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rodent
02-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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Cleaner44
02-16-2008, 05:41 PM
Cindy Sheehan is running as a Democrat in that district.

AJ Antimony
02-16-2008, 05:42 PM
I believe Cindy Sheehan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan) is running against her...

rodent
02-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Sheehan isn't really conservative, though. Should we give her campaign money and set up chip ins?

krott5333
02-16-2008, 05:59 PM
Sheehan isn't really conservative, though. Should we give her campaign money and set up chip ins?

ummmm no

Cleaner44
02-16-2008, 06:01 PM
Sheehan isn't really conservative, though. Should we give her campaign money and set up chip ins?

Sheehan is very liberal. She has finally learn the Dems are corrupt too and now has no faith in the party. She does not quite see the light on Ron Paul but does has a level of respect for him.

I suggest we support a Ron Paul Republican as a first choice.

smitty10
02-16-2008, 06:13 PM
Sheehan is more liberal than Dennis Kucinich. I'd rather kill myself than give money to her.

Kotin
02-16-2008, 06:14 PM
lets beat them both, since the vote is already split, which always helps us lol

Fields
02-16-2008, 06:16 PM
Sheehan is more liberal than Dennis Kucinich. I'd rather kill myself than give money to her.

+1

robmpreston
02-16-2008, 06:25 PM
Sheehan is about as much of a nutjob as there is. Can't believe she'd waste her time running.

Richie
02-16-2008, 06:38 PM
What is Sheehan now? An independent? Green?

smartguy911
02-16-2008, 07:20 PM
why do you guys hate liberals??

smitty10
02-16-2008, 07:21 PM
why do you guys hate liberals??

Because we're conservatives!!

syborius
02-16-2008, 07:23 PM
Sheehan isn't really conservative, though. Should we give her campaign money and set up chip ins?

at least sheehan is principled and wants to fight corruption

AJ Antimony
02-16-2008, 08:19 PM
Although she isn't a Ron Paul Republican, she is the type of honest person we need in Congress. First, she is extremely anti-war which is a huge plus. Second, the reason she is challenging Pelosi is because Pelosi didn't bother trying to impeach Bush. Third, she wants to close Guantanamo. Fourth, she's running as Independent which is respectable. Fifth, she supports a new 9/11 investigation since the last one had soooo many holes and unanswered questions. Lastly, she's running in San Francisco's Congressional district which is more helpful to liberals than conservatives. Do some research before writing off.

Edit: I have faith she would honor the Constitution which is what the Ron Paul Revolution is all about.

james1906
02-16-2008, 08:22 PM
She's a nut, but I would vote for her just to send a message. If SF doesn't vote her in and they keep Pelosi, then it just shows they're a bunch of frauds by the bay.

AdamT
02-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Pelosi absolutely needs to be thrown out on her ass! Sheenan at least has stood up against this criminal administration and called them out as psychopathic murderers and liars. She wants the truth, as we all do, and she even goes on Alex Jones' show. I give Sheenan a lot of credit.....even if she's a liberal. I would would love to see her beat Pelosi. That being said, I would much rather see a Ron Paul Republican beat Pelosi.

bcreps85
02-16-2008, 08:25 PM
Conservatives don't like liberals because liberals are wasteful in their spending, and love stealing money from people to redistribute to other causes. Stealing is wrong.

The fact that she wants to end corruption is good though...but I'd much rather a RP Republican take the spot...but she might be a good second choice =/

weslinder
02-16-2008, 08:26 PM
San Francisco has as much a chance of electing a Liberty-minded Congressman as Lake Jackson does a Communist. Sheehan won't get treated fairly, but she has a lot better chance than a Ron Paul Republican.

rodent
02-16-2008, 08:32 PM
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josh24601
02-16-2008, 08:35 PM
why do you guys hate liberals??

Don't you listen to anything RP says?

Liberal/socialists take your money and property and redistribute it to others as they see fit.

We are against that. We don't like people who want to do it.

