Tell me why McCain won't be the nominee.

[RonPaulFever]

No speculating, no wishful thinking....give me hard evidence as to why his 700+ delegates and momentum will simply disappear.

[SRRP77]

Don't have one but I can gaurantee he won't be president...

Because people like me and my ultra conservative father who are as Anti-Obama as anyone could be, would vote for Obama over McCain.

[jasonjasonjason1]

aa

[Cleaner44]

Breaking news! Mike Huckabee has just shot and killed John McCain! Huckabee is currently being held in the state prison and Ron Paul has become the de facto republican nominee!

That's how I see it goin down.

I had the same dream!

[ronpaulfollower999]

Breaking news! Mike Huckabee has just shot and killed John McCain! Huckabee is currently being held in the state prison and Ron Paul has become the de facto republican nominee!

That's how I see it goin down.

LOL

[dirka]

Breaking news! Mike Huckabee has just shot and killed John McCain! Huckabee is currently being held in the state prison and Ron Paul has become the de facto republican nominee!

That's how I see it goin down.


Haha, yea right, Mitt would call a press conference so fast to say he is back in the race it would make your head spin.

[nodope0695]

Might be the nominee, but he'll get his ass handed to him in the general, either by Hillary or Obama. You think "W" was bad, McCain is twice as bad. He is a true relflection of just how morally, and politically bankrupt the GOP really is.

[Carole]

How about people are calling Rush Limbaugh to tell him they will vote democratic rather than for McCain. :D

[Alabama Supporter]

Good point. It seems like we are pissing in the wind at this point. Not sure if there is a plan to go forward from here. The MSM will not acknowledge RP is alive. Our media team sucks and the MSM sucks as well.

[Jobarra]

Breaking news! Mike Huckabee has just shot and killed John McCain! Huckabee is currently being held in the state prison and Ron Paul has become the de facto republican nominee!

That's how I see it goin down.
Nah, Huck would let his son do the dirty work since he's more experienced. Then he could pardon him just like he almost had to do before ;)

[colecrowe]

it's obvious that Ron Paul will win 90% of the remaining states. And then there will clearly be a brokered convention and Ron Paul will win.

What is insane and stupid to think is that Ron Paul has ANY chance in hell of succeeding as an iNDEPENDENT candidate. People that believe that are trolls and are giving up and have never and will never really support Paul, and they are stupid and offer no evidence.

Whereas, just look at the abundance of evidence that he can win the GOP Nomination...

And besides, sticking with and "changing" the GOP is way more important that getting Ron Paul in the Whitehouse. And also, having Ron Paul in the House of Representatives is way more important than mounting an independent bid for president--because the independent bid isn't certain.

You say you want proof that Ron Paul will win the Republican Nomination, well fine, you idiot troll satanic person that says you will support Ron Paul as an independent and give thousands more, get signatures, and canvass until your feet fall off and phone explodes (you obvious non-supporter of Ron Paul). Well, here's your evidence...

Just go back and find all the posts that say:

"Why RP will win in IOWA"
"Iowa picks corn, New Hampshire picks presidents"
"Iowa picks corn, New Hampshire picks 100 years in Iraq
"New Hampshire: 92% stupid"
"Stupid old people in New Hampsire!!!!!!"
"Why Ron Paul will WIN in Nevada"
"Romney Bussed out the Mormons in Nevada"
"Why Ron Paul will win in Montana"
"Every Mormon in Montana came out!!"
"Don't give up hope! RON PAUL WILL GET 1ST IN NORTH DAKOTA"
"Arabs will give Ron Paul 2nd place or better in Michigan"
"Stupid socialist union members in Michigan"
"Ron Paul will win Alaska"
"Stupid Alaskans on Welfare"

and if you still doubt the cause after all that evidence, just look what's up now:

"Ron Paul to get 1st place in Washington...Guaranteed...For Reals this time!!!!!"


www.ronpaulwhitehouse.com (http://www.ronpaulwhitehouse.com/) <--pledge here.


