Status of Race?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://www.rightontheright.com/node/3233


Ron Paul is facing an uphill climb if he wants to win his party's nomination. No, I'm not talking about his Presidential bid, I'm talking about his Congressional race. The FDH Lounge (http://thefdhlounge.blogspot.com/2008/02/ron-paul-to-withdraw-from-presidential.html) has the big news. Paul's getting out:

Troubled by internal polls showing insurgent challenger Chris Peden having pulled ahead shockingly in the Texas 14th congressional district, Congressman Ron Paul will be pulling out of the Republican presidential race in advance of his home state's March 4 primary, The FDH Lounge blog has learned.

My own source backs this up. Paul's campaign is looking at internal numbers showing Peden with a 43-32 lead over Paul, with the primary just weeks away. Conservatives have been rallying to Peden, including the folks at RedState, in an attempt to oust the anti-war flamethrower. 11 points with three weeks to go. You have to like those odds. Peden has been added to my slatecard of candidates to support, so throw him some love if you despise the Ron Paul anti-Republican contingent as much as the rest of us.

I know this is just some crappy blog, and I doubt either of them have "sources", and I suspect that they're just trying to rile up Paul supporters, but can someone in the know call the Paul campaign to confirm or deny the withdrawal and/or internal numbers?

[jake]

sorry but that blog is garbage.

[AdamT]

If he's staying in the presidential race against such odds, I can't imagine he'd give up his House seat that easy.

[Bruno]

I'll believe it when I read it on the Daily Dose.

[Agora]

yeah, the Peden's rally was huge...more than 10 people!
more bull...t from haters.

[itshappening]

Lies

[theseus51]

Ron Paul beat out an incumbent in 1996, with the full weight of the GOP behind the incumbent. The attacks were much more vicious, and his opponent had a lot more money, a lot more name recognition, and a lot more support. In recent elections, he's been winning by 20% or more margins.

Somehow I doubt a no name challenger, running on a pro-war policy in an anti-war district (4:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EywYDhPeY8 ) can pull off an upset. Just my thoughts.

Plus I doubt that he is pulling out of the Presidential race, 2 days after he released a video saying he won't be.

[1836]

That would be very difficult to believe, given that Dr. Paul himself just gave us a video message about "fighting on."

If I had to guess, this originates in Peden's campaign.

By the way, 43-32 numbers are actually not bad for us. Those remaining undecided voters will usually choose the incumbent. Also, remember that there are a couple of other non-Peden candidates in the race. I think a runoff would be tough for Paul to win, but he would get in one if there was one, at least.

Doesn't add up, I'll believe it when I see it from the campaign.

[theseus51]

That would be very difficult to believe, given that Dr. Paul himself just gave us a video message about "fighting on."

If I had to guess, this originates in Peden's campaign.

By the way, 43-32 numbers are actually not bad for us. Those remaining undecided voters will usually choose the incumbent. Also, remember that there are a couple of other non-Peden candidates in the race. I think a runoff would be tough for Paul to win, but he would get in one if there was one, at least.

Doesn't add up, I'll believe it when I see it from the campaign.

There is no way an unknown challenger can be ahead of a popular incumbent, especially by 10%. Those numbers are pulled out of thin air. I doubt he has even 10% name recognition in the district.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

If Dr. Paul does somehow lose to this neo-con filth, he should launch an independent run for both his seat and President. The GOP will be proven unreformable and worthy of destruction if this happens.

[Revolution9]

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I know this is just some crappy blog, and I doubt either of them have "sources", and I suspect that they're just trying to rile up Paul supporters, but can someone in the know call the Paul campaign to confirm or deny the withdrawal and/or internal numbers?

Hey Wolf.. Don't post this crap from some moron in the middle of nowhere who thinks his opinion counts. You just made it worth crap in a handbasket by posting it here. Please refrain in the future from giving simpletons with no analysis abilities the venue to have their spew seen by more than themselves. I am keeping my eye on you after this one.. yer doing the same as all the other shills i have booted recently.



