What Made People Turn Off Rudy So Fast? Can We Do The Same For Mccain?

[Edu]

What do you people think turned off people to Rudy so fast?

The media loved him, pushed him as hard as they could and they gave him plenty of time. All the reports I saw were good to him.

But then it all went away, and fast. And in my opinion it seemed to happen about a week before Florida.

Can we use the same method to turn people off of Mccain?

[RonPaulFever]

All of the utter defeats in the early primaries made voters lose confidence in him. Most people don't understand even the basics of politics and campaigning, and to them a loss is a loss.

[nate895]

The only problem is that Giuliani never had as commanding of a lead, and he never actually technically won anything.

[WRellim]

Rudy never had any true "support" -- it was really nothing more than very shallow "name recognition" that was being polled.

Rudy was never actually in the race.

[Revolution9]

McCain is getting set to explode. There will be jowls and sputum and illegal immigrants flying everywhere while the tune of Songbird For North Vietnam twitters away rolling across the hills of the media. Just look around the intertubes.. How much more evidence do you need..

Best
Randy

[nike]

No real support, plus disclosures into Rudy using the NYPD to escort his mistress around the city to meet him for their affair (he was married at the time) and also the scandal involving the chief of police he wanted Bush to make the director of the Dept of Homeland Security.

Why is no one willing to talk about Huckabee helping a convicted rapist go free when he was Governor of Arkansas in 1999, then the rapist upon release raped and murdered another woman? Of course if he keeps making asinine statements like the 10 commandments are better than the constitution he may do a good enough job on himself.

[LibertyEagle]

McCain is getting set to explode. There will be jowls and sputum and illegal immigrants flying everywhere while the tune of Songbird For North Vietnam twitters away rolling across the hills of the media. Just look around the intertubes.. How much more evidence do you need..

Best
Randy

heh.

I'm waiting for him to blow his stack on live TV, for all to see. :D

[Akus]

To answer the thread started question, there were way too many skeletons in this guy's closet. Dressing in drag, mulitple wives, charges of fascist style leadership..... you can't win the Conservative and, obviously, Evangelical crowd, with this kind of a background.

[slamhead]

I don't know..perhaps the mentioning of 9/11 about a billion times.

[acptulsa]

heh.

I'm waiting for him to blow his stack on live TV, for all to see. :D

We desperately need to encourage this. The MSM will not play up his many shortcomings. We need viral videos, songbird chants at his rallies, we need anything--anything--that will burn his famously short fuse to the quick.

How anyone can vote for a man who thinks ex-K.G.B. head Vladimir Putin is "president" of Germany for leader of the free world is so far beyond me it makes my head spin.

But then again, I remember feeling the same queasiness when W practically made another Iraq invasion a campaign promise in 2000. Of course, that didn't get any press either...

[ambiguousscion]

He is "pro choice" and not "family values" oriented. The only thing he had going for him was his fiscal responsibility. No one really cares for the "aggressive" line he always used on the war... even most of those who supported Bush don't like the idea of invading more countries.

[JordanQ72]

Rudy Giuliani was leading in polling when there was nobody else running. Seriously, most voters had no clue who the hell was running last June, and the polls were basically just a name recognition fight between Rudy and McCain.

As the race drew closer, people started being familiar with other candidates, and Rudy as well. Some decided they liked others better, some discovered they never liked Rudy to begin with.

Then came the actual voting. He ignored a lot of key states early on and lost badly there, and the obvious things happened. Future voters suddenly didn't think he was a viable candidate, and others simply wanted to get behind the winner. The exit polling out of Florida was really interesting and clear on these two last points.

[Drknows]

911

Remember people were mocking him? He had nothing else to say.

[LEK]

What do you people think turned off people to Rudy so fast?

The media loved him, pushed him as hard as they could and they gave him plenty of time. All the reports I saw were good to him.

But then it all went away, and fast. And in my opinion it seemed to happen about a week before Florida.

Can we use the same method to turn people off of Mccain?

McCain in a dress flirting with Donald Trump would clinch it for me...

[FreedomLover]

What do you people think turned off people to Rudy so fast?

The media loved him, pushed him as hard as they could and they gave him plenty of time. All the reports I saw were good to him.

