would you do what it takes to prevent a McCain presidency?

[quantized]

If RP does not secure the nomination at brokered convention, not only i will not vote for McCain, i will go against him by voting for his opponent i.e. democrat nominee. YES! call me whatever you want! i do not want a warmonger to be my president and i want the GOP to shit in their pants since they pick a nominee more liberal than the democratic nominee.

give a shout out in this thread if you feel like i do.

[mexicanpizza]

I'm very torn.

I want to "make a difference" with my vote. Writing in Ron Paul in CA just means my ballot gets tossed unread. Voting for Hillbama makes a statement.

The GOP is done already with 1/5th the turnout of the Dems...

[TheWhiteRider]

obama ftw

[MikeStanart]

obama ftw

If you guys think Obama is going to be better than Mccain.... you guys have got another thing coming to you.

IMO, Ron Paul write in.

[quantized]

If you guys think Obama is going to be better than Mccain.... you guys have got another thing coming to you.


yes, obama/hillary better than mccain

[WilliamC]

www.gopoteaparty.com

And vote for Ron Paul even if you have to write him in.

[billjarrett]

If you guys think Obama is going to be better than Mccain.... you guys have got another thing coming to you.

IMO, Ron Paul write in.

I'm going to do this, or vote 3rd party if someone reasonable is running. My state goes Democratic pretty much 100% of the time, so my vote in the general is pretty much for giggles.

Anyways, I was thinking about this on my way to work. Since we have a large group of people without representation, why not start a "Lesser of two evils is still evil" group or PAC or something.

[slacker921]

Write in RP.. Obama or Hillary will beat McCain anyway without us. It'll be a landslide.

[terlinguatx]

...

[thoughtbombing]

I'll vote liberatarian. You're a traitor if you vote for either hillary or obama

THE NEW MANTRA.

[davidkachel]

If you vote for the democratic nominee no one will ever know you would have voted Republican. The only possible way to send a message to the Republican party is to write in Ron Paul. Those votes will be counted and the Republicans will know exactly what that vote means.

If you vote for any other candidate they will think your vote was a vote they never could have had in the first place. In other words, they will continue to think their way is the right way.

[LukeNM]

We need to write in Ron Paul -- it will help later down the road. Any of the other candidates won’t matter. They are all the same to some degree and Congress will run the show. I just wish we had an insider to the Dems to know what mud they will be slinging at McCain so we can use it now rather than after (if he is the nominee that is) which and hope, pray will not be the case and am fighting against.

The old media is supporting him so you know he does not have a chance, in their minds, to beat the dems. It will be a full on attack from many sides.

[quantized]

If you vote for the democratic nominee no one will ever know you would have voted Republican. The only possible way to send a message to the Republican party is to write in Ron Paul. Those votes will be counted and the Republicans will know exactly what that vote means.


OK. granted that this is at least a good and valid point worth considering.

But i would think McCain suffering a devastating defeat is also a strong message of the failure of GOP

[krott5333]

im voting for Ron Paul either way

[Enano1983]

It's still too early for me to make up my mind.
I will fight toot and nail for RP until the day he says "enough", but if it looked like McCain might win I would vote O'bilary. If it was a clear-cut landslide I would vote for the most viable third-party/Indy candidate if they talked sense, or write in RP as a protest vote.

Also remember: write-ins aren't usually counted seperately but are all lumped under "other"

[Cleaner44]

I will vote and I will not vote for the GOP candidate if it is not Ron Paul.

[LPrime]

I can't understand all this talk of voting against someone. If you are a Dr. Paul supporter you should write him in. There is no section of the voting ballot that lets you choose who you DON'T want to be president.

[thoughtbombing]

OK. granted that this is at least a good and valid point worth considering.

But i would think McCain suffering a devastating defeat is also a strong message of the failure of GOP

he'll still go down in defeat... we're really at LEAST 20% of the party, and a good portion of dems will flee the party and vote for RP over Hillary. I GUARANTEE IT

[pcosmar]

I will write in Ron Paul. Nomination or Write in He has my vote.
I can not vote for McCain.
I will not vote Democrat.

If McCain is Nominated the democrats will win the election.
He could not stand up to either one of them in a debate. He is an idiot. They will chew him up and spit him out.

Or several million could write in Ron Paul, and take the country back.
Can you say mandate.?

