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justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 12:54 PM
EDIT: Everyone go vote in the other topic's poll because its a corrected one lol. Sorry for screwing this one up, I was trying to change the first options because I figured I should include more than I was, and then I accidently cut out some when I changed some numbers around lol.

[New and improved poll, here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=113992]

I'm sure many of you are curious about whether our support is full of people with higher IQ's just like I am, so I figured I would post a topic finding out our IQ's.

You can go to www.IQtest.com to take a free IQ test, and it seems to be a good one out of the ones I have taken.

You DO NOT HAVE TO ACTUALLY TELL YOUR IQ.

So if its some number that bothers you, like you're low and wish it was higher, or you're high and don't want to come off as lying or bragging, or its average and you wished it was higher, or whatever, then just pick the right option in the poll and don't feel like you have to post your score on here for everyone to know.

But its not like people on here actually know you anyway lol...... so there's nothing to worry about anyway. And not only because of that reason, but also because IQ scores don't exactly tell whether you're dumb or smart anyway. Lots of people with high IQ's are stupid idiots, and lots of people with low IQ's are smart.

If we see an average above 108 then we can safely assume or guess our overall support probably does have a higher than average IQ score because 108 is the average score for an internet IQ test since its online. (Lower scoring people don't have as much of an internet presence as higher scoring people obviously, so thats why the average changes to 8 points higher online than offline)

100 is the average score.

A site with a free IQ test is: www.IQtest.com

And be honest in the poll please!

There's no point in voting in it if you're lying anonymously for no reason except to hurt its accuracy lol....

Chester Copperpot
02-06-2008, 12:55 PM
Everytime I take my IQ it comes out to around 133.

leipo
02-06-2008, 12:56 PM
100

Eponym_mi
02-06-2008, 12:57 PM
125

Santana28
02-06-2008, 12:59 PM
167

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 12:59 PM
My IQ is 136.

RTsquared
02-06-2008, 01:01 PM
Last Internet IQ test I took came out to 153, I think.

Last paper-and-pencil IQ test I took was 17(?) years ago, and my score was 144.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:01 PM
167

That is one impressive IQ if you're serious!:eek:

RockEnds
02-06-2008, 01:02 PM
It's been 27 years since I had a real, state-sponsored IQ test. I really don't place much faith in them, but mine was 145.

Cleaner44
02-06-2008, 01:03 PM
High enough to notice you left 120-130 off of the poll.

krott5333
02-06-2008, 01:05 PM
last time i had a test done (legitimately) I hit a 131.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:05 PM
High enough to notice you left 120-130 off of the poll.

Oops, did I seriously lol? I changed the numbers around to give more options and I must have went back and screwed it up.....:(:mad::rolleyes:

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:07 PM
Eh... it doesn't look like there's a way to edit polls either..... I see how to edit the title but not a poll... maybe an admin will see this topic and edit it for me lol.

mysticgeek
02-06-2008, 01:08 PM
I don't have the patience to take an IQ test. Also I have little faith in them. I like to think I am more a common sense guy than a "book smart" person. Even if a person is a member of MENSA doesn't mean they are not idiotic when it comes to what is best for our nation.

pacelli
02-06-2008, 01:08 PM
You left off most of the Superior range, 120-130.

By the way, that "free IQ" test is completely invalid. A true statistically valid & reliable IQ test is one that includes Verbal as well as Performance (i.e. task-oriented) subtests. The estimation of IQ from verbal-based measures is only used as a last resort for individuals who are unable to complete motor/performance tasks.

Thus the IQ of the posted 'free IQ test' is in the borderline range.

brandon
02-06-2008, 01:08 PM
last time i was back in grade school. When they measured, and then they said I has a score of 79. I cant find the button!

azzuth
02-06-2008, 01:10 PM
134

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:10 PM
How about income? Are there correlations between IQ and income level? It would be pointless to have a high IQ and then be making an average income.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:11 PM
You left off most of the Superior range, 120-130.

By the way, that "free IQ" test is completely invalid. A true statistically valid & reliable IQ test is one that includes Verbal as well as Performance (i.e. task-oriented) subtests. The estimation of IQ from verbal-based measures is only used as a last resort for individuals who are unable to complete motor/performance tasks.

Thus the IQ of the posted 'free IQ test' is in the borderline range.

