Obama's speech right now

[aravoth]

I've been listening to this for god knows how long. I have taken one thing out of it.

Obama will kick the living shit out of Huckabee, or Mccain. Period.

Ron Paul was the only one who could have competed with this guy. And the GOP marginalized him, they laughed at him on national TV. After I vote for ron paul in the general, I will never, not ever vote for the GOP again.

I cannot believe how unbelievably stupid the GOP is.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Obama will kick the living shit out of Huckabee, or Mccain. Period.

Yep...

[affa]

absolutely.

Obama is going to be HARD to beat. That's why some of us (who live in very liberal areas) think the VP should be someone I won't bother to mention here.

[itshappening]

did Obama actually say anything or did he just talk about 'change' and a 'new movement in america' and the need for 'a new and clear direction that reaches out to everyone all over this great land' (woohooo)

[AFM]

I had to turn it off
he is RETARDED on economics
RETARDED

[coffeewithchess]

Yea, RP could take Obama on the Iraq war, Patriot Act, and spending...not to mention RP would get the "Christian right"...Obama would be shown the liberal and fake he is.

[aravoth]

I had to turn it off
he is RETARDED on economics
RETARDED

Of course he is, but so are the vast majority of americans.

I nearly swallowed my beer bottle when he said "i'll raise the mninmum wage every year to keep up with inflation".........rofl, BWHAHAHAHA he does that shit he'd have to raise it every day.

[Avalon]

The Rezko scandal is going to get much worse at the end of the month. Clinton will be the nominee.

[AFM]

Exactly, I heard that shit too
And people eat that up
When you dont know anything of economics, it sounds perfectly reasonable. Hey, higher mandated wages, less poor people! right?

[margomaps]

It's pretty sad when a slick-Willy politician speaking whatever nonsense Obama is saying -- a lot of words with no meaning and no substance, except for some nebulous promise of change that sounds an awful lot like socialism -- garners legions of adoring zealots.

I'm sure plenty of people think Paul's zealots are creepy, but at least we believe in something specific. Those who go gaga over Obama want change -- and that's the extent of it. No elaboration on what exactly that change is supposed to be, except possibly some Cuban-style health care system that we can't possibly afford.

[Molly1]

I couldn't figure out what he intends to do---other than transform the world, that is, preferably using my money. :rolleyes:

[Lou337]

Please rephrase to make it clearer what you meant about the Cuban-style health care system that we can't afford.

They have great doctors, and more for every person than here in the US. Just no money for medicines.

[margomaps]

Please rephrase to make it clearer what you meant about the Cuban-stule health care system that we can't afford.

Ah, that was a little hyperbole on my part. He wants socialist-style universal health care which is obscenely expensive. I just picked Cuba to reinforce the socialist cred that Obama has.

[Jeremy]

The GOP is stupid now, but we can fix it. Which is why you shouldn't say you'll never vote for it again.

[Rob]

Like a typical Obama voter, I didn't listen to the speech or read any of the posts in this thread, and so is he still for Change? I like Change because it's different from what we have now Obama 2008!!!!

Excuse me while I watch Obama Girl another 100 times

[LibertyRevolution]

RP vs Obama would not be pretty.
Obama is a really really great speaker. Ron Paul is not.
Obama would speak, the people would be entranced, they would cheer when he finishes. Ron Pauls would step up to the mic, he would look like a frail looking old man (fallowing obama), he would stumble through his speech, using terms people have no clue about, scaring the crap out of them with truth. When Ron Paul got done talking most of the crowd would look like dear in headlights. :p

[wfd40]

did Obama actually say anything or did he just talk about 'change' and a 'new movement in america' and the need for 'a new and clear direction that reaches out to everyone all over this great land' (woohooo)

::yawn::

That line doesn't work any more man... Obama has his positions, just like Paul does. This speech was moving - regardless of specific policy or lack there of - Paul could've used a little of Obama mojo if you ask me... Ron Reagan certainly approached public speeches like Obama...

But yeah.. all the right-wing-libertarians can still hold their noses in the air due to their overwhelming moral superiority over the many masses of people who simply want change, and a better america... (which of course, dr. Paul would've provided for, if he only had the talent around him to make something of the 30million we sent his ass)

[margomaps]

They have great doctors, and more for every person than here in the US. Just no money for medicines.

I wasn't making a judgment about the quality of doctors in a socialist medical system versus a free market system (although I'd argue that the U.S. probably has among the best doctors in the world at some of the elite medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins). I was saying that Obama has socialist tendencies, and if you care about freedom one iota, you have to reject all the wealth-redistribution aspects of socialism on principle -- and socialized health care definitely falls into that category.

