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Nelson Hultberg
02-12-2008, 12:47 PM
Third Party Run is Doable for Ron Paul!
Americans for a Free Republic Shows How to Pull It Off!


Let's quit fooling ourselves. America is now a ONE PARTY STATE! Republicans and Democrats have become nothing but two divisions of the same party. Their game is to accrue power and centralize government in Washington.

There is only one hope for meaningful reform. Americans must challenge the Demopublicans with a third party. But it must be a real third party that can actually pose a threat to the Demopublicans' monopolistic rule.

It is a fallacy to say that third parties in America cannot work. The reason why is because all third parties in the past century (like the Libertarians and Perot's Reformers) have been built upon two disastrous flaws that automatically doom them to failure. But correct these two fundamental errors and a genuine challenge to the Demopublicans can be launched.

Americans for a Free Republic www.afr.org (http://www.afr.org)has an innovative plan to correct these two errors and effectively challenge the statist establishment with a third party campaign. We have been building grassroots support for over three years now. We propose a new third party -- the FREE AMERICAN PARTY -- to be formed as our vehicle to continue the fight.

The great majority of the American people wish to end the relentless and tyrannical expansion of the federal government. Our AFR Mission Statement (http://www.afr.org/mission.htm)demonstrates the WHY and the HOW to do this with a powerful, revolutionary approach to politics.

Millions of Americans now sense that Republicans and Democrats are one and the same. This groundswell needs only to be tapped with the appropriate combination of savvy and passion.

Ron Paul is the leader to accomplish this, but we must convince him to run a third-party campaign. This can be done, and AFR shows how to do it. If we fail to convince Paul for the 2008 campaign, then we set about building the FREE AMERICAN PARTY for 2012.

This revolution will not be won in one campaign. We live in a watershed era of history that is going to unfold in a way never before seen in America. Great, epochal changes are coming. AFR plans to be at the forefront of those changes. We call for all patriotic Americans to join with us.

Yours in Liberty,
Nelson Hultberg
Executive Director
Americans for a Free Republic
Dallas, Texas
http://www.afr.org (http://www.afr.org)

MrZach
02-12-2008, 12:48 PM
Yeah, except Ron Paul has already ruled that out 100%.

...and for good reason. He would be scapegoated as why McCain lost after November. That would accomplish nothing.

FortWorth38
02-12-2008, 12:50 PM
No Third Party ...


No Soup For You

nate895
02-12-2008, 01:04 PM
There won't be a third party/independent run unless he loses his Congressional seat, which is unlikely.

Lovecraftian4Paul
02-12-2008, 01:37 PM
Just out of curiosity, what's the danger to his Congressional seat if he decided to go independent later on in the summer? Even if the GOP expelled him, could they even run a candidate against him by then if he was forced to be an independent for Congressional re-election as well?

I also heard there may be a law in Texas preventing someone from appearing under two different parties in the same election. It seems to me like independent might be a loophole, since it technically isn't any political party at all.

Nelson Hultberg
02-12-2008, 02:06 PM
Just out of curiosity, what's the danger to his Congressional seat if he decided to go independent later on in the summer? Even if the GOP expelled him, could they even run a candidate against him by then if he was forced to be an independent for Congressional re-election as well?

I also heard there may be a law in Texas preventing someone from appearing under two different parties in the same election. It seems to me like independent might be a loophole, since it technically isn't any political party at all.
There is no danger. He can run for President and his Congressional seat at the same time. After the March 4th primary, the Republicans can no longer run a candidate against him. Yes, there is what is called a "sore losers law" in Texas and three other states in the U.S. that does prevent politicians from running for President with another party if they lose their nomination in their primary party. As for an "independent" run, I'm not sure. I think it applies to that also.

But it's of no importance because the idea is not to win the White House the first time out. The idea is to get into the National TV Election Debates in the fall. This will give the freedom message the prestige that it requires, and it will put our ideas in front of 100 million voters. If we can just repeat this every election year, then we can act as a powerful countervailing force against the Demopublicans. The reason they win every year is because they control the flow of ideas at election time. The public is never given an alternative vision in the Big Fall TV Debates. They are given only a choice between Socialist Party A and Socialist Party B. This is no way to restore freedom. Without a "free-market voice" in those debates, dictatorship looms over the horizon. The Demopublicans' monopoly over ideas must be broken. -- NH

Peace&Freedom
02-12-2008, 02:06 PM
Just out of curiosity, what's the danger to his Congressional seat if he decided to go independent later on in the summer? Even if the GOP expelled him, could they even run a candidate against him by then if he was forced to be an independent for Congressional re-election as well?

I also heard there may be a law in Texas preventing someone from appearing under two different parties in the same election. It seems to me like independent might be a loophole, since it technically isn't any political party at all.

Correct, this loophole may allow Paul to keep the door cracked open for a November run, especially considering McCain WILL be revealed to be a certain loser (by polls) by mid year. GOP rank and file should be screaming for a solution other then Mac by then (just as they were for looking for an alternative to Dole in mid '96). Paul, of course, is the answer, and in that context would not be viewed as a spoiler. And even if he was, unless this Revolution establishes at the outset it reserves the 'walking power' to cost the party an election, it will not develop the leverage to transform the party in the long haul. Loyalty to the freedom message and agenda must trump loyalty to a party label.

nightlight
02-12-2008, 02:09 PM
Yeah, except Ron Paul has already ruled that out 100%.

Not 100%. He said he doesn't like absolutes. No one knows what will happen by this summer.

Nelson Hultberg
02-12-2008, 02:20 PM
Nightlight is correct here. No one knows what is going to happen for sure. We must always keep our options open. Those who denounce a third-party know not of what they speak. We at AFR in Dallas www.afr.org (http://www.afr.org)do know. A third party is absolutely mandatory if we are to save America. The Republicans have pulled the wool over so many millions of intelligent voters eyes for over 40 years now. How many times do voters have to be used before they realize they are being used? -- NH

Lovecraftian4Paul
02-12-2008, 03:36 PM
Yeah, it seems unlikely at this point, but if we lose the opportunity for a brokered convention and the support is demonstrated through petitions like the one on www.afr.org and pledges like www.ronpaulwhitehouse.com then he might rethink an independent/third party run.

Nelson Hultberg
02-12-2008, 10:52 PM
Many great leaders throughout the course of history have made dramatic changes in their life's direction and strategic goals. Paul could well do the same. We just need to convince him that this is the only way to save the country. The Republicans are locked into runaway statism. Forget them. Form a new party of conservatives and libertarians. Read our Mission Statement (http://www.afr.org/mission.htm). It will explain how to put such a party into the TV Election debates where it can become influential. -- NH, Americans for a Free Republic

hawkeyenick
02-13-2008, 02:11 AM
He can't win on a third party ticket, america isn't ready, the media is too biased and it would cost millions alone just for ballot access in all states.

cindy25
02-14-2008, 11:41 PM
might not win, but it would keep the war issue alive, and it would end McWar

Midnight77
02-15-2008, 12:13 AM
Not 100%. He said he doesn't like absolutes. No one knows what will happen by this summer.

Apparently you didn't get his last email where he said he was ruling it out.