Well yeah of course its not anywhere close to being a great IQ test, I mean its just some free internet one. I just put it up because I have taken a bunch on the internet and that one was the best one I saw. And someone else mentioned I missed 120-130 too lol. I changed my mind about what ranges I was going to include in the poll and changed some numbers and apparently left a gap when I went back and changed some numbers around.

evandi
02-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Why can't I go lower than 80?

colecrowe
02-06-2008, 01:12 PM
You guys are all so incredibly full of crap. The internet ones do not count--they are often like 20-30 or more points too high!

Mine was 118 when I was 12 or 13, court ordered for a custody mediation, given by an official tester--and it's probably gone down--because I read less and got worse at math, etc. since then

colecrowe
02-06-2008, 01:13 PM
once again, this forum is full of idiots or liars by the looks of this.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:14 PM
How about income? Are there correlations between IQ and income level? It would be pointless to have a high IQ and then be making an average income.

Yeah there is a relation. People with IQ's above 115 supposedly make more money according to some psychological studies. Thats what I read in my psychology book and heard from my psyche class at least.

But its like someone already said on here, IQ tests are not the end-all answer to know if someone is smart or not.

colecrowe
02-06-2008, 01:14 PM
do you know how absolutely incredibly rare those high up numbers are. It's not a regular linear type scale! This is crazy. You are all in the .001 percentile.

Enemies Domestic
02-06-2008, 01:15 PM
My dad is smarter than your dad.

icon124
02-06-2008, 01:15 PM
Im in the 120-130 which you don't have, so I just put 110-120

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:16 PM
You guys are all so incredibly full of crap. The internet ones do not count--they are often like 20-30 or more points too high!

Mine was 118 when I was 12 or 13, court ordered for a custody mediation, given by an official tester--and it's probably gone down--because I read less and got worse at math, etc. since then

Ok so take some internet ones and compare the scores to your 118 then. IQ scores don't chance much over time because they take age into account as well. So if your score is like more than 7 or 8 points higher, then you are probably right, and internet IQ tests are worthless.

I figure they can give you an idea of where your score is though, probably within 10-15 points I would think, but they may not be useful at all like you say idk.

Maestro
02-06-2008, 01:16 PM
I am usually in the 165-170- range ;p

And this IQ factored my age and education into account for the naysayers.

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:17 PM
do you know how absolutely incredibly rare those high up numbers are. It's not a regular linear type scale! This is crazy. You are all in the .001 percentile.

It is the internet after all so you know people are either inflating their numbers or stating the highest result they ever got off of any scam online IQ test.

I'm guessing everyone here is making 6 figures as well.

evandi
02-06-2008, 01:17 PM
I.Q. is B.S.

Maestro
02-06-2008, 01:18 PM
It is the internet after all so you know people are either inflating their numbers or stating the highest result they ever got off of any scam online IQ test.

I'm guessing everyone here is making 6 figures as well.

Actually the people who make six figures have an average GPA of 2.6/4.0

brandon
02-06-2008, 01:21 PM
I can has score of 79!! please help find my button!!

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:21 PM
I.Q. is B.S.

I seem to agree. I never had an I.Q. test before but from what I see the higher the supposed I.Q. of a person, the lower ability to be relevant, connect and appeal to other people.

Oneironaut07
02-06-2008, 01:22 PM
My IQ according to the WAIS-III 151 >(99.9% population)
SAT I 1580 (800 Verbal 780 Math)
College G.P.A.=3.1
Lets just say I party too much :p

MsDoodahs
02-06-2008, 01:22 PM
High enough to notice you left 120-130 off of the poll.

:D crack me up.

Ethek
02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
This is a constitutional Republic. The rule book, for our greatness has been there for everyone. It was penned by geniuses. People smarter than most in knowledge and unmatched in wisdom. I don't know what the founding fathers would have scored.

I have always been impressed with Dr. Paul. I've never questioned that the man is heads and shoulders above anyone in wisdom. Is Ron so impressive just because hes got the smarts or because being constitutionally principled gives him that aura of genius? He definatly benifits from the knowledge of everyone that helped to write the constitution. Still, RP turns biased questions around so quickly I've got to think that his IQ is way up there.

As for the rest of us that have awakened to the constitution. We've got the smarts of the founders with us too.