[aravoth]

The GOP is stupid now, but we can fix it. Which is why you shouldn't say you'll never for for it again.

Realistically speaking, the GOP won't be fixed for a long, long time. And after this election, they will be in a very bad way.

In the meantime there is us. And we are ignored, marginalized, denegrated, and laughed at. And we are the ones screaming at the top of our lungs for some to listen to us, becaase what we are saying is true. Most of it isn't nice, most of it isn't pretty, but all of it, is true.

What i probably should have said was, "I will only vote for classic libertarian consevative types" But I am not going to lie and say that I have any party loyalty anymore. I've always voted republican, in every election. I will never be so blind again.

[rg123]

I was watching his speach he is a spectacular speaker it is very easy to get caught
up with him. Barack is like Charisma on steroids very well dressed and smooth as silk. It's too bad his approach is socialist when it comes to voting on bills and the
thing that bothers me most is he's a constitutional lawyer and knows better. If he gets the Dem nod which I think he will. If the DNC tries to throw the super delegates to Clinton they will tear the building down. No republican will beat this guy only Ron could seriously have a chance or even match him for the constitution and knowledge

[Shii]

Ah, that was a little hyperbole on my part. He wants socialist-style universal health care which is obscenely expensive. I just picked Cuba to reinforce the socialist cred that Obama has.

Obama's health care is different from Hillary's in that you don't have to buy in if you don't want to. I think that earns him some libertarian cred.

[wgadget]

did Obama actually say anything or did he just talk about 'change' and a 'new movement in america' and the need for 'a new and clear direction that reaches out to everyone all over this great land' (woohooo)

I think if there's a new movement in America, we're gonna need RP to flush it down.

[aravoth]

Obama's health care is different from Hillary's in that you don't have to buy in if you don't want to. I think that earns him some libertarian cred.

think again.

[ArrestPoliticians]

RP vs Obama would not be pretty.
Obama is a really really great speaker. Ron Paul is not.
Obama would speak, the people would be entranced, they would cheer when he finishes. Ron Pauls would step up to the mic, he would look like a frail looking old man (fallowing obama), he would stumble through his speech, using terms people have no clue about, scaring the crap out of them with truth. When Ron Paul got done talking most of the crowd would look like dear in headlights. :p

RP would make Obama look like a total moron in the debates. Period. Obama SAYS NOTHING WHEN HE TALKS.

[CrownThyGood]

I coulda swore he referred to the bush regime as being fascist and tyrannical ..
anyone hear that part?

[wfd40]

think again.

obama got endorsed by volker... something tells me he knows what a mess we're in right now...

the way i see it.. if the money is gonna get spent (which it will, bc dr. paul is not winning this thing).. I'd at least much rather see it spent here at home trying to effect some kind of positive economic/social change (re: increase education spending, increase alternative energy funding etc.) than in the fucking desert of Iraq, which is exactly what the GOP wants to do (re: cut spending here, increase spending overseas).. its a god damn tragedy.

BP just got a ton of praise for being 'the most forward thinking oil/energy company'.. because of all the money they are putting into research towards alternative energies..

Want to know how much?? 8 billion dollars! WOOOHH... over 10 years!!! WOOWWOWW..

We spend 8 billion dollars a month in Iraq man...

Sometimes, free markets just don't work.. not with bastards like big oil.

[margomaps]

Obama's health care is different from Hillary's in that you don't have to buy in if you don't want to. I think that earns him some libertarian cred.

Bwahahahahha! Libertarian cred for a socialized national health care plan? I'm afraid you don't understand the first thing about libertarianism, if you think Obama deserves libertarian cred for "allowing" people to not participate in socialized medicine. Did you miss the part where he's going to impose new rules and regulations on private health insurance companies via an oversight watchdog (i.e., bureacracy), increase Medicaid and SCHIP spending, and...oh yeah, PROVIDE PUBLICLY-FUNDED HEALTH CARE TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS IT?? Surely you don't think these things can be accomplished without raising taxes steeply, do you?

Libertarian cred....bwahahahahha!!!

[AFM]

obama got endorsed by volker... something tells me he knows what a mess we're in right now...

the way i see it.. if the money is gonna get spent (which it will, bc dr. paul is not winning this thing).. I'd at least much rather see it spent here at home trying to effect some kind of positive economic/social change (re: increase education spending, increase alternative energy funding etc.) than in the fucking desert of Iraq, which is exactly what the GOP wants to do (re: cut spending here, increase spending overseas).. its a god damn tragedy.