Thanks
Randy

[FreeTraveler]

http://www.rightontheright.com/node/3233

I know this is just some crappy blog, and I doubt either of them have "sources", and I suspect that they're just trying to rile up Paul supporters, but can someone in the know call the Paul campaign to confirm or deny the withdrawal and/or internal numbers?

Okay, you know it's a crappy blog, and doubt they have sources, and suspect they're just trying to rile up Paul supporters...

SO WHY DID YOU POST THIS CRAP? THANKS FOR GIVING THEM WHAT THEY WANTED!

Ass... if you want an answer, call the campaign your own damn self. Don't be posting negative crap with no justification and call yourself a fan!

[Ron Paul Fan]

I don't know if he's behind, but I believe Paul is in a dogfight otherwise he wouldn't have basically suspended his Presidential campaign and gone down to campaign in his district. I still think he'll win because it's tough to beat an incumbent when the incumbent is more well known and has a lot more money. But Paul had to think that there was a reason to go down there in the 1st place. If he thought he was up by 30%, no reason to stop the Presidential campaign.

[1836]

If Dr. Paul does somehow lose to this neo-con filth, he should launch an independent run for both his seat and President. The GOP will be proven unreformable and worthy of destruction if this happens.

That's not legal in Texas. Although Paul could run in the Texas Republican primary and then drop out and be on the ballot in November as an independent, he cannot do the same for his congressional race.

What Joe Lieberman did in 2006 against Ned Lamont, losing the primary and dropping out to run independent, is not legal in 46 states. Texas one of them.

If Paul were to drop out of the race to run independent, which is highly unlikely but might end up being a reasonable move if indeed Peden IS polling well, he'd have to do it BEFORE the primary.

Look up Carole Keeton Strayhorn. That kind of dropping out.

[1836]

I don't know if he's behind, but I believe Paul is in a dogfight otherwise he wouldn't have basically suspended his Presidential campaign and gone down to campaign in his district. I still think he'll win because it's tough to beat an incumbent when the incumbent is more well known and has a lot more money. But Paul had to think that there was a reason to go down there in the 1st place. If he thought he was up by 30%, no reason to stop the Presidential campaign.

Excellent point, unfortunately. Still, I find it difficult to believe that Paul could be down at all. Without a doubt, Congress is his main priority. Hell, remember before the 4th quarter money started pouring in, he still was spending most days of the week in the House voting. He feels it is the most important thing.

But we'll have to see. I may call RPHQ....

[constituent]

I don't know if he's behind, but I believe Paul is in a dogfight otherwise he wouldn't have basically suspended his Presidential campaign and gone down to campaign in his district.

His district is in texas.... so is the March 4th Primary.

I don't know how familiar you are w/ the geography of Texas, particularly
that of district 14, but its placement along the "coastal bend" makes it
central to just about anywhere in the state. For example, Victoria is
roughly 2 hrs. 15 min. from Austin, 2 hours from Houston, 2 hours 15 minutes
from San Antonio, 2 hours from Corpus and about 2 hrs. 15 min. from the border.

Campaigning in his district puts him a hop, skip and jump from just about
anywhere in the state.

Just some food for thought.

[1836]

I just called Arlington Headquarters and they know nothing about the congressional campaign, but said he's still in the presidential race for sure.

Hm.

[spacebetween]

His district is in texas.... so is the March 4th Primary.

I don't know how familiar you are w/ the geography of Texas, particularly
that of district 14, but its placement along the "coastal bend" makes it
central to just about anywhere in the state. For example, Victoria is
roughly 2 hrs. 15 min. from Austin, 2 hours from Houston, 2 hours 15 minutes
from San Antonio, 2 hours from Corpus and about 2 hrs. 15 min. from the border.

Campaigning in his district puts him a hop, skip and jump from just about
anywhere in the state.

Just some food for thought.

