griffin's "freedom force (http://www.freedom-force.org/)" idea.

Regards,

John M. Drake

[1836]

I think they do a lot of strange things, but they never do anything to help our government get larger.

So, I'm a member.

[Kade]

That's their current position. The ACLU was once quite openly hostile to the 2nd amendment even to the point of being racist. See: http://tinyurl.com/24tb7w The case that the Massachusetts ACLU once cited the Cruikshank case (where the KKK was exonerated for violating the 2nd amendment rights of black folks) as paving the way for "rational gun control".

The most fundamental rights are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you don't have a right to self defense how do you defend your right to life?

Note, I used to feel the way you do about gun control.

Regards,

John M. Drake

I think that time has proven that the pen is in fact, mightier than the sword. Who here fights for their rights to own firearms with firearms?

[pickdog]

When the ACLU starts defending 2nd amendment rights along with 1st amendment rights I might take them seriously.

But actually they are simply another form of collectivist with their own agenda to push, and it isn't the agenda of individual rights.


bingo!!! and one should check into the POSs that started it...if I recall correctly they were communists

[LibertiORDeth]

Still no response to my question though...

[familydog]

I think they spend way to much time on goofy issues. To much time defending NAMLA's rights and too little time on protecting individual rights of mine and yours.

That about sums it up. Where were they with the Supreme Court's Kelo decision a couple years back? Justice Thomas summed it up when he said eminent domain discriminates based on race and class. Yet they spend time defeding people who want to have sex with little boys. Not that they don't deserve defending, but when they get their priorities straight, maybe I'll join.