Face it, the GOP has rejected us. There is no plausible path to the nomination after today, none. The next stage in our ideological struggle to save this country is to undertake an Independent run for the White House. I realize there are a lot of naysayers on this issue. Some people think it's insanely hard to do and that it cannot be done. I submit the following points to argue otherwise. If you agree, please help me spread word about the site and make sure to signup today. :D


Ballot Signatures:
We need to gather about 800,000 signatures nationwide to get on the ballots. We have a wonderful precinct captain system to help accomplish this, and I've read reports that to hire collectors to do the job would cost about 3 million dollars. It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that we cannot collect these signatures.

Sore Loser Laws:
Only four states in the country present possible issues with Sore Loser laws: Texas, Ohio, South Dakota, and Mississippi. There may be legal grounds to dispute these laws. More information here (http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/01/12/sore-loser-laws-dont-generally-apply-to-presidential-candidates/) and here (http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/07/20/do-sore-loser-laws-apply-to-presidential-candidates/)

Votes:
Polling done by Rasmussen a week ago showed that Ron Paul would garner between 7-11% of the vote in four-way matchups that included Bloomberg, Paul, and the GOP/Dem nominees. More info here. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/will_michael_bloomberg_ron_paul_run_third_party_ca mpaigns_in_2008)

Debates:
Perot got in them before, no reason we cant pull it off as well. If the polling above is true, then the media might actually let us in. Double digit support is the key, and it looks like we might be able to manage that.

A New Era:
We've learned some important lessons and made some mistakes, but the campaign activities have improved at the official level, and the grassroots got their much needed wakeup call that our attention starved methods are not very effective. We still have powerful weapons at our disposal, namely the 24 hour news cycle, new media, high name recognition, record high voter dissatisfaction, etc... Most importantly, we have the winning message and the dedication to spread it. Educating people takes time, we shouldn't give up yet.

[ronpaulyourmom]

No speculating, no wishful thinking....give me hard evidence as to why his 700+ delegates and momentum will simply disappear.

I can't, there isn't any.

[seapilot]

Breaking news! Mike Huckabee has just shot and killed John McCain! Huckabee is currently being held in the state prison and Ron Paul has become the de facto republican nominee!

.

No that is complete B.S. it was Huckabees son not Huckabee.

GOP nominates McCain is suicidal for the conservative republican party and they know it!!!

[jasonuher]

Breaking news! Mike Huckabee has just shot and killed John McCain! Huckabee is currently being held in the state prison and Ron Paul has become the de facto republican nominee!

That's how I see it goin down.

I thought of this earlier! Though in my scenario Huck shot McCain and Romney after they announced that the were running (away) together...

man, I gotta lay off the telenovelas.

[m72mc]

No speculating, no wishful thinking....give me hard evidence as to why his 700+ delegates and momentum will simply disappear.

How about, come 6 months from now almost no one will accept him!

would 100 % delegates and 5 % support satisfy Americans ?

[mahopaul]

"it's obvious that Ron Paul will win 90% of the remaining states. And then there will clearly be a brokered convention and Ron Paul will win.

What is insane and stupid to think is that Ron Paul has ANY chance in hell of succeeding as an iNDEPENDENT candidate. People that believe that are trolls and are giving up and have never and will never really support Paul, and they are stupid and offer no evidence."

Right on!! Because Romney dropped out, we win by default in NV, LA, ME, MN, ND, CO, UT, AK, and MT. We have, like, almost as many delegates as McCain. Plus a LOT of McCain delegates are RP supporters in disguise. With all the MSM coverage and support from the GOP, we are the CLEAR frontrunner.

[colecrowe]

"it's obvious that Ron Paul will win 90% of the remaining states. And then there will clearly be a brokered convention and Ron Paul will win.

What is insane and stupid to think is that Ron Paul has ANY chance in hell of succeeding as an iNDEPENDENT candidate. People that believe that are trolls and are giving up and have never and will never really support Paul, and they are stupid and offer no evidence."