What is freedom, when the government takes money away from you, or when it leaves you and your money alone?

Hook
02-16-2008, 08:40 PM
why do you guys hate liberals??

We only hate liberals that try to use the raw force of government to get their way. Liberals that don't use the government, but only direct their own lives according to their beliefs are usually called "philanthropists"

robert4rp08
02-16-2008, 08:44 PM
Don't you listen to anything RP says?

Liberal/socialists take your money and property and redistribute it to others as they see fit.

We are against that. We don't like people who want to do it.

What is freedom, when the government takes money away from you, or when it leaves you and your money alone?

That's going to happen with anyone in politics these days. There are no true conservatives. A stepping stone would be to support a liberal that has some principles that we support until we get a true conservative (Re: Ronpaulican) as a replacement.

Feelgood
02-16-2008, 09:02 PM
Damn, and here I was really hoping Cindy Sheehan might be in next months Playboy issue, oh well. :D

nbhadja
02-16-2008, 09:05 PM
NO TO LIBERALS! They are the worst, trying to turn this country communist!

Run as a liberal, vote as constitutionalist.

PlzPeopleWakeUp
02-16-2008, 09:23 PM
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hopeforamerica
02-16-2008, 09:33 PM
What I dislike is when people call someone a "nut" without backing it up! Haven't we had enough of that? Doesn't it sound familiar at all? Please for the love of freedom, use facts when discussing why you don't like someone's policies!

I don't know enough about Cindy Sheehan one way or the other. I do respect how she has stood up and fought for what she believes is right.

nbhadja
02-16-2008, 09:34 PM
This "I hate liberals" crap is for those WEAK OF MIND. I'll say it AGAIN so it can possibly penetrate your excessively thick skulls.

This "I hate liberals" crap is for those WEAK OF MIND.

I actually have much respect for Cindy, and have been supportive of her. She is an ally to any true freedom fighter, as she is exposing the partisan lie that apparently some idiots around here still subscribe to. We may disagree on some "role of government" issues, but she is firmly against these satanic wars we manufacture and perpetuate, and has been a victim of losses of freedoms through her protesting.

She is to be commended for all of her sacrifices she has made. She has brought more attention to the Anti-War movement then all you "I hate liberals" idiots combined.

Stop being stupid. There are 2 sides to all of these concerning world affairs. GOOD and EVIL.

Which side are you on?

DO THE RIGHT THING. Hating someone in a group or a whole group of people because of a generalization of that group, is the EXACT same thing as racism. WAKE UP FOOLS.

If they are against the wars, are against our criminal government, and are a supporter of freedom, then they should be considered friendlies. Black, white, liberal, anarchist, conservatives, etc - it does not matter if we have a common enemy.

God damn... I cannot wait to wash this republican filth off of me after going to all the conventions in MN since I am a delegate. Just me alone I got over 30 Ron Paul precinct delegates in my area. You people make me sick. I cannot wait to get back to being just a plain old anarchist earthling.

Read the constitution, the liberals violate it left and right just like the neocons do. The whole concept of welfare is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Btw, RP hates the welfare state this country has become.

How in the right mind can I, as a RP supporter support a pro welfare anti- constitution official????

You think RP would ever vote for a liberal or neocon??? Heck no!
There are plenty of RP republicans on the rise running for many positions, I will support them not the libs and neocons.

hopeforamerica
02-16-2008, 09:34 PM
This "I hate liberals" crap is for those WEAK OF MIND. I'll say it AGAIN so it can possibly penetrate your excessively thick skulls.

This "I hate liberals" crap is for those WEAK OF MIND.

I actually have much respect for Cindy, and have been supportive of her. She is an ally to any true freedom fighter, as she is exposing the partisan lie that apparently some idiots around here still subscribe to. We may disagree on some "role of government" issues, but she is firmly against these satanic wars we manufacture and perpetuate, and has been a victim of losses of freedoms through her protesting.

