View Full Version : Ron Paul losing New Jersey poll to RUDY
Chester Copperpot
08-09-2007, 06:08 PM
C'mon Ron Paulers.. we Jerseyians need your help on this one
poll to lower right side..
http://www.politicsnj.com/who-wins-new-jersey-republican-presidential-primary
krott5333
08-09-2007, 06:08 PM
voted
ctb619
08-09-2007, 06:11 PM
voted
JasonM
08-09-2007, 06:16 PM
voted
Shink
08-09-2007, 06:17 PM
Voted, posted to facebook.
LibertyEagle
08-09-2007, 06:19 PM
Voted
Hurricane Bruiser
08-09-2007, 06:30 PM
voted
None of these online polls mean anthing any more. We're "spamming" them too much. You should only vote in polls for you community/state. That way the polls can actually mean something and we can get a proper gague on how our hero is doing. That way, if his support is low, we can know where we need to focus our efforts.
And don't go all crazy on me for posting this. I want him to win the primary AND the actual election more than I've ever wanted ANYTHING else in the political world.
tomahawk
08-09-2007, 06:38 PM
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johnrocks
08-09-2007, 06:50 PM
None of these online polls mean anthing any more. We're "spamming" them too much. You should only vote in polls for you community/state. That way the polls can actually mean something and we can get a proper gague on how our hero is doing. That way, if his support is low, we can know where we need to focus our efforts.
And don't go all crazy on me for posting this. I want him to win the primary AND the actual election more than I've ever wanted ANYTHING else in the political world.
It's funny how I was thinking the same exact thing 2 seconds before reading your post.:eek:
his online polls are making news as a positive point. They used to accuse us of being a few spammers. now what used to be a coincidence has become a pattern. Keep voting on these online polls. Granted don't spam them and definitely don't use bots (although i'm certain noone is) just make a vote that counts. It helps spread the word. Winning one online poll means nothing. Winning every single one means something is happening.
Electric Church
08-09-2007, 07:08 PM
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Thom1776
08-09-2007, 07:18 PM
Well, at least bogged it down good. It's taking FOREVER to load.
lapi7
08-09-2007, 07:23 PM
Voted
ronpaulhawaii
08-09-2007, 07:24 PM
voted.
Good points on both the pro and con side of voting in these polls.
I am amazed at the support Rudy has here in the east. The media protrayed him as a hero of 911 and the sheeple remember. Of course, the truth is that he is a Authoritarian snake in the grass. People point out how he "cleaned up NYC" as a prosecuter. Someone else has pointed out that a big reason for falling crime rates during his watch can be attributed to the maturing of the baby boomers. I thought that was an interesting point...
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None of these online polls mean anthing any more. We're "spamming" them too much. You should only vote in polls for you community/state. That way the polls can actually mean something and we can get a proper gague on how our hero is doing. That way, if his support is low, we can know where we need to focus our efforts.
And don't go all crazy on me for posting this. I want him to win the primary AND the actual election more than I've ever wanted ANYTHING else in the political world.
wILL, I will actually diagree with you on this one.
if somebody in NJ decided to vote Rudy and sees that there is this HUGE Ron Paul bar, (s)he will most likely wonder: who is Ron Paul? - the most important question of 2007. And I bet after they wonder who is this Ron Paul guy losing but coming a very close second none the less, about 25% of them will research, thus BAM
another NJ Ron Pauler.
anewvoice
08-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Also keep in mind, if all of a sudden Ron Paul loses an online poll, the news is certain to latch onto that as a slip in his support online or the end of his rise.
Never let up, keep the pressure on them!
paulitics
08-09-2007, 07:37 PM
People in NJ vote for him because he is the closest thing to a socialist, err democrat. Unfortunately Giuliani will win states like NJ, California , Florida unless liberty prevails over tyrrany. Thompson won't win these states.
mavtek
08-09-2007, 07:48 PM
I'm not worried about finding where we need to work, we need to work everywhere!
