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PatriotOne
02-20-2008, 10:42 AM
I go back and forth about posting information like this because I fear it may scare people from participating and being active in the freedom movement. On the other hand, I think everyone should be knowlegable about the risks so that they can make good judgments on how to participate also. Even though I get very frustrated with some on this board, I do value each and every one of you...except for the lying psyop trolls of course.

For those who tend to not believe anything put out by us "conspiracy theorists", here is a rather bold article by the San Franciso Chronicle:

Rule by fear or rule by law?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

Lewis Seiler,Dan Hamburg

Monday, February 4, 2008

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.

According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."

Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of "new programs" require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?

Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist attack or any other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike.

Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a "catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could include everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a single hearing on NSPD-51.

U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (HR1955), which passed the House by the lopsided vote of 404-6, would set up a commission to "examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative recommendations on combatting it.

According to commentary in the Baltimore Sun, Rep. Harman and her colleagues from both sides of the aisle believe the country faces a native brand of terrorism, and needs a commission with sweeping investigative power to combat it.

A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.

What could the government be contemplating that leads it to make contingency plans to detain without recourse millions of its own citizens?

The Constitution does not allow the executive to have unchecked power under any circumstances. The people must not allow the president to use the war on terrorism to rule by fear instead of by law.

Lewis Seiler is the president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former congressman, is executive director.

This article appeared on page B - 7 of the San Francisco Chronicle

WilliamC
02-20-2008, 10:52 AM
I wonder if contributers to Ron Paul's campaign are on the list of "terror suspects"?

Good to see at least some coverage of this in a MSM publication. Too bad it won't get picked up on.

Time for Change
02-20-2008, 11:09 AM
hmmm..."Resistance is Futile"?

I hope this is untrue, I really do.

If you reject the "Chip" are you placed in the concentration camp?
That is what it makes me think of.
Bible type stuff...but I won't preach it.

PatriotOne
02-20-2008, 11:22 AM
I hope this is untrue, I really do.



Which part are you hoping is untrue? You mean the premise that detention camps have been/are being built or something else about the article?

If it's the claim that detention centers are being built, here is an announcement of the contract awarded by KBR:

KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B62C8724D-AE8A-4B5C-94C7-70171315C0A0%7D&dateid=38741.5136277662-858254656

By Katherine Hunt
Last update: 12:19 p.m. EST Jan. 24, 2006

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co. (HAL:Halliburton Company

HAL 36.45, +0.12, +0.3%) , said Tuesday it has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. The maximum total value of the contract is $385 million and consists of a 1-year base period with four 1-year options. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005. The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said. The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster, the company said.

Time for Change
02-20-2008, 11:32 AM
Which part are you hoping is untrue? You mean the premise that detention camps have been/are being built or something else about the article?


a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month


indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies

The camps and train cars are disturbing, but every point in the article disturbs me equally.
Herd 'em up!
I can understand rounding up people that are actually a threat...invading armies, etc, but citizens who protest for a good cause?
So If we continue to speak out against the irresponsible spending and policy of Mr Prez WE are locked up?
That is the end of America (if it ever happens)

So angry I cannot type out a reasonable response right now...let me chew on this for a bit...

WilliamC
02-20-2008, 11:36 AM
Has the article been removed?

I can't load it now...

nevermind, there it is.

Pauliana
02-20-2008, 11:43 AM
The Constitution.

You'll miss that when its gone.

Dr.3D
02-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Here are just a few of the You Tube results of "Security Detention Camps".
They are more properly called "Concentration Camps".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXh7DCptaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ05vt7iURE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5PeWdUSNZ0

slacker921
02-20-2008, 11:59 AM
"I wonder if contributers to Ron Paul's campaign are on the list of "terror suspects"?" .. . most likely.. especially if things get wild at the GOP convention, and the police in St. Paul are expecting unrest and beefed up their arsenal of tasers (http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Police_Order_370_Tasers_For_Republican_Convention) .

Dr.3D
02-20-2008, 12:02 PM
"I wonder if contributers to Ron Paul's campaign are on the list of "terror suspects"?" .. . most likely.. especially if things get wild at the GOP convention, and the police in St. Paul are expecting unrest and beefed up their arsenal of tasers (http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Police_Order_370_Tasers_For_Republican_Convention) .

Make sure you have your coat or shirt lined with conductive material.... example... aluminum foil, soft screen window screen or something of that nature. The electricity will just pass through the conductive material and not hurt your body.

Dieseler
02-20-2008, 12:35 PM
Yeah...
I see the San Fran Chronicle has a lot of clout while Alex Jones is a kook huh.
I've known about this shit for a long time...
Because I listen to a kook.
Wake the fuck up.

New York For Paul
02-20-2008, 12:43 PM
Ron Paul supporters probably are on the list. Several people at CPAC reported that they held a meeting at the Capitol Hill Club in Washington D.C. and two FBI officials showed up and identified themselves and were there to observe a meeting of conservative activists.

The Capitol Hill Club is right next to the Republican National Committee.