She is to be commended for all of her sacrifices she has made. She has brought more attention to the Anti-War movement then all you "I hate liberals" idiots combined.

Stop being stupid. There are 2 sides to all of these concerning world affairs. GOOD and EVIL.

Which side are you on?

DO THE RIGHT THING. Hating someone in a group or a whole group of people because of a generalization of that group, is the EXACT same thing as racism. WAKE UP FOOLS.

If they are against the wars, are against our criminal government, and are a supporter of freedom, then they should be considered friendlies. Black, white, liberal, anarchist, conservatives, etc - it does not matter if we have a common enemy.

God damn... I cannot wait to wash this republican filth off of me after going to all the conventions in MN since I am a delegate. Just me alone I got over 30 Ron Paul precinct delegates in my area. You people make me sick. I cannot wait to get back to being just a plain old anarchist earthling.

Didn't you just contradict yourself with the "republican filth" comment? :rolleyes:

N13
02-16-2008, 09:43 PM
Give Pelosi the boot. I don't care who is wearing that boot.

Democrats and Republicans are all the same, with few exceptions. Its like arguing which color is better red or blue. Good luck with that one.

PlzPeopleWakeUp
02-16-2008, 09:53 PM
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AJ Antimony
03-16-2008, 11:19 PM
I'm going to bump this thread because I was about to make a new one about it until I used the search feature :D

Anyway, I was going to bring up the possibility of supporting Cindy Sheehan to remove the Speaker of the House after her one term. This would be a HUGE message to the elites that we are sick of the neocon government and their bullshit wars.

Before people start flaming Sheehan for not being a Ron Paul Republican, I will repeat something I've said before and that is that never before in US history has the Congress been 100% composed of a single party. No matter how much we cry and try, we will NEVER have a Congress composed entirely of Ron Paul Republicans. So for those who are not RPRs, who do we want them to be? Neocons who are pro-war and anti-impeachment, or liberals who are anti-war and pro-impeachment?

After all, Ron Paul has said that one of the biggest factors in our economy is our foreign policy.

ronpaulwinna
03-16-2008, 11:53 PM
Lets just oust Pelosi, and for all the people say we shouldnt support Cindy Sheehan because she is a liberal. Well you are probably just not clicking and understanding the situation. For all who dont know and live outside of California, you should understand that San Francisco is one of the most liberal places on the face of the planet. That means no republican will ever become anything elected in the city of 800 Thousand - not even DOG CATCHER!!! So basically this is a strickly democratic town since after the Hippie movement in the 1960's. Why do I know this because I live across the bay and its pretty much the same thing!!!

San Francisco is unique because it places a good situation that Ron Paul Republicans are faceing trying to become delegates elsewhere around the country. Even though San Francisco is a heavily democratic city; its good to note that its divided between the Establishment Democrats (Rich Super Rich people who live in the nice multimillion dollar houses by the Golden Gate Bridge) and Grassroots (Everyday Joes and Janes just like you and me). The Establishment Democrats are just like the republicans that you see in these Conventions at the local and state level, they dont want to hear change or anything that changes the platform of the party. These establishment democrats speak with their pocket books. The mayor of San Francisco (Gavin Newsom) is a multimillionare - owns a 5 star resturant and a Napa winery. He is connected to Establishment aka the Rich.

The Grassroots are unique because they do smaller projects that is worthwhile, also they have a big impact in the city. Speak to the Gay Grassroots and the Bicycle Lobbies. Yeah thats right we have Bike Lobby!!! The Unions are important in the city because pretty much any regular joe can be in one.

Its going to be tough for Sheehan to win this race because of this big split. Even if you dont like her,remember this ... Pelosi failed miserably as the House Speaker!!! Plus giving her money would get attention and probably she can come with an upset against Pelosi (the Establishment). We have to make the forces of change, and we have to unite on trying to change government which is accountable by the people and for the people

Ex Post Facto
03-17-2008, 12:28 AM
I already signed the petition to remove Pelosi from the House. Ironically, the petition was sponsered by Democrats.

