View Full Version : Did I read this correctly!?!?!?
timnavarro
02-15-2008, 03:58 PM
Sorry if it's old news, but I just found this:
HOUSTON, TEXAS (FEB. 15, 2008) – The Greater Houston Partnership has converted the candidate portion of its Feb. 28 Houston’s Presidential Summit into a format that will allow direct and substantive speeches by the candidates.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-NY, and Rep. Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, have agreed to participate and deliver addresses before a large audience and on national television. MSNBC has agreed to cover the event and has the capability to take the candidates' speeches live coast to coast.
The event, “America’s Energy Future: Houston’s Presidential Summit,” is hosted by The Greater Houston Partnership.
“We believe this format will provide much more in-depth and substantive exploration of vital issues such as energy that are paramount to voters here and throughout the United States,” said Jeff Moseley, president and chief executive officer of the Greater Houston Partnership. “Also, not all of the candidates were able to participate in a debate format, and this change makes it possible for any and all leading candidates to attend.”
Houston has become pivotal to the heated Texas primary, which takes place on March 4, just days after Houston’s Presidential Summit.
“We’re very pleased that Sen. Clinton and Congressman Paul see the importance of coming to Houston, the world’s energy capital, to discuss America’s energy future,” said Moseley. “We hope other candidates will accept our invitation to be here as well.”
Houston’s Presidential Summit is just part of what will be a daylong event. It will also feature a luncheon with a keynote address by an internationally-recognized guest, an energy symposium that will headline world-renowned speakers and energy executives, and an array of energy-related exhibits furnished by leading energy suppliers that showcase cutting-edge technologies and innovations.
So it's just Dr. Paul vs. Hillary? And they're making it more fair with longer speaking times?!?! It's too good to be true....someone please burst my bubble before I get too giddy.
--Tim
kathy88
02-15-2008, 03:59 PM
THIS ROCKS. He will chew her up and spit her out.
LibertyEagle
02-15-2008, 04:00 PM
If this is true, I think I'll faint dead away.
idiom
02-15-2008, 04:00 PM
It works for her because she is trailing too.
mudburn
02-15-2008, 04:02 PM
He will chew her up and spit her out.
That's disgusting! :eek: How would he ever get the awful taste out of his mouth? :rolleyes:
dp
dvictr
02-15-2008, 04:04 PM
McCain wont go
IPSecure
02-15-2008, 04:05 PM
Oh Yeah!
Paulitical Correctness
02-15-2008, 04:05 PM
Ron Paul vs. Hitlery
Amazing, amazing.
billjarrett
02-15-2008, 04:06 PM
“America’s Energy Future: Houston’s Presidential Summit,”
Umm.. Is this our strong suit?
AlbemarleNC0003
02-15-2008, 04:08 PM
“America’s Energy Future: Houston’s Presidential Summit,”
Umm.. Is this our strong suit?
He's already submitted legislation.
Government regulations, taxes, and corporate subsidies have distorted the energy market, causing some prices to rise above what they would be in the free market, while artificially lowering other prices and discouraging conservation. The costs of energy subsidies are hidden in your tax bill so the government can silently withhold them from your wallet with each paycheck.
As president, I will work to restore a free-market in energy. In particular, I will work with Congress to repeal federal regulations and taxes that impede the development of new energy sources. Such policies give government bureaucrats the power to pick winners and losers, and cause resources to be devoted to those producers with the most political clout rather than to the producers who are best able to meet the needs of consumers. Alternative sources should prove their viability in the free market. Any source that truly is cheaper and cleaner, yet still reliable, will not need government help to develop or sell.
Returning to a free market in energy will encourage conservation as well as the development of new forms of energy. In a free market, conservation occurs naturally when property rights are strictly enforced to prevent pollution and because resources become more costly as they become scarcer.
I have cosponsored legislation designed to encourage the development of alternative energy. H.R. 550 extends the investment tax credit to solar energy property and qualified fuel cell property, and H.R. 1772 provides tax credits for the installation of wind energy property.
Nuclear energy can also provide the American people with a reliable and environmentally sound alternative. Therefore, I will repeal federal regulations that hinder the development of nuclear energy. However, I will also repeal all federal subsidies and privileges granted the nuclear industry. Nuclear power should prove its worth in the free-market.
Clean, safe, and reliable energy is far too important to leave to the political whims of Washington bureaucrats.
