OMG, some people actually want a NWO?

[berrybunches]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

[Michael Ingram]

Yes, one of my friends supported Barack Obama, but then switched to Clinton because she was more pro-Israel. I then asked how we would pay for universal healthcare. He didn't have an answer other than "The government's role is to give things to the people". I answered, "NO, the government's role is to protect people's rights".

[Jeremy]

It doesn't matter how book smart you are... in fact the people I know who are smart on current issues / politics are average.

[joelmatton]

I've come across several people on the internet, regular average joes, that want a one-world-government. I don't just mean "They like the UN" either, they literally say they think it would be a good idea to have a global government, like a world-wide European Union. One guy in particular on a forum I post on has said stuff like "A one world government is the only thing that can stop wars and create peace. Unfortunately people aren't ready for it, and sadly we probably won't see it in our lifetime". UGH :mad:

[paulette]

Just think of how "none of the children left behind" will think. Scary.

[Crickett]

I've come across several people on the internet, regular average joes, that want a one-world-government. I don't just mean "They like the UN" either, they literally say they think it would be a good idea to have a global government, like a world-wide European Union. One guy in particular on a forum I post on has said stuff like "A one world government is the only thing that can stop wars and create peace. Unfortunately people aren't ready for it, and sadly we probably won't see it in our lifetime". UGH :mad:

Do not people realize what this country did to fight for freedom against the Alexander Greats of the world? Are they SERIOUS? They better be careful when the revolution continues. That attitude would have marked them in the late 1700's..but then, again, they probably would have stayed in England. Overtaxxed, and trying to rule the world..ugh. Blue Pill..

[Delaware]

Most Americans are just too stupid.

[JeNNiF00F00]

I just had this type convo with my sister. She says the socialism/communism in Europe is excellent and thinks that the govt taking money out of our checks would be practically the same thing as having to pay for the doctor. She is also an Obama supporter. It really scares me. So I gave her a bunch of links on the CFR, Patriot Act and HR 1955. She probably will not get it, altho she is very intellectual.

[freelance]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

This is what your tax dollars are buying at every level of federal education. Even private schools take tax dollars in exchange for studies, research, curricula--all of which must be federally approved, including the OUTCOME of the studies. This is one of the scariest things I've read in a long time. People can no longer think for themselves. Her beliefs are precisely WHY she has a 4.0 GPA.

[Gadsden Flag]

People are allowed to disagree with Ron Paul without being stupid.

[LibertyOfOne]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)


Wow talk about a bunch of mindless idiots.

[Ex Post Facto]

My experience with college graduates, about 75% of them are educated idiots. It's a status thing. As a business owner myself the only thing that a college graduate shows me is that the person is "trainable and committed." That means I know if I give them some lame excuse for something they won't challenge it. What they don't realize is I like a good debate, and the person that challenges me and proves me wrong would probably get promoted.

[AlexMerced]

yeah a lot of my friends in college actually even refer to themselves as collectivist and are confused when i say it's a bad thing

some people get it... yet still choose the wrong path, it's sad

[Jeremy]

My experience with college graduates, about 75% of them are educated idiots. It's a status thing. As a business owner myself the only thing that a college graduate shows me is that the person is "trainable and committed." That means I know if I give them some lame excuse for something they won't challenge it. What they don't realize is I like a good debate, and the person that challenges me and proves me wrong would probably get promoted.

Can I work for you? lol

[Broadlighter]

You know I would support a one-world government and peace would be nice too, but not under the terms that advocates are pushing.

A global government based on inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be great, but that's not what it's about. it's about an elite few controlling and dominating the world's economy and living environment. Peace is fine as long as its not imposed on us from the barrel of a gun or enforced by courts and threats of confiscating one's property.


Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"


Also Obama recently signed the Democrat-sponsored American Freedom Pledge (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=239574)to return to Constitutional principles. The Obama supporter needs to take note.

[LibertyOfOne]

I think I need to go drink some whiskey after reading that garbage. It's super depressing.

[Janet0116]

Yes, just like Ron says, it's not a conspiracy. :lol Some people are globalists, some people are nationalists. It's not a big secret.

[virginiakid]

I've come across several people on the internet, regular average joes, that want a one-world-government. I don't just mean "They like the UN" either, they literally say they think it would be a good idea to have a global government, like a world-wide European Union. One guy in particular on a forum I post on has said stuff like "A one world government is the only thing that can stop wars and create peace. Unfortunately people aren't ready for it, and sadly we probably won't see it in our lifetime". UGH :mad:

No, having a one world government will promote wars. Rome had dominence in its time and they were in constant wars and civil wars. This will be the same. Not only that, but fiscally will be impossible to maintain and will crumble.

[TruthAtLast]

I've come across several people on the internet, regular average joes, that want a one-world-government. I don't just mean "They like the UN" either, they literally say they think it would be a good idea to have a global government, like a world-wide European Union. One guy in particular on a forum I post on has said stuff like "A one world government is the only thing that can stop wars and create peace. Unfortunately people aren't ready for it, and sadly we probably won't see it in our lifetime". UGH :mad:

A major problem is that people assume that current Governments work in the best interest of the people. They don't realize how corrupt it really is. They don't know how wealth is transfered from "the people" to those in power, bankers, and Wall Street.

And BECAUSE they really believe that our government works for us, they think a WORLD GOVERNMENT would work for the best interest of the whole world. They think that a NWO would eliminate racial and religious wars because it could keep everyone in line.

But the international roll of the bankers has been to CREATE wars. Nothing throughout history creates more debt than war. And if you fund the winning side, enough to win, and the losing side enough to maintain the hope of winning, then the debt goes through the roof and the interest on that debt makes them very very wealthy.

But since the Governments really have no money except the money they get from the People, these bankers are really taking it from the People, not the government. The President and the Congress aren't taxed... it is the People who are taxed to pay off that Interest of the debt that is largely accumulated through WAR.

This is a roll of Government that goes against everything that Governments are meant to do. People think slavery is over... yeah right. We are ALL slaves to our Government and the problem is that these "educated" people who want world peace and think a New World Order can provide it, don't realize that the entire thing is a sham. It is smoke a mirrors.

[icon124]

My experience with college graduates, about 75% of them are educated idiots. It's a status thing. As a business owner myself the only thing that a college graduate shows me is that the person is "trainable and committed." That means I know if I give them some lame excuse for something they won't challenge it. What they don't realize is I like a good debate, and the person that challenges me and proves me wrong would probably get promoted.

I know what you mean...right now I'm a senior in college and I come across people like this everyday. Most of the kids at my school are the type of people that go along with whatever they hear, so therefore easy to train. I rarely come across people that are independently driven and question things when it seems fishy. It actually really scares me. Even some of my teachers are like this.

At the beginning of this semester my teacher decided to go around the room and ask everyone what they were gonna do once they graduated (this is a finance class BTW) and most answers were basically "become a slave and be content with it" or "I really don't think to much about that"...of course I was almost the last person to answer...so after hearing 20 people say the same thing I said...work for myself because I could never see myself pratically giving my soul to a company for an average return and I really could never be happy not making my own decisions...the instructor honestly took maybe 10 seconds to respond with...that's a little different huh?

So even the instructors are completely brainwashed...not all (I do know a few who are like me)...it is a sad state we live in...considering this story is from a college campus too...

[NinjaPirate]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

Pleaes tell me she's NOT serious!!!! http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/throwup.gif

[Gadsden Flag]

^^^ People can believe sincerely in an ideology other than ours without being brainswahed morons.

[NinjaPirate]

^^^ People can believe sincerely in an ideology other than ours without being brainswahed morons.

I can possibly see where a one world government can work, but it's like what Mike Gravel said, "...by the people FOR the people." Unless the human race can supress the strong urges of power and corruption, then we will never be ready for that type of thing. A government of that magnitude will have to be kept in check in order for the people of the world to be completley free.

[Dieseler]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

Its absolutely insane.
This website explains Fabian Socialism pretty well and gives a pretty good explanation to the frame of mind that has been instilled into American minds these days.
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/Community-Policing.htm

I know a lot of you are not Christians and I'm definitely not trying to start a pissing match with any of you who are not but check it out and see what ya think.

[berrybunches]

I don't think people that think like this are stupid, that would be like saying Hitler was stupid. I think the are smart, making the ideology even scarier.
They think that having a one world governance will cause peace.

What these people do not understand is that the resistance (us and most of the world) will not stand for it. I did not tell her this but I would honest to God, die before allowing myself to be a part of a NWO. I think MOST people in the united states would feel this was, and I think they woudl fight and kill to keep our sovereignty. So her "peace" movement would become a bloodbath.
....kinda like the "peace/stability" movement we have gong on in the middle east right now lol

[stilltrying]

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People are allowed to disagree with Ron Paul without being stupid.

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'We must make the world safe for democracy'--Woodrow Wilson, 1917
'We gotta make democracy safe for the world'--Walt Kelly, 1970

Normal People For Ron Paul: If think 9/11 wasn't an inside job, that the elections aren't rigged, that there is not a mainstream media conspiracy against Ron Paul, click here.

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"We must make the world safe for democracy" is exactly what they are doing only with a twist.

Be careful of your quotes of Woodrow Wilson as that is exactly CFR talk.

[Archie]

IF you want someone to blame for this Tripe coming out of these healthy young people's mouth's its Noam Chomsky he is one of the elite Gatekeeper's to make sure that the coming generations sound like all these Obama Usefull idiots to promote elite rope a dope Globalism. I was a Master in debating way back in my School days and it was easy for me to really smash this morons to bits with simple examples of what "Freedom vs Slavery " is and "collectivism vs individualism" in a political theory . And while some aspects of collective unity are great and very decent, there not at all in a "political system " though because that will always lead you down the marxist death cult of the soviet union were 10 times the amount of people died from that horrible "political collectivism" then died in even Germany WW2.

Again this kind of stuff will still go an with guys like Noam Chomsky leading the "intellectuals" of today in "social mov'ts" Every American must be aware of this gatekeeping Elitist phony counter-culture types they will destroy countries and there people's in them like they did in marxist russia and in southeast-asia as well as Africa like what that nasty commie Mugabe has done. When you are in your political science class and you hear these tripe go un-challenged stand up and sound the alarm on them that you will fight them every step of the way because you see that there shills for collectivist dictatorships and gov't tryanny instead of claiming there for the "common good" and they are anti-imperialists which is a flat out diversion so you dont attack them there are The Scum of society as jackie chan puts it LOL!!!!!

GO out there And stand up to these Dopes that are promoting the gatekeeper elite like the noam chomsky's of the world who have there "meat hooks" in every college and university kids brain.. Alot of the problem too is these kids only mean well and dont understand that some of the biggest hellish bloodbaths in history were started because people never figured out that sometimes the road to evil is paved with good intentions [like the people in russia where they thought there were doing good overthrowing the Czar dynasty,and in germany where the people actually thought hitler cared about germany's ill's]

[Dieseler]

Archie

Hook us up with some good sites. I need more info on the subject of countering socialism in all its forms and its hard to find. I basically understand the problems but I am not educated on the subject enough to make a point against when its all wrapped in candy the way they present it in the Schools these days.
I have a 19 year old and a 15 year old I'm trying to get straightened out.
Anything on debating them will do.

[Archie]

Archie

Hook us up with some good sites. I need more info on the subject of countering socialism in all its forms and its hard to find. I basically understand the problems but I am not educated on the subject enough to make a point against when its all wrapped in candy the way they present it in the Schools these days.
I have a 19 year old and a 15 year old I'm trying to get straightened out.
Anything on debating them will do.

There is no better way then showing that 15 year old and 19 year old what socialism is like . Here is a great way to do it . Have both of them do a Chore where they will get paid except make sure you tell them Who Ever does More Work will get paid more, Now the this will set them up good assumming that one of your kids will work harder then the other one . When that happens and it comes down to paying your kids for the work they have done "Do not Reward the Harder worker woth more money" instead give even the worker who wasnt as hard working the same pay as the other guy , What and see if the harder working kid gets upset or says "what how come he gets paid the same" and then say well "isnt that the sort of fair system you want" then when they ponder tell them thats exactly what communism and socialism will lead to "Upset workers" because they dont get paid by there skill instead they get paid "collectivly" instead ..

Then after you made your point be nice to them and pay the harder working kid a little more and tell him Thanks for working your heart out Unlike some socialist I do Appreciate someone putting extra hard work into something ..




If thats to harsh to do to them Then Give me some time and I will bring you some great links and stuff to use against "socialist utopia" crapola LOL!!!!! :)


But if you plan out my first set of advice down good it will really strike a cord with them .

Also if your kids are into Music then try finding some Cool music to get them turned on to freedom and liberty instead of socialism. If they like HardRock I suggest a band called Pokerface they sound like Metallica and Alice n chains roleld into one...