AJ Antimony
03-17-2008, 06:57 PM
Lets just oust Pelosi, and for all the people say we shouldnt support Cindy Sheehan because she is a liberal. Well you are probably just not clicking and understanding the situation. For all who dont know and live outside of California, you should understand that San Francisco is one of the most liberal places on the face of the planet. That means no republican will ever become anything elected in the city of 800 Thousand - not even DOG CATCHER!!! So basically this is a strickly democratic town since after the Hippie movement in the 1960's. Why do I know this because I live across the bay and its pretty much the same thing!!!

San Francisco is unique because it places a good situation that Ron Paul Republicans are faceing trying to become delegates elsewhere around the country. Even though San Francisco is a heavily democratic city; its good to note that its divided between the Establishment Democrats (Rich Super Rich people who live in the nice multimillion dollar houses by the Golden Gate Bridge) and Grassroots (Everyday Joes and Janes just like you and me). The Establishment Democrats are just like the republicans that you see in these Conventions at the local and state level, they dont want to hear change or anything that changes the platform of the party. These establishment democrats speak with their pocket books. The mayor of San Francisco (Gavin Newsom) is a multimillionare - owns a 5 star resturant and a Napa winery. He is connected to Establishment aka the Rich.

The Grassroots are unique because they do smaller projects that is worthwhile, also they have a big impact in the city. Speak to the Gay Grassroots and the Bicycle Lobbies. Yeah thats right we have Bike Lobby!!! The Unions are important in the city because pretty much any regular joe can be in one.

Its going to be tough for Sheehan to win this race because of this big split. Even if you dont like her,remember this ... Pelosi failed miserably as the House Speaker!!! Plus giving her money would get attention and probably she can come with an upset against Pelosi (the Establishment). We have to make the forces of change, and we have to unite on trying to change government which is accountable by the people and for the people

I think Sheehan has as good a chance as anyone. One, she has received national media attention. Two, Pelosi hasn't done jack shit as the speaker. Three, there is no question what her view of the Iraq war is. Also because of Pelosi's failures, she can easily run some mild attack ads.

However she is running independent which is admirable, but makes the election harder for her.

kigol
03-17-2008, 07:02 PM
agreed

fedup100
03-17-2008, 07:03 PM
Sheehan is very liberal. She has finally learn the Dems are corrupt too and now has no faith in the party. She does not quite see the light on Ron Paul but does has a level of respect for him.

I suggest we support a Ron Paul Republican as a first choice.

You must be kidding. You will never get that mega rich jew out of that office.....she is in the cat bird seat and loving it. Why do you think Bush put another jew as attorney general.....to block any attempts to impeach him and big dick. When will you guys figure it out for pete's sake. It is like their are horrible alien monsters everywhere but only a few of us can see them and if we try to show it to others, we are ridiculed and shunned as you go about your business while the monsters eat your children.

Tdcci
03-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Cindy Sheehan is interesting. Here's a quote of hers.



Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full well that my son, my family, this nation and this world were betrayed by George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agendas after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy … not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy.


She is anti-war, anti-zionist, and anti-neocon. What more could you want?

liberteebell
03-17-2008, 07:18 PM
Cindy Sheehan is interesting. Here's a quote of hers.

Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full well that my son, my family, this nation and this world were betrayed by George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agendas after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy … not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy.

She is anti-war, anti-zionist, and anti-neocon. What more could you want?


Sounds good to me. And for anyone who thinks she's a nut, her child made the ultimate sacrifice. I'd say that entitles her to some being nutty and emotional.

AJ Antimony
03-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Sounds good to me. And for anyone who thinks she's a nut, her child made the ultimate sacrifice. I'd say that entitles her to some being nutty and emotional.

I'd like to hear how neo-con Pelosi would be a better choice than 100% anti-war Sheehan.

asheville4paul
03-17-2008, 10:05 PM
I read somewhere, a few months ago, that she was dating Lew Rockwell.

Broadlighter
03-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Nancy Pelosi is very popular in Democratic San Francisco. The Dems in SF love the fact that their own is speaker of the house. They're not going to give that up easily.

Only the most virulent anti-war voters will vote for Sheehan. The rest want to make sure their person, Pelosi, retains her seat and her speakership.

Besides her anti-war stance, what else makes Cindy Sheehan a liberal? I've only heard about her anti-war activism.

She was also from Vacaville, which was well outside Pelosi's district. Did she move to SF?

Tdcci
03-17-2008, 11:03 PM
Besides her anti-war stance, what else makes Cindy Sheehan a liberal? I've only heard about her anti-war activism.

On the Issues page on cindyforcongress.org

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/2705/blog/index.jsp?blog_KEY=346 (http://anonym.to/?http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/2705/blog/index.jsp?blog_KEY=346)

AJ Antimony
03-18-2008, 02:57 PM
Nancy Pelosi is very popular in Democratic San Francisco. The Dems in SF love the fact that their own is speaker of the house. They're not going to give that up easily.

Only the most virulent anti-war voters will vote for Sheehan. The rest want to make sure their person, Pelosi, retains her seat and her speakership.

Besides her anti-war stance, what else makes Cindy Sheehan a liberal? I've only heard about her anti-war activism.

She was also from Vacaville, which was well outside Pelosi's district. Did she move to SF?

I think wikipedia says as long as one lives in a state, he or she can run for any of that state's seats in Congress.

LEK
03-18-2008, 04:01 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=129122

RCA
03-18-2008, 05:21 PM
Pelosi is a female Bush, pure evil.

Sheehan isn't Ron Paul, but neither are Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel.

But most importanly, Sheehan isn't an evil female Bush.

I'm willing to donate. I say we pick an anti-war date and money bomb the daylights out of her:

https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/2705/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=1901

AJ Antimony
03-18-2008, 05:28 PM
Pelosi is a female Bush, pure evil.

Sheehan isn't Ron Paul, but neither are Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel.

But most importanly, Sheehan isn't an evil female Bush.

I'm willing to donate. I say we pick an anti-war date and money bomb the daylights out of her:

https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/2705/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=1901

Good analogies and good ideas.

RCA
03-18-2008, 05:39 PM
How about May 26th, Memorial Day?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day

Maybe her campaign will actually put our funds to use, grrr.

Can someone create a website for this?

http://www.penniesforpeace.com/ is available if anyone is interested.

I know there are some GOP stalwarts on this forum that don't like the idea of contributing to a liberal.

In my opinion, if you don't get behind Sheehan, then you are getting behind Pelosi.

Take your pick.

AJ Antimony
03-18-2008, 10:08 PM
How about May 26th, Memorial Day?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day

Maybe her campaign will actually put our funds to use, grrr.

Can someone create a website for this?

http://www.penniesforpeace.com/ is available if anyone is interested.

I know there are some GOP stalwarts on this forum that don't like the idea of contributing to a liberal.

In my opinion, if you don't get behind Sheehan, then you are getting behind Pelosi.

Take your pick.

Remember she doesn't have a primary so if anything it'd probably be better to donate a little closer to the general election. If she gets money now, then it will be forgotten come campaign time. That is of course unless she needs money now for some reason.

Broadlighter
03-19-2008, 04:00 PM
I think wikipedia says as long as one lives in a state, he or she can run for any of that state's seats in Congress.

Then that may be a changed rule. Back in the early 1980s Robert Dornan won the congressional seat for the district where I lived, which was the beach cities in LA. County. It was a heavy defense contractor area with lots of employees of Hughes Aircraft and MacDonnel/Douglas living there.

The area was redistricted and B-1 Bob moved to Orange County, which was then a very safe haven for GOP candidates.

I understand Cindy Sheehan didn't keep her marriage, but I think she must have moved to San Francisco to challenge Nancy Pelosi. I wish her well, but the machine there is very strong.

