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rdenner
02-08-2008, 12:09 PM
Thought this might help.. Hope it's appropriate..

I just read your interview on the Alex Jones show. As a libertarian/conservative myself, I feel EXACTLY the same way as you about John McCain. TIME IS OF THE ESSENSE and you and your group must consider strategic alliances to stop the John McCain coronation.

He is less than 600 delegates away from securing the nomination. I would suggest that you come out in support of Dr Ron Paul. I know nothing of your politics or who you are supporting, but please hear me out.

The Ron Paul grassroots people are EVERYWHERE. We have a fundraising and grassroots organization that are 2nd to none. AND WE ALL HATE John McCain with a passion.

If you were to wing something together, AND I MEAN FAST, to get your group (last I heard Rolling Thunder was about 500K strong) and our group and the hundreds of other groups that want nothing to do with John McCain, and point us in a concerted direction to effectively derail McCain.

Our group consists of at least 110K Meetup members represented in EVERY state of the Union and even overseas. Just about every single city bigger than 10k has at least a small Ron Paul meetup group in it. We are tech savvy and are used to slapping together last minute things. Since the MSM has ignored us we are masters at bypassing them and getting the message out to the people(ever see RON PAUL REVOLUTION banners on overpasses?? That's us)..

Anyways, just thought I'd float that out there and see what you think.. I in NO WAY represent Ron Paul or his staff, I am just ONE concerned citizen and I currently only speak for myself.

Thanks...

rdenner
02-08-2008, 12:14 PM
bump?? Anyone?

Kotin
02-08-2008, 12:17 PM
bump

slantedview
02-08-2008, 12:18 PM
i think this is great. the problem is, though he may hate mccain, do we know for sure that he doesn't hate paul (for whatever reason) as well?

anyways, so you sent this to him?

Cinderella
02-08-2008, 12:19 PM
i think u should add about how Ron paul gets the most money from people in the military.....combined he gets the most money out of all of the republicans....that will spark theyre interest....dont u think??

Cinderella
02-08-2008, 12:20 PM
another thing...hate is quite a strong word...i dont think u should say that we hate mccain...i mean we do hate him but i think if u put that we agree with them about him being a liar and we dont need someone like him in office etc etc,....but i think hate should be taken out

Deborah K
02-08-2008, 12:20 PM
If he was on the Alex Jones show, it's entirely possible that Alex has spoken to him already about exposing a scandal. Wouldn't that be loverly? McCain has to drop out because of a scandal? It's been done many times before. This is how we win.

fuzzybekool
02-08-2008, 12:23 PM
bump

Cinderella
02-08-2008, 12:25 PM
bump..........im so siked about this

Cinderella
02-08-2008, 12:28 PM
bump

txporchpisser
02-08-2008, 12:31 PM
Good idea and sure couldn't hurt

FreestarMediaDotCom
02-08-2008, 12:38 PM
And there is a movie that exposes how bad John McCain is when it comes to POW issues. You'd think McCain would want to help find and return POWs but he wants the whole POW issue to go away. Why? He doesn't want voters to know that he made many anti-American propaganda broadcasts while a POW. That's why he had his records sealed. Get this movie out and McCain is finished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0

http://www.missingpresumeddead.com

dblee
02-08-2008, 12:52 PM
McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Kerry??

sheesh how many democrats has this guy cuddled up to?

RonPaulFTFW
02-08-2008, 01:01 PM
good letter.

JeffersonAndLiberty
02-08-2008, 01:07 PM
Alex Jones asked him about Ron Paul, and while he agreed that he would be a good option, he said this is NOT about supporting a candidate, this is about exposing McCain. IMO, his voiced support of another candidate while he is attacking McCain only takes away from the credibility of his argument and I think he understands this. It comes across much stronger if it doesn't look like he has a horse in this race, only that he is vehemently against McCain.

Sey.Naci
02-08-2008, 01:08 PM
Alex Jones asked him about Ron Paul, and while he agreed that he would be a good option, he said this is NOT about supporting a candidate, this is about exposing McCain. IMO, his voiced support of another candidate while he is attacking McCain only takes away from the credibility of his argument and I think he understands this. It comes across much stronger if it doesn't look like he has a horse in this race, only that he is vehemently against McCain.Yes.

RonPaulFTFW
02-08-2008, 01:19 PM
that doesnt mean we can't work together.

