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SteveMartin
02-08-2008, 11:15 AM
We must spread the word about the real John McCain...that's it. We win, if the people find out about him in the next couple of weeks.

Let's go!!!!

Post your ideas here.

"Songbird" McCain must be exposed!

austinchick
02-08-2008, 11:16 AM
sheeple wouldn't care...they care more about American idol

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:16 AM
agreed.

If McCain is speaking somewhere....we must be there also.
I really think we had an impact on Rudy's Campaign.

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:18 AM
John McCain will be here at 5:30pm today:

Seattle Fundraising Reception
What: Seattle Fundraising Reception
When: February 8, 2008 5:30pm
Where: Westin Hotel, 5th Avenue Ballroom
John McCain returns to Washington for a fundraising reception on Friday, February 8th at 5:30pm.

Requested contribution is $2,300

To RSVP, please email amybarnes@fundraisingpartnersnw.com
or call (206) 352-3922

And here at 6:15pm:


Washington Meet and Greet, Seattle
What: Washington Meet and Greet, Seattle
When: February 8, 2008 6:15pm
Where: Grand Ballroom 3 (4th Floor), The Westin Hotel
1900 5th Avenue
Seattle, WA98101

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:21 AM
Any covert ops want to join "Team McCain"?
https://www.johnmccain.com/Secure/Signup.aspx?smode=tms

Thank you for your interest in joining Team McCain. Just fill out and submit the form below to join Team McCain. Benefits of joining Team McCain include:
The ability to create a McCainSpace personal website
The ability to customize the appearance of this website (coming soon)
Additional information about events and appearances sent to Team Members only

sgrooms
02-08-2008, 11:22 AM
bump for the stratefy

dsentell
02-08-2008, 11:24 AM
sheeple wouldn't care...they care more about American idol

May be right. . . .

BUT maybe one sheeple would see a sign saying "McCAIN WANTS US TO PAY FOR MEXICAN HEALTHCARE" and suddenly wake up!!! If not, we might try hitting him/her on the head with the sign . . . . :D :D

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:28 AM
Refer to McCain as just Songbird. Most people will not understand except in context. But it will cause them to try to find out why you are calling him that.
..

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:31 AM
Maybe we can work with or at least gather inspiration from these established anti-McCain groups...
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.usvetdsp.com/

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:32 AM
Statefy? Is that like strategery? :D

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:36 AM
I think that would be to our advantage to point out that The Veterans Disarmament Act -- which has already passed the House -- would place any veteran who has ever been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) on the federal gun ban list.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/dec07/mccain_suicide_ptsd.htm

If we could prove McCain was diagnosed with PTSD, then we could use the fact that our government doesn't think McCain is mentally stable enough to own a gun....how can we trust him to be President (i.e. with the big red button)?

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:40 AM
printable PDF:
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word[1].pdf
FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:41 AM
printable PDF:
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/captive%20amestywe.pdf
Capitan Amnesty

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 11:45 AM
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_democrats.pdf

McCain’s “Collaborations” with Democrats

John McCain's conservative supporters are voting for him based on his phony, media created, bionic-Rambo- POW-hero image while ignoring his real life “pro-leftist” record.

Whenever questioned about his collaborations with democrats, McCain’s knee-jerk reply is to characterize the inquiries as attacks. His handlers then move quickly to counter with a TV ad reminding the public that candidate McCain was captured and brutalized by Communist Vietnam - a country which today Sen. McCain
bends over to help.

McCain’s domestic legislative record is a conservative disaster. Consider these:

McCain-Kennedy — the most far-reaching pro-amnesty program in American history.

McCain-Feingold — the most brazen frontal assault on political speech since Buckley v. Valeo.

McCain-Lieberman — the most onerous and intrusive attack on American industry — through
reporting, regulating, and taxing authority of greenhouse gases — in American history.

McCain-Kennedy-Edwards — the biggest boon to the trial bar since the tobacco settlement, under
the rubric of a patients’ bill of rights.