But then it all went away, and fast. And in my opinion it seemed to happen about a week before Florida.

Can we use the same method to turn people off of Mccain?

People weren't really 'with' him in the first place. Giuliani waited til Florida and ceded the beginning of the primary season to his opponents. His soft supporters in the early states went to Romney and McCain, and being that the main reason people were behind him in the first place was his supposed ability to win against hillary, they backed off once they saw how weak he was in relation to all of his opponents on the GOP side.

With McCain, although he was dubbed by the media as a lost cause, his supporters never really left. McCain was the "establishment" choice from the beginning of the campaign to the end...it never changed desipite his low poll numbers during the summer. After the failure of Huckabee and Romney to end him 1 on 1, and his frequently high poll numbers against the democrats that were pretty consistent through the end of 2007, Most republicans decided to go along for the ride (not all of course).

[Jeremy]

Easy: he started losing... BADLY

[Kacela]

The rise and fall of Ghouliani's campaign is directly related to the media coverage given to him. When the powers that be saw that Ghouliani was unelectable, they started to hype Huckleberry. It's as simple as that - the media is choosing the next POTUS.

[kigol]

i've heard rumors that Rudy will be McCain's VP.

[ambiguousscion]

You can really look for a GOP loss at that point...

[NoPants]

Rudy never had any true "support" -- it was really nothing more than very shallow "name recognition" that was being polled.

Rudy was never actually in the race.

I agree, I think he was mostly just getting name recognition, heck McCain gets over 50% of his votes from people who oppose the war. Do you really think most people know anything about the candidate's actual positions? Survey says (or exit polls): NO, They Don't.

[wgadget]

No real support, plus disclosures into Rudy using the NYPD to escort his mistress around the city to meet him for their affair (he was married at the time) and also the scandal involving the chief of police he wanted Bush to make the director of the Dept of Homeland Security.

Why is no one willing to talk about Huckabee helping a convicted rapist go free when he was Governor of Arkansas in 1999, then the rapist upon release raped and murdered another woman? Of course if he keeps making asinine statements like the 10 commandments are better than the constitution he may do a good enough job on himself.

The Huck stuff is old news that happened before *normal* people were even paying any attention to the elections. Shoot, most people decide who to vote for the day before the election.

[syborius]

have any pictures of Mccain in drag?

[charger]

I've been watching very close. He lost the push when his plan had to divert to take him to the hospital. He claimed it was nothing but after that he did not have the support of the Washington insiders or the media.
It also appeared that he stopped his campaign waiting in Florida.
I think he has health issues and they don't want him to be a disability.
That is when they had to switch all of the voting machines over for a McCain win instead of Rudy.
If you don't believe me do some research.

[Revolution9]

have any pictures of Mccain in drag?

There are 30 flms under control of the CIA and well known amongst top GOP and Senators that McCain made for North Vietnam

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3068/2/

That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP Senators and Congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.

They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for Translator. T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War. One of those prisoners was John McCain.

The GRU -- Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or Main Intelligence Directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces - operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war. GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.

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John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on October 26, 1967. Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors. In July, 1968, his father, US Navy Admiral J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command, commander of all US military forces in the Vietnam theatre.

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McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March of 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.

According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.

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http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3068/2/

So.. do the Clintons have control of these films waiting to unleash them after they hope he gets the nomination? Or do the White Hats in the Intel community control them and that is what is coming down the pipe shortly? Or do his controllers have them as blackmail to keep him in place and puppeteered?

Best Regards
Randy

[Edu]

Summary:

defeats in the early primaries
only very shallow "name recognition"
NYPD to escort his mistress
Dressing in drag, multiple wives, charges of fascist style leadership
mentioning of 9/11 about a billion times
most early voters had no clue who the hell else was running
directly related to the media coverage given to him
plane had to divert to take him to the hospital, health issues

Summary, Mccain:

illegal immigrants flying everywhere
Vladimir Putin is "president" of Germany
hope he blows his stack on live TV
possible film held as blackmail to keep him in place and puppeteered

The only thing I can see from the list is the media coverage given to him (mccain) becoming less, but that probably won't happen..

The rudy list tells me people started doing research, this is good. What I don't understand is why they didn't look at Ron Paul too.