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chiplitfam
02-06-2008, 05:55 PM
John McCain was born August 29, 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone, to two U.S. citizens. It's a common misunderstanding that the zone was a U.S. territory - in fact, the U.S. had lease rights, but not territorial rights.

The US Constitution states, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. . . . . .

There are two types of Citizenship in the United States, Natural Born and Naturalized. The fourteenth amendment defines "Natural Born Citizen" as persons born in the United States. . . . . .

The Constitution of the United States, Article 1, Section 8, vests in Congress the power "to establish an uniform rule of naturalization." "Naturalization" is NOT synonymous with "Natural Born Citizen." . . . . .

The position stated in this article is based only upon the Constitution and the intent of the authors of the founding documents of this nation. The only authority on this matter is the Constitution and the intent of the authors. Argumentum ab authoritate est fortissimum in lege - An argument drawn from authority is the strongest in law. Co. Litt. 254.-Maxims of Law from Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary.

You may think it's not fair. You may feel it's not right. . . . . If you don't like the law, by all means work to change it, however, until such time that it is changed John McCain III is not a natural born citizen and therefore not eligible to be President of the United States of America.

Full article: http://www.theamericanvoice.com/

mtmedlin
02-06-2008, 06:09 PM
again.......

do a search before posting

paulpwns
02-06-2008, 06:17 PM
wow.

Give it up, you make us all look bad.

Bradley in DC
02-06-2008, 06:32 PM
Because McCain's parents were citizens when he was born, McCain IS a natural born citizen (no matter where he was born). This is the law: 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401.

Significantly, however, Congress, in which a number of Framers sat, provided in the Naturalization act of 1790 that ''the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, . . . shall be considered as natural born citizens. . . .'' [Act of March 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104. See Weedin v. Chin Bow, 274 U.S. 657, 661 -666 (1927); United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 672 -675 (1898). With minor variations, this language remained law in subsequent reenactments until an 1802 Act, which omitted the italicized words for reasons not discernable. See Act of Feb. 10, 1855, 10 Stat. 604 (enacting same provision, for offspring of American-citizen fathers, but omitting the italicized phrase).]

McCain is either a "natural born citizen" [hint: he is] or a "naturalized" citizen [hint: he's not]--or do you contest his citizenship entirely?

Weedin v. Chin Bow (1927) holds that "at common law the children of our citizen born abroad were always natural born citizen from the standpoint of this government."
It is the consensus of scholars that foreign born children of Americans are natural born citizens. And that would mean that McCain would certainly qualify.

Tugboat1988
02-06-2008, 07:16 PM
When the Iranian students attacked and took hostages at our embassy many years ago, it was an attack on US sovereign soil. When a ship, as in a US naval ship, and flys the American flag and pirates attack, it is an attack on American sovereign soil.

The concept follows the 'Law of the Flag'. Here is the concept: "In maritime law, the law of that nation or country whose flag is flown by a particular vessel. A shipowner who sends his vessel into a foreign port gives notice by his flag to all who enter into contracts with the master that he intends the law of that flag to regulate such contracts, and that they must either submit to its operation or not contract with him."

So, McCain was born on a US military base in that base hospital. Flown at the base is an American flag that gives notice that American law prevails here.

Black's Law Dictionary says there are 4 ways to acquire citizenship. They are; 1) by birth in the United States; 2) by birth in U.S. territories, 3) by birth outside the U.S. to U.S. parents, 4) and by naturalization.

He was born outside the U.S. but on U.S. sovereign soil, under prevailing U.S. law, and born of parents who were not only U.S. Citizens but were active duty U.S. military officers.

I think it would be better to try disqualifying McCain on factors like irrational temper, blocking efforts to located MIAs in the Senate, or on health issues.

Tugboat