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MrZach
02-12-2008, 11:32 AM
I read somewhere that the necessary majority of the states have called for a Constitutional Convention under Article V hundreds of times and have been ignored by congress. Can we maybe find out what happened with those and perhaps even start another one in the process ASAP to get it called by the time we march?

Article V of the U.S. Constitution

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution

http://www.article-5.org/

http://ddrevival.blogspot.com/2007/05/article-5-constitutional-convention.html

Even worse, despite Article V explicitly saying that Congress "shall" call such a convention when a sufficient number of states have asked for one - and that is the ONLY specified constitutional requirement - for over 200 years Congress has willfully disobeyed the constitution and NOT granted a convention. In fact, Congress never had the integrity and constitutional respect to even set up a system of any kind to collect state requests for an Article V convention. Still, we know from the hard work of many that there have been well over 500 such state requests.
http://www.populistamerica.com/democracy_dreaming

But no such amendment convention has been created. Even though there have been over 500 such state legislature requests from all 50 states. Congress has always refused to call an Article V convention, despite the one and only specified requirement in the Constitution being fulfilled.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/250107/all_the_presidential_candidates_are.html

John of Des Moines
02-12-2008, 11:34 AM
NO! The power elite would use the convention to really F*&%-us over. The present constitution just need to be obeyed. NO Convention. Bad idea!

..PAUL4PRES..
02-12-2008, 11:35 AM
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phoenixzorn
02-12-2008, 12:03 PM
NO! The power elite would use the convention to really F*&%-us over. The present constitution just need to be obeyed. NO Convention. Bad idea!

Uhm... yeah... that's WHY we would want to run a Constitutional Convention... to determine AGAIN that the original Constitution for the United States of America is the law of the land, and that anyone who defies it will be prosecuted... That was what the original Constitutional Convention did, and we need to do it again. Though I don't agree that it should be done along with the march necessarily, it would ensure that the 2/3 majority would be Ron Paul supporters because we'd be 3/3 of the attendees...

John of Des Moines
02-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Uhm... yeah... that's WHY we would want to run a Constitutional Convention... to determine AGAIN that the original Constitution for the United States of America is the law of the land, and that anyone who defies it will be prosecuted... That was what the original Constitutional Convention did, and we need to do it again. Though I don't agree that it should be done along with the march necessarily, it would ensure that the 2/3 majority would be Ron Paul supporters because we'd be 3/3 of the attendees...

Well, if we get 5-6 million with each state represented...