Deborah K
02-08-2008, 01:20 PM
Alex Jones asked him about Ron Paul, and while he agreed that he would be a good option, he said this is NOT about supporting a candidate, this is about exposing McCain. IMO, his voiced support of another candidate while he is attacking McCain only takes away from the credibility of his argument and I think he understands this. It comes across much stronger if it doesn't look like he has a horse in this race, only that he is vehemently against McCain.


Agreed. We need that movie so we can start distributing it.

JenaS62
02-08-2008, 01:31 PM
another thing...hate is quite a strong word...i dont think u should say that we hate mccain...i mean we do hate him but i think if u put that we agree with them about him being a liar and we dont need someone like him in office etc etc,....but i think hate should be taken out

I agree with the word 'hate'. Maybe distrust would work better.

RPinSEAZ
02-08-2008, 01:32 PM
gopteaparty@gmail.com

http://www.gopteaparty.com

humanic
02-08-2008, 01:38 PM
Some of the allegations made by SBVFT in 2004 were untrue and intentionally deceptive. All you have to do is tell the truth about McCain and people will see him for the scumbag that he is. Because SBVFT (now "Swift Vets and POWs For Truth") have already proven themselves in the eyes of many as more concerned with politics than truth, many people will be skeptical of their allegations, even if they are completely true. We need a better messenger.

Some of the other anti-McCain vets, such as Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain , seem quite upfront and truthful. I think they'd make a much better messenger. Even they seem to repudiate the Swift Boat Vets distortions. There is a link on the right-hand side of their page "Submerging the truth about Swift Boat Vets."

Our revolution is a revolution of truth, and when the truth is on your side, there's no need for liars.

jnpg
02-08-2008, 01:52 PM
Some of the allegations made by SBVFT in 2004 were untrue and intentionally deceptive. All you have to do is tell the truth about McCain and people will see him for the scumbag that he is. Because SBVFT (now "Swift Vets and POWs For Truth") have already proven themselves in the eyes of many as more concerned with politics than truth, many people will be skeptical of their allegations, even if they are completely true. We need a better messenger.

Some of the other anti-McCain vets, such as Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain , seem quite upfront and truthful. I think they'd make a much better messenger. Even they seem to repudiate the Swift Boat Vets distortions. There is a link on the right-hand side of their page "Submerging the truth about Swift Boat Vets."

Our revolution is a revolution of truth, and when the truth is on your side, there's no need for liars.


Can you please elaborate and site sources as to the unreliability of the SBVFT?

humanic
02-08-2008, 02:08 PM
Some of the allegations made by SBVFT in 2004 were untrue and intentionally deceptive. All you have to do is tell the truth about McCain and people will see him for the scumbag that he is. Because SBVFT (now "Swift Vets and POWs For Truth") have already proven themselves in the eyes of many as more concerned with politics than truth, many people will be skeptical of their allegations, even if they are completely true. We need a better messenger.

Some of the other anti-McCain vets, such as Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain , seem quite upfront and truthful. I think they'd make a much better messenger. Even they seem to repudiate the Swift Boat Vets distortions. There is a link on the right-hand side of their page "Submerging the truth about Swift Boat Vets."

Our revolution is a revolution of truth, and when the truth is on your side, there's no need for liars.

Can you please elaborate and site sources as to the unreliability of the SBVFT?

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_082304_news_french_protest.a701071e.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?ex=1250913600&en=9b6f27de16c97265&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=120304&page=1

http://mediamatters.org/items/200408250002

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts64.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/print?id=166434

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/washington/28kerry.html?ex=1306468800&en=7158a80120f0ee5a&ei=5089

http://mediamatters.org/items/200408050007

http://www.time.com/time/election2004/article/0,18471,689369,00.html
(See "Swift Boat Attack Ads" section)

...etc, etc. There's a lot.

jnpg
02-08-2008, 02:20 PM
Thanks Humanic!

humanic
02-08-2008, 02:22 PM
Thanks Humanic!

Very welcome! :o

nayjevin
02-08-2008, 02:51 PM
nice

Cinderella
02-11-2008, 11:34 AM
bump....did u fix the letter at all?

haaaylee
02-11-2008, 11:46 AM
someone get PBS to air the McCain POW movie.

scandinaviany3
02-11-2008, 12:06 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=117948&highlight=scandinaviany3



Ted is already on board has tons of ron paul supporters but legally their organization is not allowed to promote any candidate. They can certainly tear one down like john mccain. But he can not come out and promote them do to his legal constraints. Nor should he the damage control would be monstrous.

But the effect he and their effort can have is monstrous

beachmaster
02-11-2008, 12:10 PM
I agree with the word 'hate'. Maybe distrust would work better.

I hate John McCain. May a pox be on him!