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chiplitfam
02-15-2008, 11:54 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080215/ap_on_go_co/terrorist_surveillance

Ex Post Facto
02-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Well look what the congressional committee member on national security wrote Bush in his response to that.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Intel_chair_to_Bush_on_FISA_0214.html

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
02-15-2008, 01:24 PM
Well look what the congressional committee member on national security wrote Bush in his response to that.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Intel_chair_to_Bush_on_FISA_0214.html

Here's a quote from it...


First, NSA can use its authority under Executive Order 12333 to conduct surveillance abroad of any known or suspected terrorist. There is no requirement for a warrant. There is no requirement for probable cause. Most of NSA's collection occurs under this authority.

Second, NSA can use its authority under the Protect America Act, enacted last August, to conduct surveillance here in the U.S of any foreign target. This authority does not "expire" on Saturday, as you have stated. Under the PAA, orders authorizing surveillance may last for one year – until at least August 2008. These orders may cover every terrorist group without limitation. If a new member of the group is identified, or if a new phone number or email address is identified, the NSA may add it to the existing orders, and surveillance can begin immediately. We will not "go dark."

Third, in the remote possibility that a new terrorist organization emerges that we have never previously identified, the NSA could use existing authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to monitor those communications. Since its establishment nearly 30 years ago, the FISA Court has approved nearly every application for a warrant from the Department of Justice.

My translation: So, as you can see Mr. President, we have numerous ways to legally spy on people without a warrant. We won't do anything to stop you from that, but we're starting to think we might not want our grimy political hands on more of the same.

life_boy
02-15-2008, 01:25 PM
Wow. That's quite a letter from Congressman Reyes.


If our nation is left vulnerable in the coming months, it will not be because we don't have enough domestic spying powers. It will be because your Administration has not done enough to defeat terrorist organizations – including al Qaeda -- that have gained strength since 9/11. We do not have nearly enough linguists to translate the reams of information we currently collect. We do not have enough intelligence officers who can penetrate the hardest targets, such as al Qaeda. We have surged so many intelligence resources into Iraq that we have taken our eye off the ball in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As a result, you have allowed al Qaeda to reconstitute itself on your watch.