[dawnbt]

If you vote for the democratic nominee no one will ever know you would have voted Republican. The only possible way to send a message to the Republican party is to write in Ron Paul. Those votes will be counted and the Republicans will know exactly what that vote means.

If you vote for any other candidate they will think your vote was a vote they never could have had in the first place. In other words, they will continue to think their way is the right way.

What he said!

[bulloncoins]

I can't imagine any true Ron Paul supporter voting for the dem nominee.

:cool:

[thoughtbombing]

I can't imagine any true Ron Paul supporter voting for the dem nominee.

:cool:


they are people, just like everyone else.. only an IDIOT would vote for anyone but Ron Paul... common sense is QUITE uncommon.

[Shink]

If RP does not secure the nomination at brokered convention, not only i will not vote for McCain, i will go against him by voting for his opponent i.e. democrat nominee. YES! call me whatever you want! i do not want a warmonger to be my president and i want the GOP to shit in their pants since they pick a nominee more liberal than the democratic nominee.

give a shout out in this thread if you feel like i do.

Don't be an idiot. Look AT FUCKING VOTING RECORDS! There is not a Democrat who is NOT a warmonger still in the running. I swear, don't piss me off.:mad: Vote for someone legitimately against the war. If you'd been in that hellhole, Iraq, like me, you would NEVER consider voting for someone who merely pretends to be against the war.

Think about this. You fucking KNOW you're voting for a total socialist fraud with Obama and Billary. Voting Dem right now IS WARMONGERING. Don't be a warmonger, comrade. :mad::mad::mad:

[danielboon]

if i have to I will write ron in.

[Banana]

Here's a better alternative.

Be a delegate to your state and national convention.

You may be bound to other candidates, but once nomination has been made, you're free to make any sort of motions, and if enough RP people are delegates, we can essentially chain the nominee to Paul's message and thus Paul will have won.

[Revolution9]

yes, obama/hillary better than mccain

Nope.. Same crime cabal. 58 top Mafia who got arrested last week are at this moment turning over on the Bushes, The Clintons, Obama, and McCain. They are all guilty of major financial shenanigans that could land them in jail for years. Your strategy is dead flat wrong. You are doing the PTB's bidding, witting or unwittingly. Obama is controlled by Brezinski.. Main NWO head honcho. His financier is skull and bones. You run from Bush and McCain right into a bear trap of more of the same.

Stop messing with our supporters.

Thanks
Randy

[Shink]

he'll still go down in defeat... we're really at LEAST 20% of the party, and a good portion of dems will flee the party and vote for RP over Hillary. I GUARANTEE IT

I don't thinks we're that much of the party anymore. I think our numbers are dashed, and people like Quantized are the kind of people who jumped ship early. How idiotic for a RON PAUL SUPPORTER to think that their vote represents a VOTE AGAINST someone. You vote FOR what you believe in! Fuck, I hope people like him get drafted and live what I lived not long ago in the Army. McCain, Clinton, Obama all represent PERMANENT WARFARE, DRAFT (AKA SLAVERY), COMMUNISM, DISSOLUTION OF SOVEREIGNTY. I'm so goddamn angry. Please, get drafted, please.

[yongrel]

I hate these posts so much.

Stop shilling for Obama. Either you're here for Ron Paul or you're not.

[thoughtbombing]

I don't thinks we're that much of the party anymore. I think our numbers are dashed, and people like Quantized are the kind of people who jumped ship early. How idiotic for a RON PAUL SUPPORTER to think that their vote represents a VOTE AGAINST someone. You vote FOR what you believe in! Fuck, I hope people like him get drafted and live what I lived not long ago in the Army. McCain, Clinton, Obama all represent PERMANENT WARFARE, DRAFT (AKA SLAVERY), COMMUNISM, DISSOLUTION OF SOVEREIGNTY. I'm so goddamn angry. Please, get drafted, please.

I believe the term for what we do to people who no longer support the cause, leaders who can't lead, potential commanders in chief who need to be stopped before being elected... is FRAGGING.

Whose with me?

[Revolution9]

I don't thinks we're that much of the party anymore. I think our numbers are dashed, and people like Quantized are the kind of people who jumped ship early. How idiotic for a RON PAUL SUPPORTER to think that their vote represents a VOTE AGAINST someone. You vote FOR what you believe in! Fuck, I hope people like him get drafted and live what I lived not long ago in the Army. McCain, Clinton, Obama all represent PERMANENT WARFARE, DRAFT (AKA SLAVERY), COMMUNISM, DISSOLUTION OF SOVEREIGNTY. I'm so goddamn angry. Please, get drafted, please.

