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Patrick_Henry
02-13-2008, 11:03 PM
Someone had a thread about them staying republican, and I thought it would be an interesting poll. Please give your reasons as well.

I'm staying republican. I want to start up my own local Republican Liberty Caucus in my town. If you haven't heard about it: http://rlc.org

Check it out! Paul used to be the chairman.

BarryDonegan
02-13-2008, 11:04 PM
vote for the right people, run in the party that gives you the biggest voice.

who cares what party that is at what time.

PauliticsPolitics
02-13-2008, 11:06 PM
who cares who you are affiliated with?
Luckily, in IL here we are affiliated with whatever party we last chose to vote in the primaries of.

So I won't vote here, because i don't care about my afiliation, it doesn't have an impact.

fosol
02-13-2008, 11:08 PM
I see no reason to switch parties. The LP has been broken for a long time.

Myerz
02-13-2008, 11:08 PM
I realize that Ron will reamin or wants to remain republican for the sake of Congress, but he also said that the GOP deserves to be punished. To me there's no better way but to just leave the party all together. They need to feel the pain.

Patrick_Henry
02-13-2008, 11:17 PM
I realize that Ron will reamin or wants to remain republican for the sake of Congress, but he also said that the GOP deserves to be punished. To me there's no better way but to just leave the party all together. They need to feel the pain.

That's why I'm thinking about the RLC. We get to use the Republican name, but the party gets none of my funds. Also, on their website they state that a lot of their members will vote libertarian before they vote republican.

Azprint
02-13-2008, 11:21 PM
I am liberal. The only reason why I jumped on Paul's bandwagon was due to his unique and unheard of position, which I assumed may work. So, yeah, gop is rotten to the core staying in it does not make a difference.

LandonCook
02-13-2008, 11:30 PM
I am liberal. The only reason why I jumped on Paul's bandwagon was due to his unique and unheard of position, which I assumed may work. So, yeah, gop is rotten to the core staying in it does not make a difference.

Every party is rotten to the core... except for maybe the libertarians... And they can't get shit done... We have to take over both parties... D and R

PauliticsPolitics
02-13-2008, 11:35 PM
Every party is rotten to the core... except for maybe the libertarians... And they can't get shit done... We have to take over both parties... D and R

now we're talking.

but we already have a foot in the repubicans, so we should start there.

but if you live in a democratic district, go ahead run democratic. democrats are generally pro "social liberty" and most people don't understand "fiscal liberty" so you can breeze right in.

i'm still trying to figure out my best strtegy for infiltrating the parties.

a ron paul-esque candidate can easily win a democratic seat. just hype the unconstitutional wars, the unconsitutional war on drugs, privacy, etc.

we need every congressman and local politician on our side, doesn't matter what party it is.
we will know who is part of the underground Freedom Party.

theczar1776
02-13-2008, 11:38 PM
republican, the dem's platform does'nt compute will our philosophy

AJ Antimony
02-13-2008, 11:42 PM
Parties don't mean anything. Really. If they had any importance then you wouldn't be able to join simply by checking a little box. If they had any importance then you wouldn't be allowed to switch to easily.

PauliticsPolitics
02-13-2008, 11:43 PM
republican, the dem's platform does'nt compute will our philosophy

the current republican platform doesn't fit either.

The two party system has successfully split the liberty voters.

alledgedly Republicans = fiscal liberty
alledgedly Democrats = social liberty

PEOPLE, WE NEED BOTH.
We can run on both sides.
There are certain parts of the country that will plainly not vote republican at this point.

We need to infiltrate both corrupt parties.

theczar1776
02-13-2008, 11:45 PM
the current republican platform doesn't fit either.

The two party system has successfully split the liberty voters.

alledgedly Republicans = fiscal liberty
alledgedly Democrats = social liberty

PEOPLE, WE NEED BOTH.
We can run on both sides.
There are certain parts of the country that will plainly not vote republican at this point.

We need to infiltrate both corrupt parties.

You need a govt for liberalism. you dont for Conservatism.
i am not stupid enough to say that the reps/dems follow there ism's

PauliticsPolitics
02-13-2008, 11:50 PM
You need a govt for liberalism. you dont for Conservatism.
i am not stupid enough to say that the reps/dems follow there ism's

Agreed.
unfortunately, conservativism has some how recently absorbed illegal wars, no child left behind, war on drugs, etc.

I feel the ISM's have also been corrupted....

The only ism that we need to follow is the freedomism.

expatinireland
02-14-2008, 06:13 AM
I would prefer starting our own party as both of the existing mainstream parties are anti freedom and liberty by supporting policies that seek to impose their will on other people.

As a fiscal conservative, my natural inclination is towards the Republican party but the party seems overwhelmingly dominated by Christians wearing religion on their sleeves and determined to impose their view of reality on everyone else - just can't stand being around those folk, I could never be friends or socialise with most Republicans of that sort so it makes no sense to me to try to change a party dominated by them.

There are plenty of people out there who have dropped out of both parties who have been attracted to the Ron Paul cause and I believe we have just scratched the surface so my vote is for a new party.

familydog
02-14-2008, 06:34 AM
I'll be working in the state capital soon. I'll be staying Republican. It makes sense with all the access to the PA GOP I'll have.

Austin
02-14-2008, 06:43 AM
Republican: The only vehicle with the ability to bring about the change we desire.

Though, up until a few days ago, I was going to join the Libertarian Party.

jaumen
02-14-2008, 07:20 AM
I would register independent if my state had open primaries, but it doesn't. So I stay Republican because being independent does nothing but limit my voice... and I don't agree with the dems on very many things....

