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Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 02:54 AM
I have been awash with apathy all over again for the last week or so, especially after Super Tuesday. Thursday, I was ready to give up, and just apathetically hope that Dr. Paul would run Independant/3rd Party, and until then take a break because I figured the gig was up and Dr. Paul had no chance of winning the primary and it was over. That is stupid, and let me tell you why. I was up late Thursday contimplating, reading, and looking at different rules and upcoming states. I finally get it.

First, there is no reason to have Dr. Paul drop out of the primaries at this juncture. As long as he is in the primaries, he is campaigning and getting his message out anyways. Second, when/if he is out of the primaries, then he can decide whether to run indy/3rd party, and in the meantime, this is still a good opportunity to canvas and recruit Dr. Paul supporters because even if the primary is lost, they will be there for a posssible indy/3rd party run.

Forth, now that Mitt is out, the whole thing is up in the air for the primaries, and who knows? Maybe Dr. Paul can win more votes with Romney out. Think about it. Pretty much every state that Paul has done well in, Romney has been our toughest competitor, like in NV, MT, AK, CO, MN, ND, WY, etc. Fifth, we can now send Ron Paul supporters to be delegates in place of those who don't show up after their candidate dropped out of the primaries. Sixth, it's now down to 3 and that means more people are going to have to start looking more at Dr. Paul. Will the MSM continue to ignore Dr. Paul now that it's down to just 3? They will continue to look silly if they do.

With the states coming up, we will obtain more delegates now. The primaries coming up are a bit spread out and it will be quite some time before McCain has a chance at locking up enough delegates to win, if he's even able to. So, don't become apathetic like I did and think it's over. Get out there and recruit more Paul supporters! And become a delegate and look for opportunities to fill in as a delegate even after your initial voting takes/took place. Stay updated to the end and don't change your registration just yet!

Go Ron Paul!!! :)

EDIT:

Read these threads:

How very easy it is to be a delegate at your state convention (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115804)

This isn't just another thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115840)

.

RobJinFlorida
02-08-2008, 03:06 AM
National Campaign Underway!! Too much to win and too many delegates to turn over to our side.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115814

thuja
02-08-2008, 03:13 AM
I have been awash with apathy all over again for the last week or so, especially after Super Tuesday. Thursday, I was ready to give up, and just apathetically hope that Dr. Paul would run Independant/3rd Party, and until then take a break because I figured the gig was up and Dr. Paul had no chance of winning the primary and it was over. That is stupid, and let me tell you why. I was up late Thursday contimplating, reading, and looking at different rules and upcoming states. I finally get it.

First, there is no reason to have Dr. Paul drop out of the primaries at this juncture. As long as he is in the primaries, he is campaigning and getting his message out anyways. Second, when/if he is out of the primaries, then he can decide whether to run indy/3rd party, and in the meantime, this is still a good opportunity to canvas and recruit Dr. Paul supporters because even if the primary is lost, they will be there for a posssible indy/3rd party run.

Forth, now that Mitt is out, the whole thing is up in the air for the primaries, and who knows? Maybe Dr. Paul can win more votes with Romney out. Think about it. Pretty much every state that Paul has done well in, Romney has been our toughest competitor, like in NV, MT, AK, CO, MN, ND, WY, etc. Fifth, we can now send Ron Paul supporters to be delegates in place of those who don't show up after their candidate dropped out of the primaries. Sixth, it's now down to 3 and that means more people are going to have to start looking more at Dr. Paul. Will the MSM continue to ignore Dr. Paul now that it's down to just 3? They will continue to look silly if they do.

With the states coming up, we will obtain more delegates now. The primaries coming up are a bit spread out and it will be quite some time before McCain has a chance at locking up enough delegates to win, if he's even able to. So, don't become apathetic like I did and think it's over. Get out there and recruit more Paul supporters! And become a delegate and look for opportunities to fill in as a delegate even after your initial voting takes/took place. Stay updated to the end and don't change your registration just yet!

Go Ron Paul!!! :)

this is what a little rest will do!

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 03:23 AM
this is what a little rest will do!


Yup, and I needed the rest, LOL. I was stressed for sure. I feel alot better now. :cool:

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 04:21 AM
Read this thread - How very easy it is to be a delegate at your state convention (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115804)

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 07:07 AM
Another must read - This isn't just another thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115840)

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 07:32 AM
bump

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 08:55 AM
bump

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 09:39 AM
:) :) :)

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 10:31 AM
another bump

jrich4rpaul
02-08-2008, 10:33 AM
Recommended watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DN-fhY96p0

Highstreet
02-08-2008, 10:46 AM
bump

fj45lvr
02-08-2008, 10:54 AM
Paul is now solely in "education mode" any thoughts that he can "win" are crazy as he can't....even if he ran as a 3rd party sore-loser the vote would end up with the socialists being intact in their voting bloc and paul dividing the votes with McLame for the rest.

time for Paul and his close inner circle to layout what they see as the best course moving forward for REVOLUTION.

the revolution does not have to be limited to the fact that we will not win the presidency!!!!!!