BP just got a ton of praise for being 'the most forward thinking oil/energy company'.. because of all the money they are putting into research towards alternative energies..

Want to know how much?? 8 billion dollars! WOOOHH... over 10 years!!! WOOWWOWW..

We spend 8 billion dollars a month in Iraq man...

Sometimes, free markets just don't work.. not with bastards like big oil.

Just like Standard Oil, right? :rolleyes:

[gjdavis60]

The Republican party is officially irrelevant. We're getting a Democratic house, senate and president in '08. Period. Deal with it.

The new administration will carry on the traditions of big government, the welfare state, and an extravagant, arrogant foreign policy. The economy will continue to struggle under the weight of excessive spending and the Fed's destruction of the dollar. Our civil liberties will continue to be undermined as it suits our rulers.

Our message will continue to resonate with people who have figured out that government has become the problem.

I think we can get some Ron Paul Republicans into federal, state and local office, but I think that is all that is on the table at this time.

Continue to spread the message. Support our people running for office. Stay engaged. Keep fighting.

[QCB79]

Someone tell Obama you can't put a band aid on an amputation and call it fixed. I'd also like to hear where the rest of theses candidates with these big plans are going to get all the money for the programs they are promising

[AFM]

They're are going to print it asshole. Have you not learned that the more bills you have, the wealthier you are? Why do you think we keep printing money?

[rg123]

They're are going to print it asshole. Have you not learned that the more bills you have, the wealthier you are? Why do you think we keep printing money?

Good one :D

[wfd40]

Just like Standard Oil, right? :rolleyes:

so you're saying that BP's spending of a paltry 8billion dollars over 10 friggin years is respectable or perhaps even 'what the market calls for'??LOL These guys could care less about other, more efficient means of provided energy/power because the bloody margins on oil are insane... it aint gonna happen bud. period. These aren't the free markets RP 'idealizes' about.. the real world is a lot more screwed up and without him in control, its not going to change unless someone puts some serious weight down...

We piss billion in Iraq every other day... no one even bats an eye. But god forbid we spend that same 100billion making schools a little better or pay teachers a little more.. i know, keep it local - but guess what, that aint gonna happen either..

Assuming that its gonna get spent anyways (which it will.. dr. paul is not going to be president unfortunately) would you rather it spent here or Iraq??

[RonPauledbyYoutube]

I am afraid we are stuck with big gov until it collapses an evolves into NAU. RP was the last hope to change that but his affirmation of not running 3rd party has completely vanished the hope of making some changes in our nation. I honestly don't think Barack will change the war issue as he has said. As a matter of fact he has campaigned on “winning” the war on terror and on withdrawing from Iraq. I think that as a member of the CFR he’s got to fall in ranks and stay in line with the top dogs. That together with socialized healthcare will bring this nation to it’s knees sooner than we think.

Even if we could wait, unfortunately with don’t have anyone else in congress or in any level of this stinking gov to prep for 2012. By the way, I doubt we will have the same gov structure as we have now. Sorry to say, but it will be worse.

[aravoth]

obama got endorsed by volker... something tells me he knows what a mess we're in right now...

the way i see it.. if the money is gonna get spent (which it will, bc dr. paul is not winning this thing).. I'd at least much rather see it spent here at home trying to effect some kind of positive economic/social change (re: increase education spending, increase alternative energy funding etc.) than in the fucking desert of Iraq, which is exactly what the GOP wants to do (re: cut spending here, increase spending overseas).. its a god damn tragedy.

BP just got a ton of praise for being 'the most forward thinking oil/energy company'.. because of all the money they are putting into research towards alternative energies..

Want to know how much?? 8 billion dollars! WOOOHH... over 10 years!!! WOOWWOWW..

We spend 8 billion dollars a month in Iraq man...

Sometimes, free markets just don't work.. not with bastards like big oil.

Dude, we don't have a free market, we have a hugely regulated market. If the government wasn't throwing money at oil companies left and right, if the government hadn't taken over the education system, we'd have clean energy, probably would have had it by 1960.

[familydog]

I've been listening to this for god knows how long. I have taken one thing out of it.

Obama will kick the living shit out of Huckabee, or Mccain. Period.

Ron Paul was the only one who could have competed with this guy. And the GOP marginalized him, they laughed at him on national TV. After I vote for ron paul in the general, I will never, not ever vote for the GOP again.

I cannot believe how unbelievably stupid the GOP is.