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
Actually the people who make six figures have an average GPA of 2.6/4.0

According to who?

2.6 GPA won't get you into any Medical, Vet, or Pharmacy school. Maybe it is true of years past but College is way more competitive than it has ever been and 2.6 doesn't even get accepted at the major state colleges out here in the West.

humanic
02-06-2008, 01:23 PM
I've taken a few IQ tests, including a "professional" one when I was a kid to get into the "gifted" program, and I've scored between 149 and 156.

That said, I'm not convinced those tests are as telling about a person's intelligence as they're cracked up to be, and the online tests that I've seen have been an absolute joke.

Novise
02-06-2008, 01:27 PM
The internet test (like Tickle.com and some others I have taken) always said I had an IQ of 129, but an official test I took from a psychologist years ago said I had 127, in my case the internet has never been that far off and never put me over 129. Now my EQ is probably borderline retarted, but I mean well!

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:29 PM
I've taken a few IQ tests, including a "professional" one when I was a kid to get into the "gifted" program, and I've scored between 149 and 156.

That said, I'm not convinced those tests are as telling about a person's intelligence as they're cracked up to be, and the online tests that I've seen have been an absolute joke.

The real I.Q. test is life. If you have a 160 I.Q. and make 50,000 dollars a year than obviously something is broken. Someone with that high of an I.Q. should be able to play the markets like a fiddle.

sillvergirl
02-06-2008, 01:29 PM
170. Intelligence is key to discerning truth. Dr. Ron Paul speaks the truth!

pacelli
02-06-2008, 01:30 PM
do you know how absolutely incredibly rare those high up numbers are. It's not a regular linear type scale! This is crazy. You are all in the .001 percentile.

If that were a legitimate IQ test, which it is not, and I saw the same results based on these forums, I would say it had to do with a skewed sample. Remember that this is a political forum. Participants in any online political discussion forum will be skewed toward normal to high average, rather than the reverse.

Individuals scoring in the Low Average to Borderline ranges of IQ are generally unable to provide elaborate answers to questions about government process.

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:31 PM
Individuals scoring in the Low Average to Borderline ranges of IQ are generally unable to provide elaborate answers to questions about government process.

They are also generally inclined to vote for McCain.

Ethek
02-06-2008, 01:33 PM
They are also generally inclined to vote for McCain.

...all too easy.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:35 PM
If that were a legitimate IQ test, which it is not, and I saw the same results based on these forums, I would say it had to do with a skewed sample. Remember that this is a political forum. Participants in any online political discussion forum will be skewed toward normal to high average, rather than the reverse.

Individuals scoring in the Low Average to Borderline ranges of IQ are generally unable to provide elaborate answers to questions about government process.

Yeah you have to realize these factors will make the results higher:

1. This is the internet. Most of the people that would score below like 75 won't be taking the test. This bumps the average up to 108 according to what IQtest.com claims. Obviously the accuracy can be disputed but its only common sense that the score of an internet sample WILL be higher than if it was not on the internet.

2. We're all on a political forum, so its more likely we have a higher concentration of intelligent people here.

3. We're Paul supporters, and we figured out his positions are correct on our own, which implies very good problem solving skills obviously since the media didn't help us find figure this stuff out lol.....

Those things make a big difference, and I'm sure there are a lot of other factors that make the scores on here higher than normal.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:38 PM
The scores on here are falling into the top 15% of the population roughly I think from my estimating.

UziSprayTF
02-06-2008, 01:44 PM
148.

But its fuckin' varied across the categories.

I have a condition, it's not quite autism because I am very sociable, but it is similar. I forget what it's called, but I basically only and exclusively think in pictures/movies. This makes the verbal parts of IQ test very very difficult for me. My verbal score was 100 when I took the test last. However, this allows me to excel at my job (civil/structural engineering)

I scored 161 on the visual/spatial section of the test. All together it totaled 148.

This website, written by someone else that is like me, basically describes the way I view things.

http://www.grandin.com/inc/visual.thinking.html

Anyone on here who makes a claim of having an IQ higher than 170 can pm me for 10 questions. If you can answer ONE of the questions given a weeks worth of time I will believe you.

JordanQ72
02-06-2008, 01:45 PM
This seems suspect. I got a 148, and never had a professional IQ test, but I consider myself pretty stupid in a lot of ways.

mczerone
02-06-2008, 01:47 PM
I've never taken a real one - though my online scores have ranged generally from 140 - 160 over the years.

Here's a question: has anyone placed in the top 500 in the Putnam (college math) competition?

morerocklesstalk
02-06-2008, 01:50 PM
I've never taken a real one - though my online scores have ranged generally from 140 - 160 over the years.

Here's a question: has anyone placed in the top 500 in the Putnam (college math) competition?

No clue what that even is.

I don't know anyone my age that has taken an I.Q. and probably with good reason. It seems way too flawed.

TwiLeXia
02-06-2008, 01:50 PM
I don't like IQ tests, but I usually average around 145. I was tempted to compulsively lie and choose 170+ XD

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:53 PM
I don't like IQ tests, but I usually average around 145. I was tempted to compulsively lie and choose 170+ XD

lol.....


I put a new topic up with a better poll too.

UziSprayTF
02-06-2008, 01:54 PM
The scores on here are falling into the top 15% of the population roughly I think from my estimating.

No man, you got to be careful when you average IQ scores. The average IQ of two people one with a score of 100 and one with a score of 130 IS NOT 115.

this is because a score of 100 translates to 1 in 2 while a score of 130 translates to a score of 1 in 50. So the odds of chosing these two people at random from the population is much much less probable than two people with an IQ of 115 which has a ratio of 1 in 7. You are roughly twice as likely to grab 2 people with an IQ of 115. The "average" then of 130 and 100 is actualy around 123 or 124 which is strange, I know.

mavtek
02-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Last time I did a test I scored 139.

Airborn
02-06-2008, 01:56 PM
Well I be damn, I took that "Free IQ" test the OP posted and guess what, it's not free! Thanks alot, that ticked me off. 40 questions and then clicking for results, page comes up wanting $9.99, free alright...:rolleyes:

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 01:59 PM
No man, you got to be careful when you average IQ scores. The average IQ of two people one with a score of 100 and one with a score of 130 IS NOT 115.

this is because a score of 100 translates to 1 in 2 while a score of 130 translates to a score of 1 in 50. So the odds of chosing these two people at random from the population is much much less probable than two people with an IQ of 115 which has a ratio of 1 in 7. You are roughly twice as likely to grab 2 people with an IQ of 115. The "average" then of 130 and 100 is actualy around 123 or 124 which is strange, I know.

I don't get what you're saying, your IQ must be like 160 I bet isn't it?! lol....

Na I was just saying if you look at most people's scores the majority of them are above whatever, which is in the top 15% of the population.

Like 140 is in the top 2% I think, so if everyone was above 140 then I would be saying it looks like most of us are in the top 2% of the population.

I think you and I are describing two different things maybe?

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Well I be damn, I took that "Free IQ" test the OP posted and guess what, it's not free! Thanks alot, that ticked me off. 40 questions and then clicking for results, page comes up wanting $9.99, free alright...:rolleyes:

Na its free, you just have to click around until you find the way to look at your score for free. You have to buy your IQ report thing if you want that.

I just thought about something else too, it shows a sample IQ score of something, so some people might think its their own score and be putting that in the poll lol.... I hope not though.

Wyurm
02-06-2008, 02:01 PM
Well I be damn, I took that "Free IQ" test the OP posted and guess what, it's not free! Thanks alot, that ticked me off. 40 questions and then clicking for results, page comes up wanting $9.99, free alright...:rolleyes:

geeze dude, just keep telling it no. It will still give you the results.

Gimme Some Truth
02-06-2008, 02:03 PM
Scored 150

I'm guessing that since the majority of us are around 140 , it seems that we are in amongst the top 7% nationally.....

Hence the 7% national poll numbers ;)

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bucfish
02-06-2008, 02:06 PM
178 when I was in 3rd grade.

exformation
02-06-2008, 02:07 PM
142, not that I trust an online IQ test or anything

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Scored 150

I'm guessing that since the majority of us are around 140 , it seems that we are in amongst the top 7% nationally.....

Hence the 7% national poll numbers ;)

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Yeah thats what I'm seriously wondering now, if voting shows an IQ divide among people. Of course there would be lots of anomalies of smart people with low IQ's making the right choice, or lots of dumb people with high IQ's making the wrong choice voting, but generally the entire population might vote according to their IQ's in relation to candidates' positions on issues.

