GoApe4RonPaul2008
02-08-2008, 04:19 PM
McCain Not Eligible: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad are not part of the United States." State Dept. Foreign Affairs Manual
There are two (2) classes of citizens in America, not one (1):
http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/twoclass.htm
Yes, there is a common law principle of "jus sanguinis" (law of blood)
but one must expressly CHOOSE the citizenship of one's parents
INSTEAD OF the citizenship conferred by "jus soli" (law of the soil)
According to jus soli, he was not born a State Citizen
because Panama was not a State of the Union at that time,
and never was.
We presently have no evidence that McCain ever made
any notorious declaration(s) that he elected to be a
State Citizen instead. Confer at "Right of Election"
in this context.
On the contrary, if he is a registered voter in Arizona,
his voter registration application contains a statement,
certified under penalty of perjury, that he is a federal citizen.
That application is conclusive evidence,
admissible in a court of law.
Finally, there is no constitutional authority for the
proposition that all federal citizens are also
Citizens of the State in which they "reside",
because the so-called 14th Amendment
was never properly ratified.
Federal citizens were not even contemplated
when Article III, and hence Article II, was first
being drafted. See Pannill v. Roanoke:
http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/twoclass.htm#pannill
Accordingly, the record before us calls for
the conclusion that John McCain is a
federal citizen but not a State Citizen.
As such, he is not eligible for the office
of President of the United States of America.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a)
http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm
Criminal Investigator and Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13
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On Feb 7, 2008 5:15 AM, LOMA WHARTON .. wrote:
Were his parents people born here in this country they are one of the people and so is he, however he could ask for citizenship in Panama and have dual....................
Loma Wharton
www.lomaforclerk.com
www.theliberators11.org
Chairperson The Liberators 11 for the Public Interest
Oregon Lawmen Coordinator
NO DIRECT UN-APPORTIONED TAX CONFIRMED BY THE SUPREME COURT - Chas. C. Steward Mach. Co. v David, 301 U.S. 548, 581-582(1937)
The status of the U. S. Navy Hospital in the Panama Canal Zone is described
by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)):
"Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military installations abroad and
U. S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States
within the meaning of the 14th Amendment.
"A child born on the premises of such a facility is
not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and
does not acquire U. S. citizenship by reason of birth."
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=117101;title=AP FN
State Department Watch
UPDATE: McCain was born in Panama and not the US
Wed Feb 6, 2008 18:02
72.201.67.36
McCain was born in Panama and not the US
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:02:40 -0800
Is John McCain eligible to be elected President ?
Friday, February 01, 2008 - State Department Watch
Senator John McCain is apparently not eligible to be elected President of the United States under the clear provisions of the Constitution.
McCain is not a natural born citizen inasmuch as he was born in the U.S. Navy Hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, which was never part of the United States.
The Constitution states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible for the Office of President." The 14th Amendment did not alter this provision.
The status of the U. S. Navy Hospital in the Panama
Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)): "Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military installations abroad and U. S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U. S. citizenship by reason of birth."
This issue should be addressed as soon as possible.
State Department Watch
Carl Olson, Chairman
P. O. Box 6102
Woodland Hills, California 91365
----------------
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CJR: "McCain Lies His Ass Off"?
... the Panama Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)):
"Despite widespread popular belief, ..
HTTP://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/mccain_lies_his_ass_off.php
This is the true story
of four candidates
picked to stay in the race
and have their lives taped.
Find out what happens
when candidates stop being polite
and start getting real.
************
We've been finding out, all right. As the five still-standing GOP candidates made their way through the diners, retirement homes, and gas stations of the Sunshine State in the crucial days before Tuesday's primary vote, the view of the campaign trail that was edited, produced, and packaged for viewers often seemed less "real" and more "reality." A marathon showing, in other words, of the docudrama that was The Real World: Florida. (The schticks! The cliques! The slights! The fights!) And MTV's central casting could hardly have picked a more Drama-Inducing mix. Having voted the Frat Guy (Duncan Hunter), the Slacker (Fred Thompson), and the Activist (Tom Tancredo) out of the house, we were left with the Player (Giuliani), the Joker (Huckabee), the Nerd (sorry, Ron Paul) and, of course, the made-for-insta-rivalry pairing of the Rebel (McCain) and the Suit (Romney).