[Dieseler]

Thanks Archie. Sounds like a good point making experiment.
Looking forward to the links to further my education and theirs.
I'm a 40 year old retired metal drummer myself so I will be checking out Pokerface for myself as well.
Retired lol, I try to make it sound that serious
so I don't feel bad about not playing anymore.

[Sauron]

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?
College is no place for anyone who values knowledge. It's where you go to get told what your opinion must be.

[Archie]

Thanks Archie. Sounds like a good point making experiment.
Looking forward to the links to further my education and theirs.
I'm a 40 year old retired metal drummer myself so I will be checking out Pokerface for myself as well.
Retired lol, I try to make it sound that serious
so I don't feel bad about not playing anymore.


here is a small article aswell that gets some good points in...

http://beta.morons.org/tally-ho/article/read/84;jsessionid=9FC1783C8CAA4ED8B7358D8DC435BB0A


Also in order to really have a great impact your gonna need to know who is influencing them the most be it some teacher at school one parent,or some "trendy new punk band" You gotta know why your kids are taking the bait and who is the culprit there looking upto.. I ndoing these you will be able to dissect there heroes and there heroes words little by little without your kids even noticing untill it finnaly clicks that socialism is Just a nice way of saying "Dictatorship by the state" and they will slowly learn how many freedoms it can take away with too much regulations in peoples affairs..

Oh and you will probably really like Pokerface if you were on old metalhead yourself they are not To heavy but they do have that metal sound that is very much easy to hear in there sound...

If your kids are into the whole Hip-hop thing your in for a Great battle LOL!!!!!! If there into more Rock n Roll Punk/alternative it will be alot easier...


When I debate I keep it Simple I try to Connect the dots of the persons hypocrisy's and call them on it so the best way is also to bait them into a position that you know will set them up for Ruin ,Try getting them to take a stand on something socialist and then show then the hyocrisy of it .

But to tell ya the truth the best way is to show them first hand, take them to the slums in america Drive buy them if its to dangerous but let them understand what "socialism" had led to , in that it has stripped individual's of any of there creative talents and energy to "get up and do something" and just rewarded them with the "collective iron fist" which does not care for creativity in individual's talents and work, and all that does is make the society especially the poor people not even bother anymore because they realize "creativity and hard work" doesnt pay any incentives and they just settle for welfare and living in the slums..

But ya it should be very easy to find stuff countering socialism try lewrockwell's site aswell

[Mik3_D]

No, having a one world government will promote wars. Rome had dominence in its time and they were in constant wars and civil wars. This will be the same. Not only that, but fiscally will be impossible to maintain and will crumble.

Good.

[Mini-Me]

You know I would support a one-world government and peace would be nice too, but not under the terms that advocates are pushing.

A global government based on inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be great, but that's not what it's about. it's about an elite few controlling and dominating the world's economy and living environment. Peace is fine as long as its not imposed on us from the barrel of a gun or enforced by courts and threats of confiscating one's property.



Also Obama recently signed the Democrat-sponsored American Freedom Pledge (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=239574)to return to Constitutional principles. The Obama supporter needs to take note.


I can possibly see where a one world government can work, but it's like what Mike Gravel said, "...by the people FOR the people." Unless the human race can supress the strong urges of power and corruption, then we will never be ready for that type of thing. A government of that magnitude will have to be kept in check in order for the people of the world to be completley free.

Broadlighter and NinjaPirate, here's the thing: The further government gets away from the people, the easier it is to become completely corrupt and unaccountable to the people. Therefore, no matter what era we're talking about or how centralization of power comes about, centralization of power inevitably leads to tyranny, no matter what. No matter how a government comes into power or what rights it starts out recognizing, you must understand that power-hungry and corrupt people will always be the ones to seek power, and once they have it, they will always seek more. It's just human nature (or at least the nature of the worst among us). While you acknowledge that there have to be mechanisms to keep the government in check, you need to understand that decentralization of power is the most important mechanism we have to fight tyranny, and that's exactly what a one-world government eliminates. Allowing for one-world government ever, even thousands of years from now, will only be handing absolute power to these people on a silver platter. Government constitutes a monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force, so the whole point of one-world government is to eliminate all dissent and resistance so that NOTHING else exists to keep its power in check. You've already seen how our decentralized Constitutional Republic has turned into a monstrous federal-run monopoly - right now, we're fighting such an uphill battle against it that we're nearly helpless to stop it. Now just imagine how badly a "Constitutional" one-world government could turn if it was not only even further from the people than our federal government, but also, if no other organized force in the world existed to oppose it!

