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foofighter20x
08-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Could it all be a subtle attempt at hype so that in the off chance we don't place 2nd that the media can pounce?

Sean
08-09-2007, 11:41 AM
I think that second through eighth will be the same thing according to the media. He will get positive attention if he gets first. Negative if he is last. Ignored any other place.

slantedview
08-09-2007, 11:44 AM
Could it all be a subtle attempt at hype so that in the off chance we don't place 2nd that the media can pounce?
Yes, I think that any over-expectations are not good (just as on Wall Street).


I think that second through eighth will be the same thing according to the media. He will get positive attention if he gets first. Negative if he is last. Ignored any other place.
I think this is true to some extent, but also that whatever attention he does get will be positive or negative based on how he does relative to expecations.

Ninja Homer
08-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Not with all the stuff they've been saying about him previously. 2% on polls, will never win the election, not a republican, etc. With the standards they've set for Ron Paul in MSM, anything above last place will be perceived as a win.

ThePieSwindler
08-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Uh who is predicting him to finish 2nd? A few posters on here? If the media is going to use our board as a source from which to draw info to attack us, they have become so unimaginably pathetic.

foofighter20x
08-09-2007, 12:04 PM
The blogosphere is... But what do they know, right? :D

kenc9
08-09-2007, 12:06 PM
Uh who is predicting him to finish 2nd? A few posters on here? If the media is going to use our board as a source from which to draw info to attack us, they have become so unimaginably pathetic.

http://donklephant.com/2007/07/19/prediction-ron-paul-to-place-2nd-in-iowa-straw-poll/

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/07/townhall-blog-p.html

JosephTheLibertarian
08-09-2007, 12:08 PM
I'm predicting a win. 10-15 points over Romney. What am I basing this on? Absolutely nothing ;) I call it a gut feeling. hey! If it's good enough for Michael Cherftoff, it's good enough for me!

ne1buthilary
08-09-2007, 12:08 PM
links no worky

kenc9
08-09-2007, 12:10 PM
Fixed

LarryWhite
08-09-2007, 12:18 PM
I believe the one predicting 2nd place was the same one predicting the $5 million first quarter, overzealous. We'll be fine as long as we're not in last place. The campaign has 500 tickets, and the grassroots had over 600, so that's 1100. Pat Bucannon finished 5th of 9 candidates with 1700 votes in the 1999 poll, and attendance is expected to be lower this time than last. We may not be 1st or 2nd, but finishing in the middle is respectable for as little time and $$ as Dr Paul has spent here.

I think the important # is how many votes over the 1100 he gets regardless of place.

kenc9
08-09-2007, 12:24 PM
I'm predicting a win. 10-15 points over Romney. What am I basing this on? Absolutely nothing ;) I call it a gut feeling. hey! If it's good enough for Michael Cherftoff, it's good enough for me!

After watching RPs new video on how he can win with a 10% poll and the under real poll counting he has now you may be very close.

-ken

smhbbag
08-09-2007, 12:28 PM
What video, kenc9? I haven't seen it.

JosephTheLibertarian
08-09-2007, 12:32 PM
I believe the one predicting 2nd place was the same one predicting the $5 million first quarter, overzealous. We'll be fine as long as we're not in last place. The campaign has 500 tickets, and the grassroots had over 600, so that's 1100. Pat Bucannon finished 5th of 9 candidates with 1700 votes in the 1999 poll, and attendance is expected to be lower this time than last. We may not be 1st or 2nd, but finishing in the middle is respectable for as little time and $$ as Dr Paul has spent here.

I think the important # is how many votes over the 1100 he gets regardless of place.

Wouldn't Dr. Paul have more money when you count the merchandise? We only count the contributions, but maybe he has made more that wasn't counted in merchandise, right?

kenc9
08-09-2007, 12:32 PM
What video, kenc9? I haven't seen it.


http://dailypaul.com/

Bradley in DC
08-09-2007, 03:42 PM
I believe the one predicting 2nd place was the same one predicting the $5 million first quarter, overzealous.

Patrick Ruffini is no supporter of Dr. Paul, no.

FreedomLover
08-09-2007, 03:55 PM
Wouldn't Dr. Paul have more money when you count the merchandise? We only count the contributions, but maybe he has made more that wasn't counted in merchandise, right?

If we include merchandise like obama did, then that would up the total to about 100 gazillion dollars. :p