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Chester Copperpot
02-16-2008, 05:29 AM
Ive been a subscriber to Mises for a couple years, I thought this a grand analysis of the conspiracy minded person. Its a good read to understand the reasoning of this thought process and its a positive both ways.

Example, heres a section of it:

Far from being a paranoid or a determinist, the conspiracy analyst is a praxeologist; that is, he believes that people act purposively, that they make conscious choices to employ means in order to arrive at goals. Hence, if a steel tariff is passed, he assumes that the steel industry lobbied for it; if a public works project is created, he hypothesizes that it was promoted by an alliance of construction firms and unions who enjoyed public works contracts, and bureaucrats who expanded their jobs and incomes. It is the opponents of "conspiracy" analysis who profess to believe that all events — at least in government —are random and unplanned, and that therefore people do not engage in purposive choice and planning.


http://www.mises.org/story/2809

Joe3113
02-16-2008, 05:58 AM
I call them "anti-conspiracy nutcases".

linusPAULing
02-16-2008, 06:13 AM
There's been a conspiracy to condition us into not believing in conspiracies. This might be the most insidious conspiracy of all time.

constituent
02-16-2008, 06:17 AM
There's been a conspiracy to condition us into not believing in conspiracies. This might be the most insidious conspiracy of all time.

no!!!!!!!

::betrayed again by mel gibson, loser::

linusPAULing
02-16-2008, 06:38 AM
no!!!!!!!

::betrayed again by mel gibson, loser::

You prove my point beautifully :)

Truth Warrior
02-16-2008, 06:44 AM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conspiracy
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conspiracy%20theory

http://www.reference.com/search?q=conspiracy%20theory

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt ( he would know <IMHO> :) )

jsgolfman
02-16-2008, 07:08 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3100752722910819372&q=Larry+McDonald+Crossfire&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

ButchHowdy
02-16-2008, 07:10 AM
So . . . eh . . . if I became an avid praxeologist, studied dilligently, paid my dues, what would the future hold for me? What would be the next promotable position?

Rhys
02-16-2008, 07:48 AM
So . . . eh . . . if I became an avid praxeologist, studied dilligently, paid my dues, what would the future hold for me? What would be the next promotable position?

it's not a job, it's a mindset. If you pay your dues you'll get promoted at work.

expatriot
02-16-2008, 08:16 AM
What the Hell is Praxeology? (http://praxeology.net/praxeo.htm)

The scientific rendition of conspiracy theory. :cool::eek::cool:

The problem with that is that praxeologists fail to perceive the threads that link events.
Using a sterile clinical approach they miss the underlying currents that move the ships of state.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they feel an urgent need to blame some
specific person or cabal for what is in reality the acts of a spirit (not in the theological sense)

The truth is out there - trust me. (just don't take my word for it go look for yourself.)

Geronimo
02-16-2008, 10:30 AM
There's been a conspiracy to condition us into not believing in conspiracies. This might be the most insidious conspiracy of all time.

I agree 100%. To think that conspiracies don't exist is just plain ignorant.

Truth Warrior
02-16-2008, 10:39 AM
What the Hell is Praxeology? (http://praxeology.net/praxeo.htm)

The scientific rendition of conspiracy theory. :cool::eek::cool:

The problem with that is that praxeologists fail to perceive the threads that link events.
Using a sterile clinical approach they miss the underlying currents that move the ships of state.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they feel an urgent need to blame some
specific person or cabal for what is in reality the acts of a spirit (not in the theological sense)

The truth is out there - trust me. (just don't take my word for it go look for yourself.)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/praxeology

TruthAtLast
02-16-2008, 02:16 PM
There's been a conspiracy to condition us into not believing in conspiracies. This might be the most insidious conspiracy of all time.

That is my new quote of the day. :)

BigRedBrent
02-16-2008, 02:50 PM
There's been a conspiracy to condition us into not believing in conspiracies. This might be the most insidious conspiracy of all time.

LOL, I love it, even if it is true, this comment is priceless.