McCain-Reimportation of Drugs — a significant blow to pharmaceutical research and
development, not to mention consumer safety.

McCain’s stated opposition to the Bush 2001 and 2003 tax cuts was largely based on socialist, class-warfare rhetoric — tax cuts for the rich, not for the middle class. The public record is full of these statements. Today, he recalls only his insistence on accompanying spending cuts.

McCain also led the Gang of 14, which prevented the Republican leadership in the Senate from mounting a rule change that would have ended the systematic use (actual and threatened) of the filibuster to prevent majority approval of judicial nominees.

McCain-ACLU — the unprecedented granting of due-process rights to unlawful enemy combatants (terrorists).

McCain has repeatedly called for the immediate closing of Guantanamo Bay and the introduction of al-Qaeda terrorists into our own prisons — despite the legal rights they would immediately gain and the burdens of managing such a dangerous population.

McCain, who claims he was brutally tortured by the communist Vietnamese and owes his public life to the tag "former POW, ironically emerged, as early as 1986, as Hanoi's leading advocate for normalized relations with the United States. He has worked hard for the Hanoi communist to discredit evidence proving POWs were left behind after the 1973 prisoner release. McCain has single-handily diluted or destroyed all proposed legislation that would pressure Hanoi into telling the
truth.

hillertexas
02-08-2008, 12:49 PM
bump

Madsci30
02-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Mccain has a short fuse....maybe we could get him to blow up in anger. Many possibilities there. Just a thought.

acptulsa
02-08-2008, 12:59 PM
Mccain has a short fuse....maybe we could get him to blow up in anger. Many possibilities there. Just a thought.

Already saw a thread on that. Seems there's a plan to chant "songbird" at an upcoming Virginia rally. Just don't wear your Ron Paul gear or they won't let you in.

Oh, and in some states (like the largest, Texas) coming up, a word to the wise about McCain's record on gun control would be well advised...

Agent CSL
02-08-2008, 01:05 PM
John McCain will be here at 5:30pm today:


And here at 6:15pm:

Damn if only I had a car. I'll send this to the Seattle Meetup.

seapilot
02-08-2008, 01:17 PM
Mccain has a short fuse....maybe we could get him to blow up in anger. Many possibilities there. Just a thought.

Oh yeah and it might be captured for all to see, a dean scream moment. Rudy was smart enough to run away, McCain will go postal on the crowd. Keep the pressure on!

Sandra
02-08-2008, 01:19 PM
McCain's short fuse will be his undoing.

SteveMartin
02-08-2008, 10:06 PM
Yep...I like the ideas here! Keep 'em coming.

LET'S MAKE Ol' SONGBIRD, SING!

dblee
02-08-2008, 10:19 PM
bump. this is it folks. it's really that simple.

SteveMartin
02-08-2008, 10:24 PM
Indeed, it is. We need to see the red face, and the bulging veins on national TV, and it's all over for McFake.

SteveMartin
02-09-2008, 08:16 AM
Bump

SteveMartin
02-09-2008, 08:44 AM
Typo...sorry. I think it's fixed now...

constituent
02-09-2008, 08:59 AM
sorry, but the songbird strategy is flawed.

the media has been buffering for this all week,
warning of "efforts to 'swift-boat' john mccain"

be at the rally, but chanting songbird is not a good strategy.

ShowMeLiberty
02-09-2008, 09:04 AM
sorry, but the songbird strategy is flawed.

the media has been buffering for this all week,
warning of "efforts to 'swift-boat' john mccain"

be at the rally, but chanting songbird is not a good strategy.

Fine - so people, go to your nearest China-Mart or sporting goods store and get a bird call whistle.

Print and take the flyers linked earlier in this thread and tweeet-tweet-tweet-tweeeeet.