If you want good information though as to where we are strong and where we need work use www.google.com/trends or check out where Dr. Paul's funds are coming from.
People in NJ vote for him because he is the closest thing to a socialist, err democrat. Unfortunately Giuliani will win states like NJ, California , Florida unless liberty prevails over tyrrany. Thompson won't win these states.
cALIFORNIA, with it's well known pro-Dem anti-war stands? I doubt it. I think if Ron Paul can take over CA, with his anti-Iraq, anti-War on Drugs and anti-IRS, he's basically set, even if he doesn't do so well in the rest of the states.
wILL, I will actually diagree with you on this one.
if somebody in NJ decided to vote Rudy and sees that there is this HUGE Ron Paul bar, (s)he will most likely wonder: who is Ron Paul? - the most important question of 2007. And I bet after they wonder who is this Ron Paul guy losing but coming a very close second none the less, about 25% of them will research, thus BAM
another NJ Ron Pauler.
OK. You might be right. I've spoken to people that have never heard of him (as recently as yesterday). So, seing the huge support in the online polls might actually do just what you said - get them to say "who is this guy"...
lol - To tell the truth, seconds after my first posting, I actually couldn't resist going to the poll and voting even though I'm in Miami - lol...
Paulitician
08-09-2007, 08:04 PM
His people will hijack and make this poll his once they cath it..ha
Yup. I can't believe there's so many Giuliani supporters... err should I say fellowers there though. Maybe it's a good thing we do this for Ron Paul. Hopefully this intrigues people enough that they start looking him up; or not, and in turn they start hating him and his supporters ;) .
Matt Collins
08-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Voted
disinter
08-09-2007, 09:03 PM
Voted.
V4Vendetta
08-09-2007, 09:24 PM
voted
Voted!!
1 Vote from the lead now!
CurtisLow
08-09-2007, 09:37 PM
Voted
Sam Brownback
1% (7 votes)
Rudy Giuliani
40% (347 votes)
Mike Huckabee
1% (8 votes)
Duncan Hunter
1% (6 votes)
John McCain
2% (19 votes)
Ron Paul
41% (355 votes)
Mitt Romney
7% (57 votes)
Tom Tancredo
1% (9 votes)
Fred Thompson
6% (53 votes)
Tommy Thompson
1% (9 votes)
Total votes: 870
OK. You might be right. I've spoken to people that have never heard of him (as recently as yesterday). So, seing the huge support in the online polls might actually do just what you said - get them to say "who is this guy"...
lol - To tell the truth, seconds after my first posting, I actually couldn't resist going to the poll and voting even though I'm in Miami - lol...
One more thing, Will.
Did you see how all the networks are messing with RP? Do you see how they purposely not list him, or just go: Rudy, Romney, McKain, Hunter, "others"? Did you see the crop of the last Republican debate back on 08/05/07? So no, we need to "spam" as many votes as we can. Let's put away all that chivalry bullshit aside because you and I know full well the media ain't got any.
mackler
08-09-2007, 09:53 PM
His people will hijack and make this poll his once they cath it..ha
Won't be the first time Rudy has been helpless to do anything about a hijacking.
OURPLAN
08-09-2007, 09:54 PM
Voted:)
cALIFORNIA, with it's well known pro-Dem anti-war stands? I doubt it. I think if Ron Paul can take over CA, with his anti-Iraq, anti-War on Drugs and anti-IRS, he's basically set, even if he doesn't do so well in the rest of the states
I'm from southern california, trust me when I say Ron Paul has the support of the prop 215er's. Once he gets the states rights message out, especially in california, he's a lock. His anti Iraq war stance, and anti establishment, makes it even better.
Looks like Ron Paul has taken the lead in this poll.
qwerty
08-10-2007, 12:04 AM
Voted!
tsetsefly
08-10-2007, 12:09 AM
None of these online polls mean anthing any more. We're "spamming" them too much. You should only vote in polls for you community/state. That way the polls can actually mean something and we can get a proper gague on how our hero is doing. That way, if his support is low, we can know where we need to focus our efforts.