The coast of Texas isn't really central to anywhere in Texas except those places nearby...

And btw, this all sounds like absolute BS.

[me3]

Okay, you know it's a crappy blog, and doubt they have sources, and suspect they're just trying to rile up Paul supporters...

SO WHY DID YOU POST THIS CRAP? THANKS FOR GIVING THEM WHAT THEY WANTED!

Ass... if you want an answer, call the campaign your own damn self. Don't be posting negative crap with no justification and call yourself a fan!
Exactly my thoughts.

Just because something is written on the internet, doesn't make it true. Before starting a thread, the information should be substantiated. If there is nothing to it but rumor or opinion, don't post it!

Peden has a nice little online army of Paul haters shilling for him.

==> Chris Peden for Congress (http://chrispeden.wordpress.com) <==


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[dirknb@hotmail.com]

Ummm, did you watch the video Ron sent out two nights ago?

[Sandra]

I'm from Alvin and my family is still in Alvin, Galveston, Friendswood, Pearland, and Houston. None of them have heard of Peden. He's supposed to be mayor of Friendswood but my Friendswood cousin doesn't know anything about him. They are all Ron Paul supporters.

[pacelli]

More propaganda.

[GoldStan]

It isn't just on that blog folks:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/12/658019.aspx

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/ron-paul-scalin.html

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272618853.shtml

[theseus51]

It isn't just on that blog folks:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/12/658019.aspx

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/ron-paul-scalin.html

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272618853.shtml

It is true Ron Paul is scaling back his efforts. If you are running a national campaign, and half the states are finished voting, you need much less staff. I seriously doubt it's because of any realistic "threat" posed by a no name city councilman.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

It isn't just on that blog folks:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/12/658019.aspx

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/ron-paul-scalin.html

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272618853.shtml

Those all say he's scaling back. That's different from a total and complete drop out, which is what Paul would have to do to use presidential funds on his congressional reelection.

[Ron Paul Fan]

The coast of Texas isn't really central to anywhere in Texas except those places nearby...

And btw, this all sounds like absolute BS.

Exactly. Some of the Paultards just aren't willing to accept that Paul has practically given up on his Presidential campaign, so they make shit up. He knows there won't be a brokered convention and he told us that. But some of his supporters just don't believe him for some reason. Paul is in a fight for his political life down there. Libertarianism for the most part is dead and Paul is starting to find that out.

[NEPA_Revolution]

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[thoughtbombing]

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[kill the banks]

Exactly. Some of the Paultards just aren't willing to accept that Paul has practically given up on his Presidential campaign, so they make shit up. He knows there won't be a brokered convention and he told us that. But some of his supporters just don't believe him for some reason. Paul is in a fight for his political life down there. Libertarianism for the most part is dead and Paul is starting to find that out.

taking over the gop is alive however ~ forever


kill the banks

[MicroBalrog]

Exactly. Some of the Paultards just aren't willing to accept that Paul has practically given up on his Presidential campaign, so they make shit up. He knows there won't be a brokered convention and he told us that. But some of his supporters just don't believe him for some reason. Paul is in a fight for his political life down there. Libertarianism for the most part is dead and Paul is starting to find that out.

Libertarianism is dead?

Please explain to me, at what point of political history in the last 80 years was libertarianism better off than it is now?

Remember, 50 years ago libertarianism was maybe 3000 guys, tops, reading the FEE newsletter.

Yes, it's not precisely the dominating idea of America, but the fact that more people voted for a libertarian candidate in this election cycle than were actually members of the movement 20 years ago is fucking amazing.

Yes, a lot of people had their hopes up and now they've been stepped upon by the Godzilla foot of reality, but it's not over, because it's never over.

[tbrambo]

Don't you just love these "polls" with all their valid "information" and their "inside sources"

WTF!!!! Are we living in Atlas Shrugged or something? WHY ARE PEOPLE SO STUPID TO BELIEVE THIS SHIT! :mad: