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Bryan
02-06-2008, 01:56 PM
Of course not everyone is happy with yesterdays results but as many of us know, we are part of a larger movement fighting against an establishment that has been entrenching itself for a long time; we should be pleased with our progress. It's expected that posting reflect campaign results but a few things are of note:

. Everyone must respect the long established forum guidelines, this includes showing respect for other members such as not calling other members "trolls" (if anything posts contain "troll behavior"). It's understood this isn't always easy under times of great stress but the guidelines have been part of the center of our community for over a million postings. Please respect them or lobby to have them changed.

. The Grassroots Central sub-forum is about supporting the official campaign in its current configuration (more or less). Obviously some users see that supporting other alternatives have more promise in achieving our goals of freedom, prosperity and peace- this is understandable. To that end, we have established a new "Alternatives to Official Campaign" sub-forum which can be used for 3rd party discussion and more. Here is the link:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93

Below is a copy of the forum guidelines for everyone to remember, highlights include various important elements to consider now. If you see violations of the guidelines report them using this icon: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/gfx_RedWhiteBlue/buttons/report.gif

Thank you, carry on- much remains to be done.





The forum guidelines are as follows:

+ Posting of direct or inferred threats of violence against other people or property that is not your own is completely unacceptable by any user and subject to immediate banning.

+ No promotion of illegal activities.

+ Insulting or personally attacking other users is not allowed by any member. There is very little tolerance for violations, particular for new members. Reason: Insults lead to relational which often result in disruption, which dilute the resources of members and the intent of the forum.

+ Off-topic posts - Posts that do not relate to the threads intent are subject to being deleted.

+ Topics posted in the wrong sub-forum are subject to being moved or deleted. Please understand the sub-forum division before starting a new topic. Suggestions for new sub-forums are always welcome. Reason: Leads to most effective use of users resources.

+ Any form of antagonizing other members is not allowed by non-established members.

+ If you are to be critical of another users ideas or message please do so in a respectful manner. It is possible to discuss your points as to why you feel the way you do, ideally you should include alternate suggestions or acknowledge you have none.

+ No posting of graphically offensive material. If there is a valid reason that relates to the campaign as to why something graphic is of value then post a link to the content and provide a clear warning adjacent to the link explaining the issue.

+ Floods of low-value material may be subject to being moved into an alternate sub-forum or deleted. More tolerance will be allowed for established members. Reason: Excessive low value posts dilute users time spent on the forum just reading topic threads.

+ No posting of others personal contact information.

+ No posting of any proclaimed campaign announcement that is not supported with a link to the campaigns homepage or other directly verifiable source.

+ Promoting agendas alternate to the platform of Dr. Paul will have allowances for established members. Controversial topics should focus on facts whenever possible.

+ Use relevant and descriptive topic titles. Poorly titled messages may be renamed. Reason: Respect time of other users.

+ No promoting of campaign tactics or other activity that grossly counter the morals or ethics of Dr. Paul.

+ No excessive / pointless negativity on the campaign, its future or elements of it. All messages with a negative tone about the campaign from new users must provide supportive facts as to why there is a perceived negative and provide some suggested solutions to the issue.

+ Ad hominem attacks on other candidates and their support groups are discouraged. This is not a moderatable offense for established users but will have low tolerances for non-established users. All are encouraged to address other candidates with their proper name. Reason: This activity is discouraged as it can be used to generate a negative image for our support community.

+ Care should be used when soliciting money for some effort to support the campaign as it is totally possible that a scam artist will be looking to take advantage of the good nature of Ron Paul supporters. If you're going to do anything that will solicit taking money you'd be wise to make sure you have some established credibility within the community that matches what you expect. If you don't have that, try to set up some arrangements with a third party that does that so people send money to the trusted third party who make sure it goes where intended.

+ Read the welcoming message for each sub-forum to understand specific guidelines needed to achieve the objective of that sub-forum.

LibertyEagle
02-06-2008, 03:00 PM
bump

tamor
02-06-2008, 03:42 PM
FYI -- Isn't this correct?

Even after Super Tuesday, 8 of the 15 biggest donor states to Ron Paul (per capita) will have yet to vote.

This is extrapolated from data at ronpaulgraphs.com, which captures donor information from the official campaign site.
FYI, the states are ID, WA, OR, WY, DC, TX, VA, and HI.

Sematary
02-06-2008, 03:58 PM
bump

Mark
02-06-2008, 06:22 PM
C:\>

sgrooms
02-06-2008, 06:31 PM
bump

Bradley in DC
02-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Thanks, Bryan.

blakjak
02-06-2008, 08:39 PM
FYI -- Isn't this correct?

Even after Super Tuesday, 8 of the 15 biggest donor states to Ron Paul (per capita) will have yet to vote.

This is extrapolated from data at ronpaulgraphs.com, which captures donor information from the official campaign site.
FYI, the states are ID, WA, OR, WY, DC, TX, VA, and HI.

What were the 7 that have already voted? Would be interesting to do some analysis on those numbers.

INeedATherapist
02-07-2008, 03:05 AM
This page shows unique donors captured from the official Ron Paul campaign web service. These numbers ARE NOT comprehensive (not even close). I think the sample is "random" and large enough now that it's interesting... but be aware that on extremely heavy donation times there will be more missed donors than not:

Top 14 states:
CA - 10,399 - 4%
TX - 7205 - not voted
FL - 4830 - 3%
NY - 3510 - 6%
PA - 2918 - not voted
IL - 2630 - 5%
WA - 2549 - not voted
AZ - 2,362 - 4%
VA - 2341 - not voted
MI - 2296 - 6%
OH - 2192 - not voted
GA - 2019 - 3%
NC - 1963 - note voted
NJ - 1855 - 5%
OR - 1405 - not voted

There's no correlation with most donations and high percentage. However, if we could take into account the % of population, I bet there could be something there.

The only thing I've noticed/heard is the correlation between caucuses and higher numbers. Most probably due to the way they're held. You can't go in and vote and then leave, so they require more faith in the candidate the people vote for. I know voting needs to be easy, but I wish there was a way to make sure every voter was informed... I think the Democrats are responsible for trying to get out the votes without informing them very much. On paper all the candidates look relatively similar, so it does no good to look at charts and decide who you're voting for, sadly.