I am glad someone is laying the hammer down on this crap.

Randy

[Revolution9]

if i have to I will write ron in.

Welcome aboard. I am sure that as by attrition the sunday morning patriots will fall to be replaced by real patriots who understand what is at stake here..

best regards
Randy

[jdmetz]

If you guys think Obama is going to be better than Mccain.... you guys have got another thing coming to you.

IMO, Ron Paul write in.

Obama would be much better than McCain. That said, we will never have viable 3rd parties in this country if even the people who support them won't vote for them.

[billjarrett]

Also remember: write-ins aren't usually counted seperately but are all lumped under "other"

I guess we just have to make our slogan "Other for President!"

I personally would love to see other win. Whether it be for Ron Paul or someone else.

Hmm.. Maybe we could get a big campaign going along the lines of:

"Are you angry with both your choices for president this year? Show your disenfranchisement, write in 'Other'"

[quantized]

Fuck, I hope people like him get drafted and live what I lived not long ago in the Army. McCain, Clinton, Obama all represent PERMANENT WARFARE, DRAFT (AKA SLAVERY), COMMUNISM, DISSOLUTION OF SOVEREIGNTY. I'm so goddamn angry. Please, get drafted, please.

Exactly. It is for the reason of the very likelihood of a McCain draft that i will vote against him. i repeat again! I WILL VOTE AGAINST HIM!!!

[98Tokay]

Exactly. It is for the reason of the very likelihood of a McCain draft that i will vote against him. i repeat again! I WILL VOTE AGAINST HIM!!!

The only way to waste your vote is to vote.

[BuddyRey]

If RP does not secure the nomination at brokered convention, not only i will not vote for McCain, i will go against him by voting for his opponent i.e. democrat nominee. YES! call me whatever you want! i do not want a warmonger to be my president and i want the GOP to shit in their pants since they pick a nominee more liberal than the democratic nominee.

give a shout out in this thread if you feel like i do.

My answer: ONLY if that Democratic nominee is Mike Gravel. Otherwise, I'd only be playing into the elite's carefully constructed Hegelian Dialectic, which I refuse to do. I will NEVER AGAIN vote for the "lesser of two evils".

If Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee, I will STILL write him in!

[Ara825]

I refuse to vote for McCain, Clinton or Obama.
I'm writing in Ron Paul if that is the only way I can vote for him.

[Shink]

Exactly. It is for the reason of the very likelihood of a McCain draft that i will vote against him. i repeat again! I WILL VOTE AGAINST HIM!!!


You are NOT reading my post. I repeat again! McCain=Hillary=Obama. Vote FOR someone who stands for freedom! Like, how about that one guy.....uh....oh yeah! RON PAUL.

Your likely reply: Exactly. That's why I'm voting against mccain.

You need to read up on HEGELIAN DIALECTICS. Since you likely will be to lazy to google it, I did it for you. Click here. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hegelian+dialectic&btnG=Google+Search)


:mad:

[quantized]

You are NOT reading my post. I repeat again! McCain=Hillary=Obama. Vote FOR someone who stands for freedom! Like, how about that one guy.....uh....oh yeah! RON PAUL.

Your likely reply: Exactly. That's why I'm voting against mccain.


:mad:

who are you trying to kid? of the McCain/Hillary/Obama pack, McCain is the most prowar among them all. he promised a surge in iraq war. Obama/Hill promised a withdrawal/reduction of troops.

also, i am utterly pissed off with the GOP! i will revolt against GOP by voting for the democratic nomineee. it makes me feel good. this is my vote so i do what i want with it! it will be a wasted vote anyway if RP does not run thrid party, so i will use this vote to appease my anger. if RP is not the GOP nominee, i want GOP to lose by a landslide. Ha!

[acptulsa]

There will be no McCain presidency. He was set up to lose to Clinton, and the G.O.P. primary voters played their parts to date pretty much as they were told to do. This was not unexpected. McCain was no more set up to win outright than Bob Dole was. What, are you kidding? No one ever expected him to win, least of all the man himself. I'd feel like a damned fool saying things like Vladimir Putin is "president" of Germany, but I guess McCain is made of sterner stuff than I.