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:16 AM
Paul is now solely in "education mode" any thoughts that he can "win" are crazy as he can't....even if he ran as a 3rd party sore-loser the vote would end up with the socialists being intact in their voting bloc and paul dividing the votes with McLame for the rest.

time for Paul and his close inner circle to layout what they see as the best course moving forward for REVOLUTION.

the revolution does not have to be limited to the fact that we will not win the presidency!!!!!!

So then why are you here? You are a defeatist. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I reject your notion that Ron Paul is solely in "education mode" and I don't think you've looked at things thoroughly.

Honestly, did you read my post thoroughly? I started the OP by stating that I thought things were through until I looked at things thoroughly, and here you respond by saying that I'm crazy for thinking he actually does have a shot at winning. Whatever. :rolleyes:

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:26 AM
bump

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:52 AM
bump again.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 12:03 PM
one more bump

WilliamC
02-08-2008, 12:05 PM
Ron Paul cured my political apathy.

This Monday night I'll be attending my first ever County Republican meeting.

Our primaries are in March, County delegate selection begins in April.

Oh hell yes!

fj45lvr
02-08-2008, 01:58 PM
So then why are you here? You are a defeatist. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I reject your notion that Ron Paul is solely in "education mode" and I don't think you've looked at things thoroughly. :rolleyes:

I am not a defeatist I am only stating the fact that he got beat. It takes 1191 delegates to win the nomination. Get over it already and move forward to what is NEXT.

another like-minded patriot running in 2012? some other plan for real patriots?? we can make our own destiny even though we are a small minority of the populous....we cannot however win an election as such without 1191 delegates.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 03:16 PM
bippity boppity bump

JMann
02-08-2008, 03:17 PM
Do not go towards the light!!!

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 03:32 PM
Do not go towards the light!!!

Care to share what you mean? Are you saying we should just quit like fj45lvr is saying? Or are you saying that we should stay in the dark, in a tunnel? Or is this your round about way of bringing up the movie Poltergeist?

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 03:52 PM
bump

leglock
02-08-2008, 03:53 PM
The light at the end of the tunnel usually refers to a train that's coming your way.

Just FYI.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 04:02 PM
The light at the end of the tunnel usually refers to a train that's coming your way.

Just FYI.

Wrong. It actually comes from being lost or deep in a cave/tunnel, and that by seeing the light, you see the way out of the cave/tunnel. Sort of like a "light of hope."

You can find it used in context here -

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/light+at+the+end+of+the+tunnel

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 04:18 PM
bump

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 06:08 PM
bump

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 06:36 PM
fe fi fo fum

this is where I type the word BUMP!!!

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 07:02 PM
I bumped.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 07:34 PM
I'm running out of ways to say bump. Or not.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 08:10 PM
bump

tekkierich
02-08-2008, 08:22 PM
stop bumping... it is obnoxious. I propose a $5 donation fee to Ron Paul to buy your bump.

HenryKnoxFineBooks
02-08-2008, 08:22 PM
Bump. And you fight till the fat lady sings, never quit before then.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 09:20 PM
Appearantly, I have received warnings from the forum moderaters for bumping this thread too many times, so I won't bump it any more. :(

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 09:30 PM
Thanks to everyone who took in what I had to say in this thread. I'm sorry if I annoyed readers by bumping this thread, but I was just trying to reach those who are apethetic out there because of Super Tuesday. If you are not feeling apathetic then I did not mean to direct this thread at you and you have the simple option of not reading this thread. But appearantly I have upset someone and the moderators issued me a warning. This truely saddens me. I'm wondering right now why I post at all here.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 09:32 PM
And once again, I feel apathetic. Thanks.

ike
02-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Don't forget to keep our man funded!

http://ronpaul2008.com/donate

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 10:09 PM
Don't forget to keep our man funded!

http://ronpaul2008.com/donate

Thank you for your input.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 10:11 PM
Bump. And you fight till the fat lady sings, never quit before then.

Thank you. I will keep fighting! :cool:

Broadlighter
02-08-2008, 10:13 PM
All I can add is, if you are going to canvass don't say anything the campaign would say (ie... 3rd Party run!).