Right on!! Because Romney dropped out, we win by default in NV, LA, ME, MN, ND, CO, UT, AK, and MT. We have, like, almost as many delegates as McCain. Plus a LOT of McCain delegates are RP supporters in disguise. With all the MSM coverage and support from the GOP, we are the CLEAR frontrunner.

Ron Paul! Fuck Yeah!

[dkim68]

There will be one last debate where Ron Paul ticks McCain off on national television and McCain's anger issues will be exposed to the world on live television. McCain will say things that will make people question his sanity. It will be 1,000 times worse than the Howard Dean scream. After that, Ron Paul will be the only one left standing.

[yongrel]

Because many popular "conservative" pundits and powerful establishment folks hate McCain.

[mahopaul]

"There will be one last debate where Ron Paul ticks McCain off on national television"

Yes! With all the uproar from us, McCain will cave in and agree to a national debate! Ron is going to smoke him!

[Nic4Truth]

My Grandmother, who loved Romney, said a vote for McCain is the same as Obama and Hillary. Maybe well get the Romney votes if all this goes to a brokered convention (although, i realize w/ the gazillion delegates McCain has well most likely be stuck w/ Obama or Hillary).

A wise old guy at a recent convention for RP Said " you just watch, its going to come down to McCain and Paul. you just watch".

makes you have a little hope. a tiny bit.

[Jobarra]

"There will be one last debate where Ron Paul ticks McCain off on national television"

Yes! With all the uproar from us, McCain will cave in and agree to a national debate! Ron is going to smoke him!
Since Hillary and Obama are going to be at the same debate, McCain concedes if he doesn't show up to debate them. Unfortunately, Paul will either be uninvited or will be given so little time as to have the same effect.

[sharedvoice]

Because McCain wont get this military vote! He claims the military adores him and supports his candidacy which couldn't be further from the truth! Besides the guy is a total scam with far too many skeletons in the closet. ;)

[hvac ak47]

Its Ron Paul or bust!

Stop argueing over 3rd party and what not!

Ron will do what he thinks is best!

We just have to stay behind him and fight for him!

Never give up!

[colecrowe]

Its Ron Paul or bust!

Stop argueing over 3rd party and what not!

Ron will do what he thinks is best!

We just have to stay behind him and fight for him!

Never give up!

We're not arguing you morons. We are planning and showing/pledging our support. As well as discussing everything.

STOP DISCUSSING!!! oH NOOO!

Jeez. just pledge to support him just in case (see sig)

[manny]

There is no hard evidence.

George Washington had no hard evidence that an agricultural third wolrd country could defeat the biggest empire in the world.

What odds must we overcome? Get conservatives to vote for Ron instead of a socialist Huckabee and a liberal-loving, amnesty-granting McCain.

Will it be easy? No. Is it possible? Yes. Of course it is.

We must focus now. Ron must become the way for every conservative who is unhappy with McCain to express that feeling.

Ron has an incredible, conservative record on:

Taxes
Limited government
States rights
Abortion
Gun rights
The rule of law
Illegal immigration

Push these hard to average republicans.

We're against the wall but we can still stand up and fight. We need to take some states and get aggressive on McCain. Refer plenty of times to "McCain-Kennedy" and the absolute heart-attack liberals would have if Ron got into the White House.

I think we'll struggle to get the 1000 delegates to win outright. Our goal is to get it to a brokered convention when we should be able to appeal to anti-McCain delegates, as well as having had more time to put Ron's case, and build a coalition to get Ron the nomination.

Never give up.

[LibertyEagle]

There is no hard evidence.

George Washington had no hard evidence that an agricultural third wolrd country could defeat the biggest empire in the world.

What odds must we overcome? Get conservatives to vote for Ron instead of a socialist Huckabee and a liberal-loving, amnesty-granting McCain.

Will it be easy? No. Is it possible? Yes. Of course it is.