The McCain/Romney combat boots-versus-corporate suits enmity has been building for a while, but it reached a new level this week, with the GOP house's chief rivals taking dig after dig at each other as they traipsed around Florida. And "to have their lives taped," and all the media were there to record it.
But this is Sweeps Week for the news networks; minor insults won't do. Ratings depend on Drama. And the clash between McMentum and Mittmentum came to a head last night as the intensity and, yes, reality of the candidates' rivalry was put on display during RW:F's reunion special, The Real World: Simi Valley. In the Air Force One Pavilion of the Reagan Library, against the meant-to-be-inspiring-but-ultimately-cartoonish backdrop of the plane that had lofted Reagan only partially as high as his wannabe-successors did last night, the four still-keeping-it-real candidates met to relive old times, rehash old tensions, and argue about who among them was most ready to become Reagan Redux. The two main rivals from RW:F, in particular, came ready for a fight Romney, with a head full of facts and figures; McCain, as Anderson Cooper noted, "with a head full of steam." And Drama, to be sure, ensued.
According to the LA Times,
The tension between McCain and Romney, the two leading Republican candidates, was heightened because the two sat next to each other, uncomfortable and occasionally glaring, as the insults burst forth. Former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, the two other participants, were often left out.
Much of today's Simi Valley coverage has focused either on that "tension" or on McCain's debate "victory" a bittersweet one earned, the consensus suggests, mainly by the fact that Romney fell short of trajectory-reversal. ("Boy, was that not the momentum-changer Mitt Romney needed," wrote The New Republic's Michael Crowley, expressing the majority opinion.) But the tone of the coverage has been remarkable, given that, as they brushed over the debate's significance ("I saw a mostly predictable news-free affair," Crowley wrote), many also acknowledged that the accusations McCain leveled against Romney last night that the governor was in favor of setting a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq stretched/distorted/ignored the truth. This from The New York Times:
In a caustic encounter that saw the candidates often talking over each other, Mr. Romney called the accusation "offensive" and "absolutely wrong." Mr. McCain stood by his assertion, which has been labeled misleading by many news organizations, and continued to accuse Mr. Romney of wavering in his support of the troop build-up in Iraq. He noted that Mr. Romney had been the first in the campaign to use negative attacks, through millions of dollars of advertisements.
And here's Andrew Sullivan:
This struck me as McCain's worst performance of the campaign. He seemed understandably exhausted. He kept pushing some untruths about Romney's position on Iraq. He seemed vague and unfocused on the economy. He was also more aggressive in swiping at Romney who was more civil and more engaging than I have seen so far.
And Huffington Post's RJ Eskow:
McCain misrepresented Romney's record, which triggered a "did so! did not!" argument that resulted in both of them becoming visibly smaller as we watched. They were paramecium-sized and still shrinking when it ended. Meanwhile Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee sat at the sidelines like squirrels at a tennis match.
And The Fix's Chris Cillizza:
The most heated rhetoric of the debate came in a discussion over the correct course of action in Iraq. McCain insisted that Romney had supported a timetable for withdrawal, while Romney bitterly disagreed and accused McCain of "the sort of dirty tricks Ronald Reagan would have found reprehensible." That was the hottest flash point of the night, but it was far from the only time the two men butted heads.
In other words, the Real World coverage of the show last night seems to have drowned out the real-world coverage: summaries were much more interested in the debate's "stop being polite" angle than its "start getting real" counterpart. Which amounted, it seems, to a free pass on accountability for the GOP's current "straight-talking," "straight-shooting" front-runner. And last night's debate was an instance in which all that was required of reporters to check McCain's claims was simple stenography. At the height of the fighting, when McCain and Romney were arguing over each other about what Romney had actually said, Anderson Cooper interrupted with the quote in question, from an interview Romney gave last year to ABC News:
There's no question that the president and [Iraqi] Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone.
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Carl Olson
Fri 1 Feb 2008 07:12 PM
There are two (2) classes of citizens in America, not one (1):
http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/twoclass.htm
Yes, there is a common law principle of "jus sanguinis" (law of blood)
but one must expressly CHOOSE the citizenship of one's parents
INSTEAD OF the citizenship conferred by "jus soli" (law of the soil)
According to jus soli, he was not born a State Citizen
because Panama was not a State of the Union at that time,
and never was.