:D

billjarrett
02-09-2008, 09:11 AM
sorry, but the songbird strategy is flawed.

the media has been buffering for this all week,
warning of "efforts to 'swift-boat' john mccain"

be at the rally, but chanting songbird is not a good strategy.

I agree. But I've said in other threads I think theres two routes we can take on it. Mainly because we've seen what happens everytime we try to deal with the MSM directly.

1. We need to start talking to the veteransagainstjohnmccain, and make them our PAC. They have the message, we have the troops and funds. Lets find out what they need to make it happen.

2. Even if we did get the MSM to talk about this, they would give us a 30 second blurb like they usually do. If we get this out, we need it to be talked about at the dinner table like Britney in the mental hospital. I think the only way we could do this is something big and drastic. The only idea I had was to get our representatives attention somehow and make sure they know they aren't getting reelected until they open an investigation on this. Unless someone has a better idea.

I think we need to use this not to make McCain get less delegates, but I think if done powerfully enough it could make him bow out (many have disagreed with me already around here, but the 2-3AM group was pretty negative about alot of stuff). I just don't know if we have the manpower around here we had before.

constituent
02-09-2008, 09:13 AM
I agree. But I've said in other threads I think theres two routes we can take on it. Mainly because we've seen what happens everytime we try to deal with the MSM directly.

1. We need to start talking to the veteransagainstjohnmccain, and make them our PAC. They have the message, we have the troops and funds. Lets find out what they need to make it happen.

2. Even if we did get the MSM to talk about this, they would give us a 30 second blurb like they usually do. If we get this out, we need it to be talked about at the dinner table like Britney in the mental hospital. I think the only way we could do this is something big and drastic. The only idea I had was to get our representatives attention somehow and make sure they know they aren't getting reelected until they open an investigation on this. Unless someone has a better idea.

I think we need to use this not to make McCain get less delegates, but I think if done powerfully enough it could make him bow out (many have disagreed with me already around here, but the 2-3AM group was pretty negative about alot of stuff). I just don't know if we have the manpower around here we had before.

honestly, and this will sound crazy... i know.

but i'm wondering if at this point, the best strategy for getting
that much attention wouldn't be a full-page, color paid advert
story on the front page of the major tabloid papers across the country.

give the parents something to ponder (sorta) as they stand in the checkout line.

SteveMartin
02-09-2008, 09:19 AM
OR...just a well done TV ad for all the remaining primary/caucus states, pointing out that a vote for McCain is a vote for TREASON (yes, use the T word) and the end of the Republican Party.

billjarrett
02-09-2008, 09:23 AM
honestly, and this will sound crazy... i know.

but i'm wondering if at this point, the best strategy for getting
that much attention wouldn't be a full-page, color paid advert
story on the front page of the major tabloid papers across the country.

give the parents something to ponder (sorta) as they stand in the checkout line.

I don't know. I guess we really need someone who understands the black arts of politics.

McCain is pretty damn close to grabbing the nomination. I like to try to keep positive and think we can stop him, but in reality the math is not in our favor. I think our best bet is not just getting an issue out in front of voters, but forcing a "scandal" on him.

None of the average joe voters go to these rallys, and I think all the songbird calling stuff would do is make us look crazy. We could bring it up the MSM, but I'm sure they have all our e-mail addresses in the spam blockers by now. Digg doesn't seem to have much effect anymore, and didn't really have an enormous effect before except for a select internet crowd.

We just need to find someway to take this and make it big. I can't think of any other way than a "We want this investigated NOW" representative bomb, but if all Reps are like mine that won't matter either (I sent a letter about illegal immigration last year, got a form letter in response about gay marriage.. go figure).

We don't need crazy sign waving or whistles or 30 second swiftboat ads. We need something to come off as "scandal" so it will be dinner conversation that the GOP cannot ignore.

SteveMartin
02-09-2008, 09:45 AM
This guy's middle name is Scandal. All we have to do is find ways to get it into popular culture.

BE CREATIVE!