Join The Paul Side
02-14-2008, 07:30 AM
For me if Ron Paul is not President, I will leave the party and be Independent until they get their shit togeather. I will do anything I can to assist with the future takeover of the GOP by Ron Paul Republicans though. Just need to take a breather from 8 years of horse shit. :(

BuddyRey
02-22-2008, 01:23 PM
For the love of Heaven, stay Republican and help us take down the power establishment from within! Here's a historical example of how successful we could be.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=123349

A great place to start would be by joining the Republican Liberty Caucus, or at least signing up for some information from them.

http://www.rlc.org/

WilliamC
02-22-2008, 01:25 PM
As long as Ron Paul sticks with the Republican Party so will I.

LibertyEagle
02-22-2008, 02:41 PM
I realize that Ron will reamin or wants to remain republican for the sake of Congress, but he also said that the GOP deserves to be punished. To me there's no better way but to just leave the party all together. They need to feel the pain.

It won't make "them" feel the pain. "Them" controls both major parties at the top.

It seems to me that since we basically have a 2-party system in this country and to date, no other party has been allowed in the debates, if we want to try to take this country back, we have to take over one of the parties. It seems to me that the GOP is ripe for the pickin'. But, to pull it off, it's my opinion that we have to take it over from the local level on up through the state level.

Just my 2c.

LibertyEagle
02-22-2008, 02:43 PM
the current republican platform doesn't fit either.

The two party system has successfully split the liberty voters.

alledgedly Republicans = fiscal liberty
alledgedly Democrats = social liberty

PEOPLE, WE NEED BOTH.
We can run on both sides.
There are certain parts of the country that will plainly not vote republican at this point.

We need to infiltrate both corrupt parties.

Yes, but the platform used to be pretty darn good. It didn't have all that social BS. We can take the party back, but it's going to take a whole lot of us getting really involved and taking it over from the local level on up.

Todd
02-22-2008, 02:53 PM
You've got to stay Republican and get it back on track. Run from the candidates...not from the principles.
We can't fix McCain...we can fix the party.

lucynuts
02-22-2008, 02:54 PM
I'm staying Republican but that doesn't mean I'm gonna vote for the Republican nominee, whatever happens I will vote Ron Paul in November even if I have to write it in.

robert4rp08
02-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Republican. There's a reason that Dr. Paul has toughed it out in the Republican party all these years....

brandon
02-22-2008, 03:01 PM
I'll stay in the republican party, but I am not a Republican. I'll only vote for and donate to candidates similar to Paul. It is our best chance to have any type of political sway in the near future.

Join The Paul Side
02-22-2008, 03:02 PM
For the love of Heaven, stay Republican and help us take down the power establishment from within! Here's a historical example of how successful we could be.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=123349

A great place to start would be by joining the Republican Liberty Caucus, or at least signing up for some information from them.

http://www.rlc.org/

I've been a Republican most my life, but left the party a couple years ago in disgust of what it has become. I only re-registered Republican for Ron Paul. Looking at the GOP as a whole, the party is too far progressed in the ways of the neocons to be reversed anytime soon. They want John McCain to be their nominee for cryin' out loud. Need I say more?

It could take years to accomplish a GOP takeover and perhaps well beyond Dr. Paul's lifetime. Why waste the energy? Start a new party. We would have a better chance recruiting people to support our cause by starting a new party than we would trying to revamp the image of the party that elected George W. Bush.

His presidency will leave the GOP with open wounds that could last for decades to come and people will not forget it.

I prefer to just be a smarter voter. One who looks for Ron Paul Republicans and Dennis Kucinich Democrats.

:)

ArrestPoliticians
02-22-2008, 03:09 PM
Ron Paul endorsed the Idea of taking over the Republican party. Trust his decision.

DFF
02-22-2008, 04:15 PM
^^^ Correct. But if I see an (L) next to an obscure candidates' name in the upcoming elections, I will most certainly vote for them.

Cleaner44
02-22-2008, 04:17 PM
We need to use the GOP to open the process back up for competeing parties. Staying with the GOP for now.

JRegs85
02-22-2008, 06:36 PM
Constitution Party.

www.constitutionparty.org

Ron Paul is better than the Constitution Party on issues like gambling and the Drug War, but overall the Constitution Party provides the best mix of pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-civil liberties, and monetary responsibility.

freedom-maniac
02-23-2008, 08:12 AM
republican, the dem's platform does'nt compute will our philosophy

Right, because we're so opposed to the Iraq war and the PATRIOT Act.

Spirit of '76
02-23-2008, 10:54 AM
Right, because we're so opposed to the Iraq war and the PATRIOT Act.

But are we in favor of socialism? I don't think so...

I'll be continuing to work within the Republican Party. At this moment it is in total disarray. It is just waiting for an organized, motivated, enthusiastic group like us to take it over.

Remember, the neocons took over the GOP in the 1970's and 1980's. We can take it back in the 21st century.

Flash
02-23-2008, 11:48 AM
I want to join the Libertarian Party. I agree 100% with them too.


Right, because we're so opposed to the Iraq war and the PATRIOT Act.

I guess the goal would be to infiltrate both partys to a constitutionalist position. But the Democrat party is even more lost than Republicans are. The Dems are no longer the party of JFK.

H Roark
02-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Neither, you forgot to add CONSTITUTION PARTY ( www.constitutionparty.org ) to your list of choices.