AJ Antimony
03-19-2008, 04:35 PM
Then that may be a changed rule. Back in the early 1980s Robert Dornan won the congressional seat for the district where I lived, which was the beach cities in LA. County. It was a heavy defense contractor area with lots of employees of Hughes Aircraft and MacDonnel/Douglas living there.

The area was redistricted and B-1 Bob moved to Orange County, which was then a very safe haven for GOP candidates.

I understand Cindy Sheehan didn't keep her marriage, but I think she must have moved to San Francisco to challenge Nancy Pelosi. I wish her well, but the machine there is very strong.

"Sheehan said she lives in a Sacramento suburb but declined to disclose which city, citing safety reasons. The area is outside Pelosi’s district, but there are no residency requirements for congressional members, according to the California secretary of state’s office."

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19665569/)

bucfish
03-19-2008, 04:48 PM
Sheehan is a Moonbat (Sorry I used to listen to Boortz until his betrayal) Get a RP Republican there and charge up the base. A house divided will fail. Sheehan will get what she wants and we get what we want. Another RP Republican in office.

pcosmar
03-19-2008, 05:00 PM
Cindy Sheehan ?
I have heard her speak.
Doesn't California have any intelligent choices?

Pelosi sucks , the Governator is a Rino.
You got choices of bad, worse or ridiculous.
Isn't there another choice?

AJ Antimony
03-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Cindy Sheehan ?
I have heard her speak.
Doesn't California have any intelligent choices?

Pelosi sucks , the Governator is a Rino.
You got choices of bad, worse or ridiculous.
Isn't there another choice?

Can you explain how a strong anti-war, anti-neocon is a bad choice?

AJ Antimony
03-19-2008, 05:36 PM
Sheehan is a Moonbat (Sorry I used to listen to Boortz until his betrayal) Get a RP Republican there and charge up the base. A house divided will fail. Sheehan will get what she wants and we get what we want. Another RP Republican in office.

You think a Republican can win in SF?

Andrew-Austin
03-19-2008, 05:41 PM
Would she support impeachment? Obviously.


Sheehan is a Moonbat (Sorry I used to listen to Boortz until his betrayal) Get a RP Republican there and charge up the base. A house divided will fail. Sheehan will get what she wants and we get what we want. Another RP Republican in office.

She might be a moonbat, but Boortz has always been a stooge.

pcosmar
03-19-2008, 06:08 PM
Can you explain how a strong anti-war, anti-neocon is a bad choice?

Anti-War is good. I hate war also.
But what substance is there beyond that?
Is she going to give the UN a blank check?
Does she support Agenda 21?
How about domestic spending? Universal health care? Sound Money?
2nd Amendment? Border security?Global Taxes? etc?

Sorry but one Pet Peeve, is not enough to outweigh a socialist agenda.

You think a Republican can win in SF?

Don't Know.
Is there anybody there that believes in a Constitutional Republic?
Are the choices so bad that Collectivist is the only choice?
Sad.

HollyforRP
03-19-2008, 07:15 PM
Why do so many people here hate Cindy for? She's against the war so what is the problem? I don't care what you are running as. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian. If you want to restore America espeically by getting us out of this war, I'm supporting you but you better mean it.

AJ Antimony
03-19-2008, 07:32 PM
Anti-War is good. I hate war also.
But what substance is there beyond that?
Is she going to give the UN a blank check?
Does she support Agenda 21?
How about domestic spending? Universal health care? Sound Money?
2nd Amendment? Border security?Global Taxes? etc?

Sorry but one Pet Peeve, is not enough to outweigh a socialist agenda.


Don't Know.
Is there anybody there that believes in a Constitutional Republic?
Are the choices so bad that Collectivist is the only choice?
Sad.

I've said it once and I'll say it again. There has never been a time in this country's history when the United States Congress has been filled with a single party. It has never been 100% Democratic, 100% Republican or 100% anything.