(high IQ's may equal correct positions and policies generally, and low IQ's may equal smooth talking and nice hair?)

Its interesting to think about, but its like what has already been said, IQ is not everything, but it is influencial I think.

EvilNight
02-06-2008, 02:09 PM
I had a few state sponsored tests in school. Got 170 (the max) on one in 3rd grade (which is not magic - I was reading Chronicles of Narnia, Hardy Boys, Choose Your Own Adventure books at the time, my english was way ahead and skewed the test). I got 156 on another as a junior in high school. I had a perfect score on the ASVAB. I never got around to taking SAT tests, they just weren't necessary back then so I didn't bother. I doubt I'd have bothered studying and would have probably come out in the low 1500s.

All of the online tests max out around 140 anyway. They are crap meant to make you feel good and smart. Real IQ tests will make you think hard and long and take some time. Find real logic problems and puzzles instead of tests - they will help you make the best of your grey matter.

If you can solve this problem then you are smart enough to teach yourself and solve most problems. Give it a try, it's fun.
http://www.whitedovebooks.co.uk/inspiration/logic-problems.htm

I'd love to see the results of the Jung Meyers/Briggs personality test for this group. I bet it's heavy on INTJ.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

The distribution for this forum looks reasonable given that most people's tests will have been the online kind. The actual average here is probably between 120-130. That's a full standard deviation above the normal intelligence level, which is nothing at all to sneeze at.

I never took the Putnam exam. One of my co-workers here has and he got a 2 out of 12 back when the scoring was one point per question. He spends his days writing software algorithms that optimize retail store locations, streamline supply line problems, optimize sales force deployments, etc. He's quite a clever guy. It stinks that only 2 or 3 of the people at my company have any idea that without his algorithms we would have no product to sell. He seems to think I'm pretty smart and busts my balls all the time for not pursuing mathematics and engineering when I was in college.

Wyurm
02-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Na its free, you just have to click around until you find the way to look at your score for free. You have to buy your IQ report thing if you want that.

I just thought about something else too, it shows a sample IQ score of something, so some people might think its their own score and be putting that in the poll lol.... I hope not though.

I'll bet quite a few of us have had the 'official' IQ tests. I suspect you already had an idea about where the results would end and you are correct. It is only logical, look at it like this: those with higher intelligence tend to have difficulty communicating with those of average and lower intelligence (try convincing someone that Ron Paul could win if they would stop with the "I love everything he says but he can't win and I don't want to waste my vote" garbage). Now, keep in mind that you are not getting a good measure of all the RP supporters, rather you are getting a measure of the higher tier of supporters, regarding IQ.

So, the hardcore base of the Revolution is comprised of above average to genius level IQ also indicating that it likely has social skills that turn the average off worse than wearing a wreath of garlic cloves. It is only logical that we would achieve the results you are seeing in your poll. Now, all that we need to do is harness that intelligence and use it to regain liberty.

cero
02-06-2008, 02:16 PM
damn I'm a retard

Santana28
02-06-2008, 02:21 PM
That is one impressive IQ if you're serious!:eek:

yup - real test number. actually, online IQ tests usually put me in the 130-150 range.

of course, i'm currently a mall security guard with a high school diploma... whats that say about IQ scores?? ;)

i really dont think that number is necessarily accurate, anyways. just abstract reasoning... thats all.

i will say that i have never met more intelligent and thoughtful people in my life before i got involved in this. and we're not all genius multi-millionaires, either.

<~~~ INTJ, btw.

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 02:21 PM
I'll bet quite a few of us have had the 'official' IQ tests. I suspect you already had an idea about where the results would end and you are correct. It is only logical, look at it like this: those with higher intelligence tend to have difficulty communicating with those of average and lower intelligence (try convincing someone that Ron Paul could win if they would stop with the "I love everything he says but he can't win and I don't want to waste my vote" garbage). Now, keep in mind that you are not getting a good measure of all the RP supporters, rather you are getting a measure of the higher tier of supporters, regarding IQ.

So, the hardcore base of the Revolution is comprised of above average to genius level IQ also indicating that it likely has social skills that turn the average off worse than wearing a wreath of garlic cloves. It is only logical that we would achieve the results you are seeing in your poll. Now, all that we need to do is harness that intelligence and use it to regain liberty.

Yeah I was figuring the common IQ score for people on this forum would be around 120-135, which is about what the poll is saying. And yeah I realize the entire group supporting Paul would be vastly different in IQ scoring, but I was mainly interested in the actual supporters like people on here, not just random voter type people thinking "well he has no chance of winning but I guess I will vote for him" or whatever.

Its funny you pointed out the thing about social skills though. Its funny, but probably sadly kind of true if our IQ's really are a little higher than average. As for putting that intelligence to work to win, I think we already have in some ways, I mean we did set the 1-day fundraising record despite a media blackout....

And Cero, you can't be a retard if you're supporting Paul!:D;)

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 02:22 PM
yup - real test number. actually, online IQ tests usually put me in the 130-150 range.

of course, i'm currently a mall security guard with a high school diploma... whats that say about IQ scores?? ;)

i really dont think that number is necessarily accurate, anyways. just abstract reasoning... thats all.

i will say that i have never met more intelligent and thoughtful people in my life before i got involved in this. and we're not all genius multi-millionaires, either.

I agree, IQ's are influencial, but not nearly a complete measure of intelligence. Its still an impressive score though.

Airborn
02-06-2008, 02:23 PM
well I must be really dumb then, because that site doesn't list General IQ for me.. just a page wanting a CC number

BigRedBrent
02-06-2008, 02:27 PM
I don't have the patience to take an IQ test. Also I have little faith in them. I like to think I am more a common sense guy than a "book smart" person. Even if a person is a member of MENSA doesn't mean they are not idiotic when it comes to what is best for our nation.

I tend to agree. Even Einstein had his problems.

Wyurm
02-06-2008, 02:28 PM
I'd love to see the results of the Jung Meyers/Briggs personality test for this group. I bet it's heavy on INTJ.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp


No, I'm INTP

justinc.1089
02-06-2008, 02:34 PM
I tend to agree. Even Einstein had his problems.

Einstein's IQ was 200 though.....lol

Santana28
02-06-2008, 02:34 PM
No, I'm INTP

even better. i test consistently 50/50 J/P... i grew up with a J father and a P mother, so i've got a pretty good handle on both aspects of my personality.

www.INTJforum.com is my second favorite, besides this one of course :) lots of Ron Paul supporters in that bunch!

SaratogaForRonPaul
02-06-2008, 02:36 PM
If you can solve this problem then you are smart enough to teach yourself and solve most problems. Give it a try, it's fun.
http://www.whitedovebooks.co.uk/inspiration/logic-problems.htm

I'd love to see the results of the Jung Meyers/Briggs personality test for this group. I bet it's heavy on INTJ.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp



I solved the "Einstein" problem previously. Its a basic logic problem,where you use the different elements to eliminate possibilities until there is only one possibility left.

As for the Jung Meyers/Briggs test, I used to be an INTJ, but it seems like my years in starting a company and running the local Ron Paul movement had an impact. My rating is now an ENTJ, or what is classified as a Field Marshall.

autobot
02-06-2008, 02:36 PM
What a bunch of nerds!!!!! ROFL!!!

nerdiest nerds ever!!! :p


I think its safe to say we are mostly a group of people on the fringes of the right side of the IQ bell curve. I want to start a Ron Paul think tank, I think....


Bookworms unite!!!!


on a serious note, I was watching the CFR videos of lectures and it occured to me that they were drawing people into the cfr fold by flattering them and appealing to the high IQ of the group. High IQ people want to be appreciated for their genius, right? who doesn't?? When you are smarter than 98-99% of humankind it gets kind of lonely, I am right, here?? I think that is how they work to sway public officials and media personalities. Flattery of superior intellect. If we could have a dignified, intellectual group or "Council" perhaps we could get these intellectuals on the RP side of thought. Wisdom and intelligence are not the same thing, btw. We need more wisdom in the intellectual crowd of this nation.