We must focus now. Ron must become the way for every conservative who is unhappy with McCain to express that feeling.

Ron has an incredible, conservative record on:

Taxes
Limited government
States rights
Abortion
Gun rights
The rule of law
Illegal immigration

Push these hard to average republicans.

We're against the wall but we can still stand up and fight. We need to take some states and get aggressive on McCain. Refer plenty of times to "McCain-Kennedy" and the absolute heart-attack liberals would have if Ron got into the White House.

I think we'll struggle to get the 1000 delegates to win outright. Our goal is to get it to a brokered convention when we should be able to appeal to anti-McCain delegates, as well as having had more time to put Ron's case, and build a coalition to get Ron the nomination.

Never give up.

Thank You. :)

[Bold As Love]

because he's a "big-government" tool of the Estalishment.

wait, so was Bush, Dole, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Taft, Roosevelt, McKinley...I'm sure I missed a few.:D

[Bold As Love]

Because McCain wont get this military vote! He claims the military adores him and supports his candidacy which couldn't be further from the truth! Besides the guy is a total scam with far too many skeletons in the closet. ;)

Right on.

For a guy who run's on the war, how does he explain that Ron Paul has raised more money from active duty military members than all other candidates of both parties combined?

[Revolution9]

McCain is a Manchurian candidate. He left his boys in Viet nam. He blocked investigations to bring home POW's. He ran to and hugged his torturer, a Viet nam Colonel, after being reunited..heh..with him,. A sure sign he has been made. The reason he remains in high stakes power spots is he is easily blackmailed by those who hold the keys to his abandonment of Viet Nam POW's. The troops do not support him. The guys who sell weapons support him. The man is a blinkered fool and mountebank of the first order. He knows nothing about governance except cocktail partes and soundbytes and even the soundbytes are delivered like he is a zombie. He a a bloated and baragrugous gasbag of bad intentions and every word from his gaping fumarole of a yap is aimed at retrieving the lost glories he could have had as a warmonger in his families worst ttraditions has he not been trussed up in a bamboo cage jabbering everything he knew to get the fuck out of their and save his sorry ass. fuck everyone else. he owed them nothing. he still does.

HTH
Randy

[Molly1]

Because many popular "conservative" pundits and powerful establishment folks hate McCain.

"The pair of third party candidates attract from 13% to 17% of Republicans in each match-up. They earn only 5% to 10% of the Democratic vote. "



"In a McCain-Obama poll, the Democrat leads by five. That grows to seven points with the third party options—Obama 40% McCain 33% Paul 11% Bloomberg 5%. "

[hvac ak47]

We're not arguing you morons. We are planning and showing/pledging our support. As well as discussing everything.

STOP DISCUSSING!!! oH NOOO!

Jeez. just pledge to support him just in case (see sig)

I think I worded that wrong. I agree we need to discuss all options and start with plans 100%. I was talking about the post saying to stop all 3rd party talk.

Im backing Ron no matter what he does! Im in this for the long haul no doubt!

[rmholla]

I see McCain blowing a fuse over something and it being caught on tape. It could derail his campaign in an instant.

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[Enzo]

It doesn't matter if he does become the nominee... There's so much disgust and hatred for McCain in the GOP....


McCain being the nominee ensures only one thing:

Obama would win the national election.

[fuzzybekool]

Don't have one but I can gaurantee he won't be president...

Because people like me and my ultra conservative father who are as Anti-Obama as anyone could be, would vote for Obama over McCain.


+1776. McCain can not be elected without the "real" Conservatives of the Republican Party. Plain and simple. McCain's wins this past Tuesday were abysmal considering he won the Republican votes in blue Democratic states like Illinois. That is why the GOP hacks forced Romney to quit. It would not look good if McCain kept losing red Republican states to Romney, Huckabee, and Dr. Paul.

[No1ButPaul08]

McCain will be the nominee unless he is stopped.

[cindy25]

Larry Flynt could spill the beans