Now, you say, "Unless the human race can supress the strong urges of power and corruption, then we will never be ready for that type of thing." Well, if the human race could suppress those urges, that still wouldn't be an excuse to allow for one-world government - rather, if we ever got to that point, we wouldn't need any government whatsoever! As James Madison once wrote,

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.


Now, to Gadsden Flag:

^^^ People can believe sincerely in an ideology other than ours without being brainswahed morons.
Perhaps "brainwashed morons" might be a bit strong of an accusation to paint all of them with, but speaking completely objectively, anyone who believes in one-world government in any way, shape, or form, is at the very least neglecting to consider the important points I mentioned above. Anyone who sincerely believes that one-world government is good for humanity simply does not understand the incredible dangers that centralized power poses. A failure to understand this is a failure to understand human history and human nature. Believing that government is some benevolent force that always has the people's interests at heart is nothing other than pure delusional ignorance.

Far too many people think, "Oh, if we had one-world government, there'd be peace!" Completely ignoring the showstopping danger of tyranny that must be avoided at all costs, even this statement is pretty untrue: Ordinary people rarely want or cause wars. Rather, wars are started by governments and the power-hungry people in control of them. Then, rather than fighting themselves, they drag the common people into the mess to fight for them.

Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
- Hermann Goering

If we had a one-world government, it's true that there would be no other government or nation for it to wage war upon. Instead, it would turn inward and wage war upon its own people. Until a one-world government has absolute totalitarian control over everything, it will use violence and threats of violence (as everything the government does is inherently a use of force) to transfer all power and wealth from the common people to those in charge. Any efforts the people make against this process would be considered violent acts of war and terrorism by the government. It is simply the way of things - power seeks power, and power also corrupts.

The human race can never afford to have a one-world government. Anyone who sincerely believes otherwise is misguided at the very least.

[Cap'n Crunk]

You know I would support a one-world government and peace would be nice too, but not under the terms that advocates are pushing.

A global government based on inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness would be great, but that's not what it's about. it's about an elite few controlling and dominating the world's economy and living environment. Peace is fine as long as its not imposed on us from the barrel of a gun or enforced by courts and threats of confiscating one's property.



Also Obama recently signed the Democrat-sponsored American Freedom Pledge (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=239574)to return to Constitutional principles. The Obama supporter needs to take note.

ding, ding, ding. Global government if done right would not be a bad thing. Now having said that, there is no way it would be done right. Countries would be given as many if not more rights that states originally had. Slowly but surely the NWO would take rights away from individual countries as has our federal government from states. Our inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness would disappear, if they were even give in the first place.

[LEK]

What are they teaching these people in college?

It's an extension of the No Child Left Behind DOE system. And I mean that sincerely. It's called "Group Think".

Your friend will get her wish...you can assure her of that.

[freelance]

Oh PUHLEASE. These people are parroting what they've "learned." Critical thinking is the enemy of today's educational system. Today's education amounts to training/retraining camps. If they were thinking critically, they wouldn't willingly turn their lives over to a third-party NWO.

[Liberté]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

Sad as it is, these type of people probably out number our movement. I doubt we can stop a Global Government, but maybe we can slow it down and ensure a few indivitual rights.

[berrybunches]

Sad as it is, these type of people probably out number our movement. I doubt we can stop a Global Government, but maybe we can slow it down and ensure a few indivitual rights.

I'm the OP. I do not think they do represent the majority of the country. Most US citizens are heavily opposed to things, such as a North American Union. It scares the crap out of them. It echoes "end of days" prophecies at the very least.
I think we can stop it. Remember, the US is not the only country that opposes this. There will be resistance everywhere, attacking them from every angle. I think we can only slow it down by trying to reverse some of its key elements. Keeping state sovereignty is key and should be our first step along with demanding an end to the Trans Texas Corridor on a more national scale.

[WilliamC]

Yep. My boss is a typical liberal and unapologetic. He thinks rich people should be forced to pay more taxes. He thinks everyone should be forced to get health insurance. He thinks it's a good thing for government to be big enough to control people because he doesn't think most of them know what's best for themselves.

And he doesn't see anything wrong with this attitude either.

Funny thing is he has no desire himself to control anyone or anything, he's actually a rather nervous, timid person. I just thinks he wants big government to take care of him because he's to afraid to be responsible for his own life.

[DAFTEK]

Most Americans are just too stupid.

This is why my plans for the future is to get the fuck out of the New United States of Neocons!

[Liberté]

I'm the OP. I do not think they do represent the majority of the country. Most US citizens are heavily opposed to things, such as a North American Union. It scares the crap out of them. It echoes "end of days" prophecies at the very least.
I think we can stop it. Remember, the US is not the only country that opposes this. There will be resistance everywhere, attacking them from every angle. I think we can only slow it down by trying to reverse some of its key elements. Keeping state sovereignty is key and should be our first step along with demanding an end to the Trans Texas Corridor on a more national scale.

I don't think they are the majority, just that they out number us, i.e. bell curve, I truly believe most people are centrist.. they are followers (I hate the term sheeple)

[tommyzDad]

I've come across several people on the internet, regular average joes, that want a one-world-government. I don't just mean "They like the UN" either, they literally say they think it would be a good idea to have a global government, like a world-wide European Union. One guy in particular on a forum I post on has said stuff like "A one world government is the only thing that can stop wars and create peace. Unfortunately people aren't ready for it, and sadly we probably won't see it in our lifetime". UGH :mad:


I bet these kind of people are Star Trek fans! ;)

[Goldwater Conservative]

People are allowed to disagree with Ron Paul without being stupid.

There's disagreeing with Paul, then there's advocating a single authoritarian regime rule the entire world, thereby crippling my independence as an individual human being and making it virtually impossible for me (or any other person who's not a member of some narrow elite) to be part of the political process, whether I like it or not. I can deal with a socialist community next door, but apparently they couldn't likewise live with libertarians as neighbors. I'm not going to grin and "agree to disagree" when my natural rights and very freedom are on the line.

[InLoveWithRon]

predictable

[lastnymleft]

These people supporting the NWO need to go on a day-trip to Georgia, to see the Georgia Guidestones, to find out where the NWO is heading. Anyone not able to do the daytrip should google "Georgia Guidestones"

Then ask them: Who should be in the 500,000,000, and who should be in the 5,800,000,000? And who should decide?


NB: When the Georgia Guidestones were erected, world population was already 4,400,000,000...

[JGalt]

Most Americans are just too stupid.

QFT

[hillbilly]

Most Americans are just too stupid.

Between the flouride & the deliberate dumbing down & the fear tactics..... what else could the outcome be?

Utter stupidity. We're surrounded by idiots- AAACCCKKKK!!!!! :eek:


I've been pleasantly surprised with the Ron Paul rEVOLution, though........ there are far more who haven't been affected by the above as I thought.

It used to be a lonely, hermit-like existence before Ron Paul.

:)

[Mach]

If your kids are into the whole Hip-hop thing your in for a Great battle LOL!!!!!! If there into more Rock n Roll Punk/alternative it will be alot easier...

- Archie

Not into the Hip-Hop thing, but, here is one for the "one world" people that are. In general it has a good message to spread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKTJCWEeq8k


Yes, I'll spread the message in any way, shape or form.

[Patriot123]

Look. I'm all in support of a one world government THAT IS MADE BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE, personally, but really... Some people are just complete sheeple. They're in support of taking away their own liberties, and they don't even know it.

[freelance]

This is why my plans for the future is to get the fuck out of the New United States of Neocons!

escapeartist.com

[freelance]

Look. I'm all in support of a one world government THAT IS MADE BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE, personally, but really... Some people are just complete sheeple. They're in support of taking away their own liberties, and they don't even know it.

I'm not. Too many competing interests. For example, how do you reconcile our system of justice (or what it is supposed to be) with Sharia law? You don't.

[..PAUL4PRES..]

College is no place for anyone who values knowledge. It's where you go to get told what your opinion must be.

Im gonna have to disagree with you.

[Agent CSL]

Watch the John Birch Society's "UN Deception." It talks about the "pincer" strategy which sticks moles into organizations like environmentalists and women's rights. The people apply pressure on Congress from below, while the CFR and UN Advocates apply pressure from above. Even the best of congressmen can't fight against what the people want, even if the people are blinded by good intentions.