Santana28
02-06-2008, 02:40 PM
on a serious note, I was watching the CFR videos of lectures and it occured to me that they were drawing people into the cfr fold by flattering them and appealing to the high IQ of the group. High IQ people want to be appreciated for their genius, right? who doesn't?? When you are smarter than 98-99% of humankind it gets kind of lonely, I am right, here?? I think that is how they work to sway public officials and media personalities. Flattery of superior intellect. If we could have a dignified, intellectual group or "Council" perhaps we could get these intellectuals on the RP side of thought. Wisdom and intelligence are not the same thing, btw. We need more wisdom in the intellectual crowd of this nation.

that main difference between them and us - is that THEY are insecure in their self-worth and need the security and comfort of large groups or absolute control to confirm their self worth. we just need to be ourselves ;)

UziSprayTF
02-06-2008, 02:42 PM
I don't get what you're saying, your IQ must be like 160 I bet isn't it?! lol....

Na I was just saying if you look at most people's scores the majority of them are above whatever, which is in the top 15% of the population.

Like 140 is in the top 2% I think, so if everyone was above 140 then I would be saying it looks like most of us are in the top 2% of the population.

I think you and I are describing two different things maybe?

First off an IQ of 140 with a SD of 15 puts you in the top 99.63 percentile.

Secondly what I am trying to describe is that averaging out intelligences is not straight forward. If you want to say the majority (80%+ of members) are above 115 that's fine, but you cant say the average is 130 just by using a weighted average. You first have to convert the iqs into percentiles or fractions then work backwards from there back into IQ. Statistics is a bitch man. I wish there was an actuarial guy on this board to explain it better. :(

To the other poster:

I'm an ENTJ.

E - 98 to I - 2
N - 99 to S - 1
T - 97 to F - 3
J - 60 to P - 40

:)

Santana28
02-06-2008, 02:44 PM
ENTJs are my favorite people in the world :)

i'm an "I" but when i am around people who i am genuinely comfortable with and consider to be equal on some level my "E" comes out big time.

misconstrued
02-06-2008, 02:53 PM
I've taken 2 professional tests and an online test. I got a 181 and a 183 on the pro tests and a 154 on the online test.

axiomata
02-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Never had a real IQ test, and these online ones, besides being a waste of time are mostly inaccurate. I found this site (http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/GREIQ.aspx) to be interesting. It is an interpolative scaling from GRE scores to IQ.

According this this source, my IQ would be about 135.77 on a 15 SD IQ test, 138.15 on a 16 SD test, and a percentile of 99.145.

syborius
02-06-2008, 02:58 PM
High enough to notice you left 120-130 off of the poll.

LoL :D

syborius
02-06-2008, 03:01 PM
even better. i test consistently 50/50 J/P... i grew up with a J father and a P mother, so i've got a pretty good handle on both aspects of my personality.

www.INTJforum.com is my second favorite, besides this one of course :) lots of Ron Paul supporters in that bunch!

haha, Nice Santana, I am an INTP/J too, more P these days because of apathy I suppose. IQ is right around 145. funny enough I am guessing that we have a disproportionate amount of INTJ's on these boards compared to the other campaigns , judging at least from the career paths some of you have taken.

LibertyEagle
02-06-2008, 03:02 PM
New and improved poll, here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=113992

autobot
02-06-2008, 03:02 PM
that main difference between them and us - is that THEY are insecure in their self-worth and need the security and comfort of large groups or absolute control to confirm their self worth. we just need to be ourselves ;)

I think most people on this forum are insecure just like any other group of people. Everyone needs other people. everyone wants to be appreciated. Why else post your IQ score? Nothing wrong with human nature. Its what makes life worth living. If we accept it and use it for good and not evil it would make us stronger. We need the comfort of a very, very big group. The immense power of the state is breathtaking. We should also do fundraisers for police and armed forces killed and harmed in the line of duty, so they realize where their bread is buttered...... If we would have put the blimp money towards caring for soldiers and police, just think about that would be like. Who would they want protect and serve, then? The people who show them love and money and gratitude, or the state who says, go back to Iraq?

axiomata
02-06-2008, 03:03 PM
haha, Nice Santana, I am an INTP/J too, more P these days because of apathy I suppose. IQ is right around 145. funny enough I am guessing that we have a disproportionate amount of INTJ's on these boards compared to the other campaigns , judging at least from the career paths some of you have taken.

INTJ here too.

LibertyEagle
02-06-2008, 03:10 PM
INTJ here too.

Ha. Me too. :)