We presently have no evidence that McCain ever made
any notorious declaration(s) that he elected to be a
State Citizen instead. Confer at "Right of Election"
in this context.
On the contrary, if he is a registered voter in Arizona,
his voter registration application contains a statement,
certified under penalty of perjury, that he is a federal citizen.
That application is conclusive evidence,
admissible in a court of law.
Finally, there is no constitutional authority for the
proposition that all federal citizens are also
Citizens of the State in which they "reside",
because the so-called 14th Amendment
was never properly ratified.
Federal citizens were not even contemplated
when Article III, and hence Article II, was first
being drafted. See Pannill v. Roanoke:
http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/twoclass.htm#pannill
Accordingly, the record before us calls for
the conclusion that John McCain is a
federal citizen but not a State Citizen.
As such, he is not eligible for the office
of President of the United States of America.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a)
http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm
Criminal Investigator and Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13
http://www.supremelaw.org/reading.list.htm
http://www.supremelaw.org/index.htm (Home Page)
http://www.supremelaw.org/support.policy.htm (Support Policy)
http://www.supremelaw.org/guidelines.htm (Client Guidelines)
http://www.supremelaw.org/support.guidelines.htm (Policy + Guidelines)
All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
On Feb 7, 2008 5:15 AM, LOMA WHARTON .. wrote:
Were his parents people born here in this country they are one of the people and so is he, however he could ask for citizenship in Panama and have dual....................
Loma Wharton
www.lomaforclerk.com
www.theliberators11.org
Chairperson The Liberators 11 for the Public Interest
Oregon Lawmen Coordinator
NO DIRECT UN-APPORTIONED TAX CONFIRMED BY THE SUPREME COURT - Chas. C. Steward Mach. Co. v David, 301 U.S. 548, 581-582(1937)
The status of the U. S. Navy Hospital in the Panama Canal Zone is described
by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)):
"Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military installations abroad and
U. S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States
within the meaning of the 14th Amendment.
"A child born on the premises of such a facility is
not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and
does not acquire U. S. citizenship by reason of birth."
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=117101;title=AP FN
State Department Watch
UPDATE: McCain was born in Panama and not the US
Wed Feb 6, 2008 18:02
72.201.67.36
McCain was born in Panama and not the US
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:02:40 -0800
Is John McCain eligible to be elected President ?
Friday, February 01, 2008 - State Department Watch
Senator John McCain is apparently not eligible to be elected President of the United States under the clear provisions of the Constitution.
McCain is not a natural born citizen inasmuch as he was born in the U.S. Navy Hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, which was never part of the United States.
The Constitution states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible for the Office of President." The 14th Amendment did not alter this provision.
The status of the U. S. Navy Hospital in the Panama
Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)): "Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military installations abroad and U. S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U. S. citizenship by reason of birth."
This issue should be addressed as soon as possible.
State Department Watch
Carl Olson, Chairman
P. O. Box 6102
Woodland Hills, California 91365
----------------
Zakuta: John McCain: Is He A Natural born Citizen or eligible to ...
Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)):
"Despite widespread popular belief, U. S. military ...
HTTP://zakuta.blogspot.com/2008/02/john-mccain-is-he-natural-born-citizen.html
CJR: "McCain Lies His Ass Off"?
... the Panama Canal Zone is described by the U. S. Department of State in its Foreign Affairs Manual (7FAM1116.1-4(c)):
"Despite widespread popular belief, ..
HTTP://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/mccain_lies_his_ass_off.php
This is the true story
of four candidates
picked to stay in the race
and have their lives taped.
Find out what happens
when candidates stop being polite
and start getting real.
************
We've been finding out, all right. As the five still-standing GOP candidates made their way through the diners, retirement homes, and gas stations of the Sunshine State in the crucial days before Tuesday's primary vote, the view of the campaign trail that was edited, produced, and packaged for viewers often seemed less "real" and more "reality." A marathon showing, in other words, of the docudrama that was The Real World: Florida. (The schticks! The cliques! The slights! The fights!) And MTV's central casting could hardly have picked a more Drama-Inducing mix. Having voted the Frat Guy (Duncan Hunter), the Slacker (Fred Thompson), and the Activist (Tom Tancredo) out of the house, we were left with the Player (Giuliani), the Joker (Huckabee), the Nerd (sorry, Ron Paul) and, of course, the made-for-insta-rivalry pairing of the Rebel (McCain) and the Suit (Romney).