Shink
02-15-2008, 04:09 PM
“Also, not all of the candidates were able to participate in a debate format, and this change makes it possible for any and all leading candidates to attend.”
Key phrase, I think. It's probably going to be several separate speeches. If it was a debate, Hillary would NEVER go up against Ron. She fuckin' KNOWS he would seriously shit on her face.
pacelli
02-15-2008, 04:09 PM
Source: http://www.houston.org/media/pdfs/SummitCandidateSpeakers.pdf
s35wf
02-15-2008, 04:10 PM
This is great! I really hope Paul's entire speech is aired. Awesome!
Ron Paul 2008!
billjarrett
02-15-2008, 04:11 PM
Ok, I didn't know he had legislation on it, and would have assumed it was similar to the above.
But, will joe six pack get this? You know Hillary is going to have a dumbed down "We need to get off oil and go to renewable sources because its better for the environment and everyone" with no real substance.
I just hope he nails it in a way that the voters we haven't been connecting with can grasp.
pacelli
02-15-2008, 04:11 PM
It is only a 1-hour event according to the RP2008 campaign page: 9p - 10p.
nullvalu
02-15-2008, 04:11 PM
I just says that they'll deliver addresses on the issue. Will it be an actual debate/forum or are they just giving speeches?
nbhadja
02-15-2008, 04:14 PM
bump
timnavarro
02-15-2008, 04:14 PM
“America’s Energy Future: Houston’s Presidential Summit,”
Umm.. Is this our strong suit?
I think so. Dr. Paul has pointed out the inefficiency of ethanol from corn and how it's only worth it to process the corn into ethanol if you're subsidizing it. Without government subsidies, it costs more to make the ethanol than the ethanol's worth. I waited a year for it, but he finally added on the drastically better efficiency of ethanol production from hemp. It is impossible to do now, though, because even non-THC hemp is illegal to grow in the U.S., but it is legal to import it from other countries. I personally did the math, and we could supply the entire nation with fuel growing hemp on 3/4 of the land that the government is currently PAYING farmers not to grow on. It's my little energy solution and Dr. Paul is the only politician to ever speak the truth on the matter. I wish I could get a message to Dr. Paul, though. I feel that the hemp issue could lead to his position on the drug war, and I never wanted that broadly broadcasted. The sheeple just aren't ready for it. If someone could tell him to substitute sugarcane for the hemp, he could use the same example. The only problem is that we don't have enough land with a suitable climate for the scale of sugarcane production that we would require. The sheep don't know that, though, and the only ones who could call him on that are the other candidates/moderators, and I doubt they'd be informed enough to point out that problem. Then Dr. Paul wouldn't have to even bring up hemp.
--Tim
tom4ronpaul08
02-15-2008, 04:22 PM
it would be sad and funny because DR paul would be asking Hillery all of the in dept questions about how she would fix things, and hillery would be a broken record of saying free health care, free school and more jobs, all things she can not make good on ...
UtahApocalypse
02-15-2008, 04:34 PM
$10 that MSNBC will cover Hillary but not Paul
WRellim
02-15-2008, 04:38 PM
Yeah, but they just won't broadcast the Ron Paul portion. (Well, maybe some 10 second snippet or two that they can use to make him sound "wacko").
So whatever he REALLY says won't be heard by anyone outside that hall.
Live Free or Die
02-15-2008, 04:40 PM
This will be huge for Ron Paul. Hillary (and Obama & McCain, if they ever accept) can not provide any "direct and substantive" speech on this topic whatsoever. Maybe she'll cry again.
BTW- Thanks, OP, it's not old news to me. :cool:
Agora
02-15-2008, 04:42 PM
If this is true, I think I'll faint dead away.
:eek: youtube
/not you, fainting ;)/
linusPAULing
02-15-2008, 04:49 PM
I would be shocked to see this televised in its entirety. Per usual, I'll hope for the best, expect the worst.
CrazyRonPaulSupporter
02-15-2008, 04:56 PM
I really hope this is going to happen. If they want, why not let the other communist (Obama) up on stage so we can shred him too.
No matter what Ron Paul will kick butt!! Onwards and upwards!
:)
On the theme of fainting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg&feature=related
:D
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txrep
02-15-2008, 04:58 PM
This is NOT a debate. They will be speaking at different times (about an hour apart from each other). Huckabee will be attending as well now per the Houston Cronicle.