CorkyAgain
02-16-2008, 04:16 PM
In the article cited, Rothbard also noted two characteristics of the "bad" kind of conspiracy analyst:


The bad conspiracy analyst tends to make two kinds of mistakes, which indeed leave him open to the Establishment charge of "paranoia." First, he stops with the cui bono; if measure A benefits X and Y, he simply concludes that therefore X and Y were responsible. He fails to realize that this is just a hypothesis, and must be verified by finding out whether or not X and Y really did so. (Perhaps the wackiest example of this was the British journalist Douglas Reed who, seeing that the result of Hitler's policies was the destruction of Germany, concluded, without further evidence, that therefore Hitler was a conscious agent of external forces who deliberately set out to ruin Germany.) Secondly, the bad conspiracy analyst seems to have a compulsion to wrap up all the conspiracies, all the bad guy power blocs, into one giant conspiracy. Instead of seeing that there are several power blocs trying to gain control of government, sometimes in conflict and sometimes in alliance, he has to assume – again without evidence – that a small group of men controls them all, and only seems to send them into conflict.

9-11 Truthers sometimes seem to show the first characteristic. Because the events of 9-11 worked to the benefit of the neocons and their schemes for remaking the Middle East, they insinuate that the neocons must therefore have planned the attack.

Examples of the second characteristic are all too familiar. It's all the bankers' fault. No, it's the Freemasons. No, it's the Zionists. No, you fools, it's Satan!

Chester Copperpot
02-16-2008, 06:30 PM
That is my new quote of the day. :)

yeah me too.. I love that quote.

Chester Copperpot
02-16-2008, 06:32 PM
In the article cited, Rothbard also noted two characteristics of the "bad" kind of conspiracy analyst:



9-11 Truthers sometimes seem to show the first characteristic. Because the events of 9-11 worked to the benefit of the neocons and their schemes for remaking the Middle East, they insinuate that the neocons must therefore have planned the attack.

Examples of the second characteristic are all too familiar. It's all the bankers' fault. No, it's the Freemasons. No, it's the Zionists. No, you fools, it's Satan!


In response to this part of your text.. Whether its the freemasons, illumniati, etc.. whomever.. One thing I will say is that they are financed from the worlds private central banks...

kill the banks
02-16-2008, 07:00 PM
So . . . eh . . . if I became an avid praxeologist, studied dilligently, paid my dues, what would the future hold for me? What would be the next promotable position?

1st question : praxeologist & son

2nd question : God

kill the banks

CorkyAgain
02-16-2008, 07:31 PM
In response to this part of your text.. Whether its the freemasons, illumniati, etc.. whomever.. One thing I will say is that they are financed from the worlds private central banks...

You mean they borrow money from the bank and keep a checking account there too? Wow, that's insidious. :eek:

I think Rothbard had it right. There isn't one gang pulling all the strings. There are many gangs competing to get ahold of the strings and pull them.

If the bankers decide to finance one of these gangs, it doesn't necessarily mean they're in cahoots with them. It just means the bankers think it serves their own purposes.

Mach
02-16-2008, 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by linusPAULing
"There's been a conspiracy to condition us into not believing in conspiracies. This might be the most insidious conspiracy of all time."


Watch this, that's what it says too.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rPQCPwdwHQ

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PNAC declares itself to be dedicated to the fundamental propositions that:

* American leadership is good both for America and for the world;
* that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle;
* that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership; [and]
* that the United States Government should capitalise on its military and economic superiority to gain unchallengeable superiority through all means necessary, including military.
* A Pearl Harbor type event is required to catalyze this policy.
* Use of biological agents that can target specific groups is required.


http://exodus2006.com/9_11PNAC.htm

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Mach
02-16-2008, 09:56 PM
Here is a good overall, connects the dot kinda, good points to think about video, how many coincidences can you blow off before you question the problems.

A good example...... why would supposed terrorist send the two politicians that were AGAINST the Patriot Act, Anthrax in the mail? Out of all the people to pick, those two get it!

The Patriot Act was ready to go 2 weeks after 9/11, over 300 pages of very technical law wrote and approved in 2 weeks, no way, it was ready to go before 9/11 ever happened.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5224963246223576086&hl=en