To only accept Ron Paul Republicans, especially in this case, isn't going to help anything. Like it or not, San Francisco is very liberal which means the odds of them electing a Republican is VERY slim. So, in order to restore the Constitution and the prosperity of this country, you're going to have to hold your nose and support some honest and genuine Democrats/Independents.

In this case, the smart thing to do is accept electing a Ron Paul Republican in San Francisco is virtually impossible and instead elect someone who will do more help than harm in the freedom movement. That means to support someone like the 100% anti-war Sheehan over neocon Pelosi.

After all, Ron Paul has said one of the most important factors in the state of our economy is our foreign policy.

pcosmar
03-19-2008, 07:46 PM
I've said it once and I'll say it again. There has never been a time in this country's history when the United States Congress has been filled with a single party. It has never been 100% Democratic, 100% Republican or 100% anything.

This country has had ONE party for almost a hundred years. That needs to change.
I support Ron's choice in trying to take over the Republican party. Other than that I am as disgusted with the "Republicans" as I am the "Democrats".

I view most of the Anti-War crowd as nothing but controlled opposition. I want the wars to end, but that is not going to happen by voting in Democrats.
Vote in reformers or waste your time.

Sheehan has no substance.
I have been to her site, checked "on the issues" and between "my son Casey" and 'I hate Bush" there are no positions.

AJ Antimony
03-19-2008, 08:53 PM
This country has had ONE party for almost a hundred years.

Huh?


Sheehan has no substance.
I have been to her site, checked "on the issues" and between "my son Casey" and 'I hate Bush" there are no positions.

Who gives a shit? One thing she is which very few politicians are is GENUINE. Hell, she's not even a politician! I'd take a genuine, honest person over another politician any day of the week.

Knightskye
03-19-2008, 08:56 PM
Sheehan isn't really conservative, though. Should we give her campaign money and set up chip ins?

I think we should use Ron Paul's stance on foreign policy for this. ;)

pcosmar
03-19-2008, 09:13 PM
I said,

This country has had ONE party for almost a hundred years.

Huh?

The ONE party that has been running this country are the Fabian Socialists. They have controled the Media , the Fed and Both Parties.
I also said.

I have been to her site, checked "on the issues" and between "my son Casey" and 'I hate Bush" there are no positions.



Who gives a shit? One thing she is which very few politicians are is GENUINE. Hell, she's not even a politician! I'd take a genuine, honest person over another politician any day of the week.
How do you know, and for that matter what about her do you know?
What are you voting FOR if she has no positions.
There are a lot of Genuine politicians that are genuinely wrong. What makes her worth supporting or promoting.
I could forgive a candidate that I disagreed with an issue or two, as long as 95% of their issues I agree with.
I am so glad that I don't live in California.

ChickenHawk
03-19-2008, 09:20 PM
Who gives a shit? One thing she is which very few politicians are is GENUINE. Hell, she's not even a politician! I'd take a genuine, honest person over another politician any day of the week.

Whatever. She's just a mother who lost her son and it caused her to lose her mind. That's someone you feel sorry for not someone you vote for.

AJ Antimony
03-19-2008, 09:41 PM
Whatever. She's just a mother who lost her son and it caused her to lose her mind. That's someone you feel sorry for not someone you vote for.

Enjoy Pelosi.

pcosmar
03-19-2008, 09:46 PM
Enjoy Pelosi.

I didn't vote her in either.
Californians did.

AJ Antimony
03-20-2008, 02:07 PM
How do you know, and for that matter what about her do you know?
What are you voting FOR if she has no positions.
There are a lot of Genuine politicians that are genuinely wrong. What makes her worth supporting or promoting.
I could forgive a candidate that I disagreed with an issue or two, as long as 95% of their issues I agree with.
I am so glad that I don't live in California.

I'd vote for her because she won't send me to a pointless war. She'd also work to impeach a bastard president if he violated the Constitution and committed war crimes and the like.