Agora
02-15-2008, 05:31 PM
If this is true, I think I'll faint dead away.
I do hope you are OK :D:p
bcreps85
02-15-2008, 05:40 PM
THIS ROCKS. He will chew her up and spit her out.
I hope not. He'd catch some disease and die...maybe that is their plan?
RlxdN10sity
02-15-2008, 06:52 PM
The way this reads to me is that each candidate will either submit a pre-recorded speech or give the speech live at the event, but will not be debating other candidates.
kirkblitz
02-15-2008, 06:57 PM
CNN is having a debate in ohio at the exact same time, so they will invite huck and mccain probly. CNN is having a dem debate the day before this one.
hellsingfan
02-15-2008, 10:36 PM
This may not be the best thing you know, because alot people want the GOVERNMENT to make subsidize to make us energy independent, while Ron Paul wants FREE MARKET!! So our message may not ring well with these people, but I sure hope they convert and understand the sensibleness of RP's plan! I have my finger crossed that Americans aren't dumb!
NEPA_Revolution
02-15-2008, 10:40 PM
I dont think the average American is dumb, just brainwashed.
kathy88
02-15-2008, 10:51 PM
$10 that MSNBC will cover Hillary but not Paul
Perhaps we should start emailing them now making it known that we expect to see his entire speech?
Nothing crazy, just, "hey, as a registered republican, I would really be interested in hearing Paul's views on this, I would hope this will be aired in its entirety"
blah blah blah
Ninja Homer
02-15-2008, 10:51 PM
This may not be the best thing you know, because alot people want the GOVERNMENT to make subsidize to make us energy independent, while Ron Paul wants FREE MARKET!! So our message may not ring well with these people, but I sure hope they convert and understand the sensibleness of RP's plan! I have my finger crossed that Americans aren't dumb!
If this election has shown me anything, it's that Americans are dumb. Regardless, at this point, any air time is good air time.
alaric
02-15-2008, 11:02 PM
reminds me of the cartoon i saw once where Ron had hillary over his knee and was spanking her!:D
pacelli
02-15-2008, 11:09 PM
Perhaps we should start emailing them now making it known that we expect to see his entire speech?
Nothing crazy, just, "hey, as a registered republican, I would really be interested in hearing Paul's views on this, I would hope this will be aired in its entirety"
blah blah blah
I agree, I wonder if there is a contact email address?
TexFootballMom
02-15-2008, 11:26 PM
Ok, I didn't know he had legislation on it, and would have assumed it was similar to the above.
But, will joe six pack get this? You know Hillary is going to have a dumbed down "We need to get off oil and go to renewable sources because its better for the environment and everyone" with no real substance.
I just hope he nails it in a way that the voters we haven't been connecting with can grasp.
Houston & Dallas Tx joe six pack will get it. And the big energy fellows.
Problem is, that the folks in Perry's pockets don't want Paul in. Paul would put a stop to their "pet projects".
flames2dust77
02-15-2008, 11:32 PM
$10 that MSNBC will cover Hillary but not Paul
I'll raise it.
$20
TruthAtLast
02-15-2008, 11:36 PM
Do any of you get the feeling that RP is getting a kind of backhanded nod, now that they think there is no way he can win? Almost as if the Media is saying "see, we're fair and unbiased" after the damage is done.
I'm not going to harp on a third party bid and Dr. Paul has explicitly said that he doesn't want to run as a third party, however, maybe the fact that he's said that makes him less of a threat and therefore less likely to dismissed by the media?
When he was winning straw polls, online polls, debates, and breaking fund raising records a month ago he was a huge threat. But now they seem to be giving him a little more credit.
But if this DID continue and the Media started to warm to him (when I say warm, I just mean not a complete blackout) wouldn't this actually be the perfect opportunity to slip under the radar, get as much press as he can, get his message out, then announce a 3rd party run? Hypothetically speaking of course.... :D
I've been hearing a lot of people that have buyers remorse. They voted for McCain and how regret it after finding out more information. Likewise, many of the people who liked Romney are now conflicted because of his endorsement of McCain.
So McCain's support could be over-inflated and I think all of us realize that Ron Paul's support is DRASTICALLY under-estimated by the mere fact that many people don't even know who he is. Every day people are finding out about RP and are converted. The problem is that it is too late for many of these people as they have already voted in the Primary. In a General Election, things could get real interesting..... again.... hypothetically speaking. haha
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