And don't go all crazy on me for posting this. I want him to win the primary AND the actual election more than I've ever wanted ANYTHING else in the political world.
exactly, people should vote only on sites you frequent or your states/city polls, or ina national debate then we can all vote, lol but spamming polls doesnt help much,imo...
libertarianguy
08-10-2007, 12:23 AM
mph
blazin_it_alwyz
08-10-2007, 12:24 AM
None of these online polls mean anthing any more. We're "spamming" them too much. You should only vote in polls for you community/state. That way the polls can actually mean something and we can get a proper gague on how our hero is doing. That way, if his support is low, we can know where we need to focus our efforts.
And don't go all crazy on me for posting this. I want him to win the primary AND the actual election more than I've ever wanted ANYTHING else in the political world.
I totally understand where your coming from, but at the same time, unless they set up the poll so where only people from New Jersey could vote (but that could be spoofed anyway), there is bound to be people that vote for Giuliani in other cities also.
I'm not saying spam the polls, or get bots, we don't even need to! You can clearly see we're winning the polls now! I'm saying, unless they add some server side checks (programming talk) to discretely block whoever isn't really from New Jersey,(which would be tricky, they would have to check the ip address of anyone who came through, which can easily be spoofed, which is why I say do it discreetly) I would say the poll is free game. News stations can't go far with the "Ron Paul spammers" line when any other supporters candidate can just as easily be blamed for voting multiple times, or as easily be blamed for the amount of votes Giuliani has now.
I call free game on this one.
Voted.
I'm from southern california, trust me when I say Ron Paul has the support of the prop 215er's. Once he gets the states rights message out, especially in california, he's a lock. His anti Iraq war stance, and anti establishment, makes it even better.
Looks like Ron Paul has taken the lead in this poll.
That's a tough call. Yes RP is strong on the immigration issue, but most California Repub's are big time neocons (please see our Governor) and many are pro-choice (I know Paul's position is irrelevant here but most people don't get that).
Rudy is pretty popular out here among the very small minority that are still registered republican.
But yeah I think Paul has a chance if he can get a lot of independents and angry dems to re-register and vote his way.
specsaregood
08-10-2007, 08:25 AM
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robatsu
08-10-2007, 08:37 AM
I'm all for people participating in all online polls in an ethical manner - e.g., no spamming, no bots, etc. They do put these online, so they are apparently asking for all comers.
Beyond that, the one thing that has been keeping Ron Paul from being completely dismissed is the dedicated online support. Just imagine if people quit doing these online polls and he started getting 2% in some debate poll. Don't you think that would be used against him by MSM? By keeping up the pressure online, that neutralizes one weapon against the guy.
That is not to say that this is the only thing people should be doing - that part of the campaign is doing well, we've pretty much demonstrated that we can win any online poll that isn't rigged. This only takes a couple of minutes a day for most people. The other real world campaign activities are much more important now.
The danger is that people think, well, I voted for RP in this or that poll, so I don't have to do anything else, I've done my part. That is the danger of focus on online polls is that it can lull some supporters into complacency.
ARealConservative
08-10-2007, 08:43 AM
exactly, people should vote only on sites you frequent or your states/city polls, or ina national debate then we can all vote, lol but spamming polls doesnt help much,imo...
Anybody that was around from the beginning knows that our online poll spamming was how we first started getting attention.
I urge everybody to continue doing so - even when new guys sign up telling us what we should or should not be doing.
gtjwkq
08-10-2007, 08:50 AM
Voted.
disinter
08-10-2007, 08:57 AM
None of these online polls mean anthing any more. We're "spamming" them too much. You should only vote in polls for you community/state.
Nonsense. You can't tell me there aren't a bunch of Fruity Rudy supporters on some forum like this sharing where the polls are.
They started calling legit votes on online polls "spam" to prevent suckers like you from voting in them.
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