The best way to approach these people is by giving them books to read like 1984 or other Orwell's writings, making them understand Goebbel's propaganda, Marxist-Leninism, media bias. I think they'll eventually come around.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

The best course of action with your sister right now is to not debate with her about issues on the national level. Discussing issues on the national level today is a vain act because the American pursuit of happiness, the civil purpose our forefathers considered in the Constitution, is being ignored.

Sometimes the only answer to naive politics is "As an American, I would rather be dead than unhappy."

In regards to the pursuit of our happiness, our primary problem now on the national level has little to do with the issues of liberal and conservative politics. In fact, the problem has little to do with how our 2 party system on the national level has eroded to that of a single party. It is actually appropriate the way both parties share a similar moderate agenda on the Federal level. I mean, who cares? If one believes in the rights of states, then one isn't going to care that much about national politics.

The primary problem we all share today in regards to our happiness arises from how our media establishments have organized to endanger our Constitution through the way they sleep with the 1 party state we have on the national level. This type of whoring was the case back when the single party Communists employed a media in a similar fashion. Of course, those who worked for this "free" media during those bleak days in the Soviet Union always claimed to have the ability to report on the truth. They would also claim that their reporting had no effect on the outcomes of the 1 party Communist elections. This relationship between the media and the Communist party that employed them in the Soviet Union benefitted all involved financially, of course, as does a similar relationship between our media and the Demorepublicratican party who deploys them. Certainly this relationship has worked well today to create a national network who employs fabulously wealthy talking head reporters and expert spin doctors.

[Pauliana]

If you're 20 and a conservative you have no heart. If you're 40 and a liberal you have no brain. I think Churchill said that. It demonstrates the political evolution that people go through. Young people think with their hearts, then they get into the real world and wake up to reality...

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

If you're 20 and a conservative you have no heart. If you're 40 and a liberal you have no brain. I think Churchill said that. It demonstrates the political evolution that people go through. Young people think with their hearts, then they get into the real world and wake up to reality...

I don't see either liberals or conservatives cherishing the U.S. Constitution in regards to our happiness as American citizens. Indeed, a major reason I am a Ron Paul supporter who cheers his speeches is because I see in him someone who concerns himself primarily with the happiness of American citizens. In fact, both ends of the political system today seem to have lost sight of our forefathers existential purpose that we all seek after and try to acheive happiness.

Global warming is a good example of how our forefathers would interpret the Constitition. In regards to this issue, every policy implemented by our political leaders should be existential to the rights of U.S. citizens in that such decisions should only be made in regards to our happiness.

Or consider Hillary and her national healthcare campaign. In our forefather's view of what it is to be an American citizen, an American mother takes her child to see a doctor not so he or she will be healthy but to be happy. Having unhappy, albeit healthy children is not enough in that this will lead our nation into fighting for the missing ingredient of happiness -- a prerequisite need for human beings according to our forefather's interpretation of the Enlightenment.

It has been argued that this civil purpose has become part of our American heritage and culture. It is so much so that it supercedes even the legal bickering of our conservative and liberal politics. Such legal policies, which require the employment of lots of lawyers, have disregarded our civil need to be happy in favor of dividing us as black against white, men against women, husbands against wives, parents against children . . . etc..

[Alex Libman]

Earth is fucked. If you want to be free - work hard, save money, buy an apartment in a libertarian space station...

[InLoveWithRon]

wow

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Earth is fucked. If you want to be free - work hard, save money, buy an apartment in a libertarian space station...

I'm going to go fishing. Now I will have to work to go fishing, dammit. But fishing is what makes me happy as an American so I am easy. Some of us require much more to be happy than the simple life of fishing like BMW's, Frappuccino Starbucks coffee and freedom to choose to partake in experimental sex, but not me. Just give me the freedom to fish and a woman who knows how to bait a hook and I'm as happy as a lark.

[Midknight]

I've come across several people on the internet, regular average joes, that want a one-world-government. I don't just mean "They like the UN" either, they literally say they think it would be a good idea to have a global government, like a world-wide European Union. One guy in particular on a forum I post on has said stuff like "A one world government is the only thing that can stop wars and create peace. Unfortunately people aren't ready for it, and sadly we probably won't see it in our lifetime". UGH :mad:

Just to be clear, a one world government is a great idea. But not theirs. I personally won't accept a government that doesn't stand up to the test of the individual's rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And the current move to a marxist one world government is incompatible, not only with America, but with most of us.