The McCain/Romney combat boots-versus-corporate suits enmity has been building for a while, but it reached a new level this week, with the GOP house's chief rivals taking dig after dig at each other as they traipsed around Florida. And "to have their lives taped," and all the media were there to record it.
But this is Sweeps Week for the news networks; minor insults won't do. Ratings depend on Drama. And the clash between McMentum and Mittmentum came to a head last night as the intensity and, yes, reality of the candidates' rivalry was put on display during RW:F's reunion special, The Real World: Simi Valley. In the Air Force One Pavilion of the Reagan Library, against the meant-to-be-inspiring-but-ultimately-cartoonish backdrop of the plane that had lofted Reagan only partially as high as his wannabe-successors did last night, the four still-keeping-it-real candidates met to relive old times, rehash old tensions, and argue about who among them was most ready to become Reagan Redux. The two main rivals from RW:F, in particular, came ready for a fight Romney, with a head full of facts and figures; McCain, as Anderson Cooper noted, "with a head full of steam." And Drama, to be sure, ensued.
According to the LA Times,
The tension between McCain and Romney, the two leading Republican candidates, was heightened because the two sat next to each other, uncomfortable and occasionally glaring, as the insults burst forth. Former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, the two other participants, were often left out.
Much of today's Simi Valley coverage has focused either on that "tension" or on McCain's debate "victory" a bittersweet one earned, the consensus suggests, mainly by the fact that Romney fell short of trajectory-reversal. ("Boy, was that not the momentum-changer Mitt Romney needed," wrote The New Republic's Michael Crowley, expressing the majority opinion.) But the tone of the coverage has been remarkable, given that, as they brushed over the debate's significance ("I saw a mostly predictable news-free affair," Crowley wrote), many also acknowledged that the accusations McCain leveled against Romney last night that the governor was in favor of setting a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq stretched/distorted/ignored the truth. This from The New York Times:
In a caustic encounter that saw the candidates often talking over each other, Mr. Romney called the accusation "offensive" and "absolutely wrong." Mr. McCain stood by his assertion, which has been labeled misleading by many news organizations, and continued to accuse Mr. Romney of wavering in his support of the troop build-up in Iraq. He noted that Mr. Romney had been the first in the campaign to use negative attacks, through millions of dollars of advertisements.
And here's Andrew Sullivan:
This struck me as McCain's worst performance of the campaign. He seemed understandably exhausted. He kept pushing some untruths about Romney's position on Iraq. He seemed vague and unfocused on the economy. He was also more aggressive in swiping at Romney who was more civil and more engaging than I have seen so far.
And Huffington Post's RJ Eskow:
McCain misrepresented Romney's record, which triggered a "did so! did not!" argument that resulted in both of them becoming visibly smaller as we watched. They were paramecium-sized and still shrinking when it ended. Meanwhile Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee sat at the sidelines like squirrels at a tennis match.
And The Fix's Chris Cillizza:
The most heated rhetoric of the debate came in a discussion over the correct course of action in Iraq. McCain insisted that Romney had supported a timetable for withdrawal, while Romney bitterly disagreed and accused McCain of "the sort of dirty tricks Ronald Reagan would have found reprehensible." That was the hottest flash point of the night, but it was far from the only time the two men butted heads.
In other words, the Real World coverage of the show last night seems to have drowned out the real-world coverage: summaries were much more interested in the debate's "stop being polite" angle than its "start getting real" counterpart. Which amounted, it seems, to a free pass on accountability for the GOP's current "straight-talking," "straight-shooting" front-runner. And last night's debate was an instance in which all that was required of reporters to check McCain's claims was simple stenography. At the height of the fighting, when McCain and Romney were arguing over each other about what Romney had actually said, Anderson Cooper interrupted with the quote in question, from an interview Romney gave last year to ABC News:
There's no question that the president and [Iraqi] Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone.
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Carl Olson
Fri 1 Feb 2008 07:12 PM