It was the Democrats who, as usual, strayed from the script. Can't claim to have a lot of faith in Obama. If we have anything going for us at all, it's that if they do a JFK and shoot him they'll have riots. I suppose they'll just do the Jimmy Carter and stonewall him while the bankers purposely destroy the economy.

If we can't pull this election off, the question becomes can we expose their deliberate saboutage of the nation in the effort to discredit Obama? This, of course, assumes the senator doesn't have the courtesy to play ball with them...

[WilliamC]

Obama would be much better than McCain.

You made a funny :)

[WilliamC]

If anyone claims to support Ron Paul but won't write him in for the General Election, well I suppose you can claim anything you like but that doesn't make it true.

[Meatwasp]

If you guys think Obama is going to be better than Mccain.... you guys have got another thing coming to you.

IMO, Ron Paul write in.

exactly

[TastyWheat]

If you mean voting for no other reason than to oppose McCain, then no. I'll vote for Ron Paul of course, but if he died or something... well, I'd still write in Ron Paul I guess.

[pcosmar]

Obama/Hill promised a withdrawal/reduction of troops.
Was that before they promised to stay and rebuild the country.
And what of the other countries they have promised to invade.
Any body that thinks there is one lick of difference between "R" and "D" choices is not paying attention.

[Shink]

Quantized, 'my vote is mine.' ....Yeah, no shit. However, your vote is quite uninformed if you think Obama and Billary are in any way less pro-war than McCain. You actually believe in the left/right paradigm. You haven't done your homework on those candidates. Voting with the mass of retards for Billbama won't make you feel better in the long run. You are voting for the North American Union, the Greatest Depression, the New World Order. Your conscience will kick you in the balls within a year of casting your wasted vote for the status quo. Great fucking job.

Selective memory: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NuGi-lVU7QM

You owe it to people in Iraq and Afghanistan to vote for someone who will end the occupation IMMEDIATELY. No fucking embassy, no 'I don't want to make promises not knowing what the situation's gonna be 3 or 4 years out.' Your vote costs LIVES.

[mavtek]

Tough to write Ron Paul on those damn diebold touchscreens that's why I plan to bring a sharpie.

[idiom]

Tough to write Ron Paul on those damn diebold touchscreens that's why I plan to bring a sharpie.

Carve it in to the touch screen :)

[thexjib]

I'll vote 3rd party HOWEVER.... if my state (ca) is very close in november and Hillary is not the DEM then I just might do what I never thought I would ever do and vote for the DEM


I refuse to vote for clinton or McCain

[trapfive]

This man voted for over thirty years, on principle. He voted his conscience and stood on principle. For thirty years, off and on, he resisted them temptation to just go along and fit in; to be one of the crowd and to be accepted by his peers.

For that, this man has my utmost respect and admiration. If Ron Paul gets only one vote in Ohio, it will be my vote and it will be the most patriotic thing I have ever done in my life.

[Drknows]

you wont have to do shit. There is no way Mr 100 years will win.

The dems are showing up to vote 2 to 1.

[alaric]

If RP does not secure the nomination at brokered convention, not only i will not vote for McCain, i will go against him by voting for his opponent i.e. democrat nominee. YES! call me whatever you want! i do not want a warmonger to be my president and i want the GOP to shit in their pants since they pick a nominee more liberal than the democratic nominee.

give a shout out in this thread if you feel like i do.

NO NO NO! Write Ron Paul in!

[nate895]

you wont have to do shit. There is no way Mr 100 years will win.

The dems are showing up to vote 2 to 1.

That means nothing, it was the same in '88 and '00, and yet we all know how those turned out. The reason why this year's turnout is so low is because there is no one the conservative base was really motivated to support.

[qh4dotcom]

I have a bumper sticker and T-shirt that says "Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul"

Problem is that I couldn't vote for him in the Florida primary...I needed to become a registered Republican before the Dec. 31 deadline in Florida and I didn't know.

So I will write Ron Paul's name on the ballot in November so I can truthfully use that bumper sticker and T-shirt.

[qh4dotcom]

If you guys think Obama is going to be better than Mccain.... you guys have got another thing coming to you.

IMO, Ron Paul write in.

Yes I am writing in Ron Paul.

However don't forget that if McCain becomes president, he may want to run for re-election in 2012...or his VP can run for president. Which means that it will be harder for Ron Paul or someone he endorses to seek the Republican nomination in 2012.

[thehittgirl]

No choice but a write in.