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wgadget
02-06-2008, 09:11 PM
To the average Joe Republican, that is.

Jeremy
02-06-2008, 09:17 PM
I doubt the average joe "Republican" even knows what a conservative is

TonySutton
02-06-2008, 09:19 PM
To anyone that looks at their policies it is clearly Ron Paul. Unfortunately many people will listen to McCain say over and over that he is a conservative. They will believe him without ever looking at his record... it is sad.

America needs to wake up!

nullvalu
02-06-2008, 09:21 PM
McCain of course! Ron Paul is an anti-war surrender monkey liberal! </sarcasm>

wgadget
02-06-2008, 09:22 PM
We need a billboard in every city that says CHECK THEIR RECORD BEFORE YOU VOTE.

So many people think they can learn about a candidate at their website...duh.

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 09:22 PM
They would believe that McCain is.

The term conservative no longer deals with monetary policy of the gov't. It describes a return to 40-50's style morals and ideology.

I have had numerous Republicans tell me that Paul is a liberal. I guess disagreeing with the gov't isn't "conservative"

roflwofl89
02-06-2008, 09:23 PM
McCain, because of his position on the war. Avg republican seems to link national security and staying in Iraq because Bush says so (must be loyal to the party leader!).

Does not matter the reason, if you are for withdrawal from Iraq they equate that to a liberal position and thus weak on national security. At least this is what I have found to be true.

To me, Conservative really doesn't apply to most Republicans anymore. You can't be conservative and ignore a multi-trillion dollar deficit, however a Republican just needs to carry out the party agenda.

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 09:23 PM
We need a billboard in every city that says CHECK THEIR RECORD BEFORE YOU VOTE.

So many people think they can learn about a candidate at their website...duh.

You need to hand feed the info to people. A billboard won't help.

Just prove it to them, in simple and easy to remember bites of information about other potential canidates.

chewbacca
02-06-2008, 09:23 PM
Ron Paul will never win until there is a MAJOR MAJOR economic crisis. Even then I doubt this country would go for free markets and instead I bet it would embrace socialism.

nullvalu
02-06-2008, 09:25 PM
They would believe that McCain is.

The term conservative no longer deals with monetary policy of the gov't. It describes a return to 40-50's style morals and ideology.

I have had numerous Republicans tell me that Paul is a liberal. I guess disagreeing with the gov't isn't "conservative"

It has to do with foreign policy, nothing more. blind fox news watching fools. Afraid of the Islamofascist Boogeymen who hide under their beds & in their childrens' closets.

matthylland
02-06-2008, 09:25 PM
(sarcasm)
John McCain is the conservative, anti-war candidate!

wgadget
02-06-2008, 09:27 PM
Ron Paul will never win until there is a MAJOR MAJOR economic crisis. Even then I doubt this country would go for free markets and instead I bet it would embrace socialism.

MAJOR MAJOR economic crisis coming right up.

nullvalu
02-06-2008, 09:28 PM
Ron Paul will never win until there is a MAJOR MAJOR economic crisis. Even then I doubt this country would go for free markets and instead I bet it would embrace socialism.

Won't help a damn thing, because the gov't will still be there to lie, lie, lie. There were riots at the beginning of the Great Depression, most of it politically motivated. People did know what was going on at the time, but they were quickly silenced. It will be no different in the oncoming depression. Start forming your bread line now.

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 09:32 PM
It has to do with foreign policy, nothing more. blind fox news watching fools. Afraid of the Islamofascist Boogeymen who hide under their beds & in their childrens' closets.

I kind of agree.

I have seen many Republicans that are against the abolishment of the Dept. of Education or fear what eliminating the IRS will do. They are not small gov't people anymore is basically my point.

AParadigmShift
02-06-2008, 09:51 PM
What's in a name?

If by conservative we mean the adherence to constitutional principles of limited government, fiscal responsibility, national sovereignty, and a foreign policy of avoiding foreign entanglements. Preserving the Constitution, the freedoms it guarantees. . . then John McCain is not a "conservative".

Conversely, if by conservative we mean the adherence to mean political rhetoric, Keynesian deficit spending, allegiance to sundry supranational agencies, and a foreign policy of complete interventionism. Undoing the Constitution, and the freedoms it guarantees. . . then Dr. Paul is not a "conservative".