As much as I don't want to see Obama president, I'd love to see him smack the smirk off McCain and the GOPs face. No, I'm not voting for him or supporting him.

[aravoth]

I am afraid we are stuck with big gov until it collapses an evolves into NAU. RP was the last hope to change that but his affirmation of not running 3rd party has completely vanished the hope of making some changes in our nation. I honestly don't think Barack will change the war issue as he has said. As a matter of fact he has campaigned on “winning” the war on terror and on withdrawing from Iraq. I think that as a member of the CFR he’s got to fall in ranks and stay in line with the top dogs. That together with socialized healthcare will bring this nation to it’s knees sooner than we think.

Even if we could wait, unfortunately with don’t have anyone else in congress or in any level of this stinking gov to prep for 2012. By the way, I doubt we will have the same gov structure as we have now. Sorry to say, but it will be worse.

Barack won't change shit, he voted to fund the war all the way into 2010. He also voted to increase the budget for the pentagon by 500 bnillion dollars, and then he voted to gradually increase it over a period of 5 years.

If any of you think he understands fiscal, monetary or foreign policy, your wrong, period.

[DahuiHeeNalu]

I'm 23 and will continue Ron Paul congress we will win everybody this movement is so much stronger then they know. we can make these changes we stand together look at the new Alaskan republican party they have made HUGE CHANGES!!!

[wfd40]

Dude, we don't have a free market, we have a hugely regulated market. If the government wasn't throwing money at oil companies left and right, if the government hadn't taken over the education system, we'd have clean energy, probably would have had it by 1960.

i know man.. i agree 100%

but the reality is so god damn different.. especially today, just a month since the very first primary.

If Dr. Paul had been aggressive with his ads (used your videos even in 30minute infomercials - challenged the voters to look at what he stands for, beat hard on the war issue and fiscal issues, take on the msm blackout asking people why a guy who just raised 20million dollars - obama and clinton type funding - received only 1% of all presidential coverage (citing studies)).. if he had spent and acted boldly the morning after we sent him 4.3 million dollars (and even more boldly the morning after 6.1million) perhaps the reality of today would be a bit different.. perhaps we wouldnt be sitting here, wondering what if...

perhaps i wouldn't be sitting here saying, whats the lesser of two evils.. spend money here on "social programs" or "cut all domestic spending and go nuts overseas"??

[smartguy911]

Obama will kick the living shit out of Huckabee, or Mccain. Period.

yup yup..i can just imagine both huck and Mac crying during debates

[OptionsTrader]

I've been listening to this for god knows how long. I have taken one thing out of it.

Obama will kick the living shit out of Huckabee, or Mccain. Period.

Ron Paul was the only one who could have competed with this guy. And the GOP marginalized him, they laughed at him on national TV. After I vote for ron paul in the general, I will never, not ever vote for the GOP again.

I cannot believe how unbelievably stupid the GOP is.

Agreed.

[NEPA_Revolution]

+1776

[Revolution9]

RP vs Obama would not be pretty.
Obama is a really really great speaker. Ron Paul is not.
Obama would speak, the people would be entranced, they would cheer when he finishes. Ron Pauls would step up to the mic, he would look like a frail looking old man (fallowing obama), he would stumble through his speech, using terms people have no clue about, scaring the crap out of them with truth. When Ron Paul got done talking most of the crowd would look like dear in headlights. :p

Where the fuck did you crawl out of. I got my eye on you pal. Ron is an amazing off the cuff speaker and is not a plastic bobblehead doll like obama. Croak shill. Obamas money man is Skull and Bones. Same Bush legacy. Suck on that shill. Ron ain't got any CFR or Skull and Bones near him.

Randy

[Carole]

I really have to disagree that Obama is a "spectacular speaker". I usually can only take about thirty seconds of listening to him. It is all glitz and empty vague words.

Of course, I realize this appeals to millions of people, but frankly I find his speaking totally forgettable. :p

[Carole]

Obama is a poor debater.

[constitutional]

RP vs Obama would not be pretty.
Obama is a really really great speaker. Ron Paul is not.
Obama would speak, the people would be entranced, they would cheer when he finishes. Ron Pauls would step up to the mic, he would look like a frail looking old man (fallowing obama), he would stumble through his speech, using terms people have no clue about, scaring the crap out of them with truth. When Ron Paul got done talking most of the crowd would look like dear in headlights. :p

Screw that analysis, if the sheeple don't wake up now... we will be in for a huge.. trouble.

[constitutional]

Obama is a poor debater.

correct, he can give speeches but when it comes to debate (i've watch it only once) he is crap.

RP can pwn him. :D