If the one world government adopted the U.S. constitution, I'd be willing to give it a try. But, thats not going to happen, and we know this NWO isn't for the peoples benefit.

[Captain Shays]

If you go to Robert Mullers site and glom though his statements THEN you'll understand where this is coming from. He was instramental in directing the course of the UN. He and his minions. This is all part of the plan to indictrinate people all over the world into collectivist thinking and one world govt mentality. They teach courses on this stuff and the UN wants it to be a requirement.

[A. Havnes]

Does your sister support the war in Iraq? If no, then is she aware that America went to war under a UN resolution? Would she actually consider living in England? What about Japan, or any other country where government controls everything? Does she want to be told how to live her life?

History is riddled with the stories of the oppressed rising up against the powers of tyranny because they felt they were being controled, ripped off, or persecuted. Would a one-world government be exempt from these problems?

Question of the day: Why are people so stupid?!?

[pinkmandy]

Just to be clear, a one world government is a great idea. But not theirs. I personally won't accept a government that doesn't stand up to the test of the individual's rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And the current move to a marxist one world government is incompatible, not only with America, but with most of us.

If the one world government adopted the U.S. constitution, I'd be willing to give it a try. But, thats not going to happen, and we know this NWO isn't for the peoples benefit.


What? A one world govt is NEVER a good idea. Concentrating power into a central govt? Even the best govts can become corrupted (look at ours!). Our Constitution didn't protect us from those who seek power.

[Doktor_Jeep]

Look. Most of the people around us would drive themselves to the death camps if told to do so. They would pull up to the gate, not see the smokestacks, or hear the screams, and ask the guard where to park.

And if an escapee ran past the gate during this exchange, the guard would say, "Excuse me" then gun down the runner. He will then go back to telling the sheeploid where to park while the brainless One wondered "what did that person to do deserve getting shot? Oh well. I',m hungry. My feet hurt. Wonder what's on reality TV tonight. Baah baaah baah".

They want a one world NWO, they will surely get it.

We all need to form a community with each other, and make sure it's not our bones bleaching in the fields. The sheep will do as sheep always did and it will cost them. But we do not have to get dragged into their global gulag with them. We need to be everything from a self-sustaining network to a military force.

[ionlyknowy]

Crazy, I was talking to my sisters friend, an Obama supporter. I was saying how government needs to be downsized to ensure the government does not attain control over us and she says "but people need to be controlled"
uhg
Then I say something like well at least RP is the only one wanting out of the UN and she says "The UN needs to expand and get bigger"
She also says "The Mexicans deserve to be here more than us"
"We need one world currency like the Euro"
"Real ID cards are a good idea because they could help catch serial killers"
"There should be only one manufacturor or every grocery item because having to pick from several varieties is very stressful on people" ( yeah, I don't know about you but when I get home from the store I feel downright suicidal lol)

This is someone with a 4.0 GPA who graduated with honors. What are they teaching these people in college?

My dad kept telling me all the NWO stuff was crazy and a conspiracy...well it becomes less of one when you have everyday graduates pushing for it. I, for one, did not know that everyday people actually want this. This is crazy!

You have to tell us what major she was... and what type of school she went to...

a 4.0 GPA doesnt mean a thing... I could never attend class in a sociology, or business degree and still make high grades... I had friends in college that were always partying and never went to class in business and they did really well.

AND some schools are not very challenging.. free grades if you will.

[berrybunches]

To clear it up it was my sisters friend. not my sister, shes smart like me :p

She just got her bachelors in Psychology. The school, I think was a community college, its not the most challenging in the world but it is a good school with diverse teachers, small classrooms.
My sister goes there and she is getting a great education. She also happened to have a teacher who taught them that everything in the history books was wrong and sounded more like a conspiracy class than a history class.
The NWO utopia girl never had this teacher tho so I don't know why she thinks the way she does. It makes me very very upset tho.

[Wineman77]

People are allowed to disagree with Ron Paul without being stupid.

You are right, it does not make them stupid. But, anyone who supports a NWO that would hold power higher than the constitution or would destroy the constutuion is guilty of treason. Obama and the rest of them should be tried for treason.