I think it's even more important to maintain the integrity of the campaign at this juncture.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:12 PM
stop bumping... it is obnoxious. I propose a $5 donation fee to Ron Paul to buy your bump.

Did I ever tell you how much love there is in this world? :p

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:32 PM
Well, I guess people just don't care, so why should I? Nobody even addressed my OP and the response I received for posting this thread was a warning from the moderator.

I really feel at home here.

I guess this really is a useless thread.

Vox Populi
02-08-2008, 11:46 PM
Bump the forum rules!

fj45lvr
02-09-2008, 12:28 AM
Care to share what you mean? Are you saying we should just quit like fj45lvr is saying? Or are you saying that we should stay in the dark, in a tunnel? Or is this your round about way of bringing up the movie Poltergeist?

dude who said "quit"....all I am saying is that the energy and money needs to move from seeking the nomination to OTHER THINGS:

re-electing Paul in Congress,

educating people in the constitutional conservatism and liberty (why Paul is still in this)

putting up stakes in the GOP party OR maybe another new party(though Paul is staying in the GOP)

planning the NEXT ROUND and the candidate to attempt the "run"

Helping decide the party "planks"

There are more and more ......all of these things are apart of the "revolution" but that is much different than people believing the impossible will happen in this nomination. 1191.

Vox Populi
02-09-2008, 12:30 AM
Fuck off troll!

parocks
02-09-2008, 12:46 AM
Well, um, I won't be changing my registration.

Seriously, there really isn't anything wrong with working hard for Ron Paul at this point even if the chances of winning are nearly zero.

Good can definitely still come out of continued hard work. But it's not going to really help RP become President in 2008.

Become a delegate, yes. Become involved with Republican Party politics, yes. Make the Republican Party a little bit more freedom-loving, yes.


I have been awash with apathy all over again for the last week or so, especially after Super Tuesday. Thursday, I was ready to give up, and just apathetically hope that Dr. Paul would run Independant/3rd Party, and until then take a break because I figured the gig was up and Dr. Paul had no chance of winning the primary and it was over. That is stupid, and let me tell you why. I was up late Thursday contimplating, reading, and looking at different rules and upcoming states. I finally get it.

First, there is no reason to have Dr. Paul drop out of the primaries at this juncture. As long as he is in the primaries, he is campaigning and getting his message out anyways. Second, when/if he is out of the primaries, then he can decide whether to run indy/3rd party, and in the meantime, this is still a good opportunity to canvas and recruit Dr. Paul supporters because even if the primary is lost, they will be there for a posssible indy/3rd party run.

Forth, now that Mitt is out, the whole thing is up in the air for the primaries, and who knows? Maybe Dr. Paul can win more votes with Romney out. Think about it. Pretty much every state that Paul has done well in, Romney has been our toughest competitor, like in NV, MT, AK, CO, MN, ND, WY, etc. Fifth, we can now send Ron Paul supporters to be delegates in place of those who don't show up after their candidate dropped out of the primaries. Sixth, it's now down to 3 and that means more people are going to have to start looking more at Dr. Paul. Will the MSM continue to ignore Dr. Paul now that it's down to just 3? They will continue to look silly if they do.

With the states coming up, we will obtain more delegates now. The primaries coming up are a bit spread out and it will be quite some time before McCain has a chance at locking up enough delegates to win, if he's even able to. So, don't become apathetic like I did and think it's over. Get out there and recruit more Paul supporters! And become a delegate and look for opportunities to fill in as a delegate even after your initial voting takes/took place. Stay updated to the end and don't change your registration just yet!

Go Ron Paul!!! :)

EDIT:

Read these threads:

How very easy it is to be a delegate at your state convention (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115804)

This isn't just another thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=115840)

.

parocks
02-09-2008, 12:52 AM
So then why are you here? You are a defeatist. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I reject your notion that Ron Paul is solely in "education mode" and I don't think you've looked at things thoroughly.

Honestly, did you read my post thoroughly? I started the OP by stating that I thought things were through until I looked at things thoroughly, and here you respond by saying that I'm crazy for thinking he actually does have a shot at winning. Whatever. :rolleyes:

I'd call fj45lvr a "reader"

Maybe you missed the Message from Ron email that was sent out a few hours ago.

Here's the key.

"With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get."

And the 2 key words there are "nearly zero".

Ron himself has said that his chances of winning are "nearly zero"

qh4dotcom
02-09-2008, 12:55 AM
He can't wait until he's out of the primaries and then decide to run third party. See below to learn why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gYF_K5p38E