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Bruce4Ron
02-06-2008, 10:12 AM
Someone convince me that a brokered convention is possible.

If it is possible, what is the strategy going to be?

For those who don't know what a brokered convention is, you can read it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention

gracebkr
02-06-2008, 10:15 AM
Someone convince me that a brokered convention is possible.

If it is possible, what is the strategy going to be?

For those who don't know what a brokered convention is, you can read it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention

? you are right, it is impossible. Let's not tell our strategy people. We are shooting ourselves in the foot.

colin1
02-06-2008, 10:25 AM
? you are right, it is impossible. Let's not tell our strategy people. We are shooting ourselves in the foot.

Come on, you think the other campaigns haven't worked out every possibility of how a brokered convention might go? Say for arguments sake we have 50 delegates now and we win another 50 by the time of the election. We go in with 100 delegates, McCain has 700, Romney 400 and Huckabee 300. (I know these aren't real or correct numbers but just bear with me). How in the world does the guy with 100 delegates win the nomination? You think all of the neo-con party hacks that are delegates for the other candidates are going to see the light at the convention and vote for Ron? No one has presented a reasonable argument for how all of this could play out so we would win.

Bradley in DC
02-06-2008, 10:28 AM
First of all, here are the rules to know about a brokered convention:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=104384

There are repeated posts about Dr. Paul becoming the Republican presidential nominee in a brokered convention. Most of them are promoting bad information. Here are the actual rules (http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf):

Rules "binding" delegates are determined by the states (http://www.gop.com/images/Press_State_Summaries.pdf): some delegates are not bound at all, others for the first few votes (first, second or third), while other states bind their delegates until they are released.

In order to be eligible to be nominated at all [RNC Rule 40(b) (http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm)], one requirement is to win the majority of delegates in five states (including DC and territories, RNC Rule 27 (http://www.gop.com/About/Rules21-30.htm)).

Now, is a brokered convention possible? Yes. In fact, if Huckabee is not on a McCain ticket going into the convention, it's VERY possible. As the above rules show, McCain, Romney and now Huckabee (thanks Paul supporters in WV!) meet the requirements to be eligible to be nominated. That three way race (hopefully four-way if the new management at HQ were hired in enough time to correct the failures of the official campaign to make a big enough impact in the remaining races!!!) makes it more likely that no candidate will win on the first ballot.

ambiguousscion
02-06-2008, 10:28 AM
It would be too time consuming to go through all the scenarios, but it is possible.

colin1
02-06-2008, 10:40 AM
First of all, here are the rules to know about a brokered convention:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=104384

There are repeated posts about Dr. Paul becoming the Republican presidential nominee in a brokered convention. Most of them are promoting bad information. Here are the actual rules (http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf):

Rules "binding" delegates are determined by the states (http://www.gop.com/images/Press_State_Summaries.pdf): some delegates are not bound at all, others for the first few votes (first, second or third), while other states bind their delegates until they are released.

In order to be eligible to be nominated at all [RNC Rule 40(b) (http://www.gop.com/About/Rules31-41.htm)], one requirement is to win the majority of delegates in five states (including DC and territories, RNC Rule 27 (http://www.gop.com/About/Rules21-30.htm)).

Now, is a brokered convention possible? Yes. In fact, if Huckabee is not on a McCain ticket going into the convention, it's VERY possible. As the above rules show, McCain, Romney and now Huckabee (thanks Paul supporters in WV!) meet the requirements to be eligible to be nominated. That three way race (hopefully four-way if the new management at HQ were hired in enough time to correct the failures of the official campaign to make a big enough impact in the remaining races!!!) makes it more likely that no candidate will win on the first ballot.

Thanks for the post Bradley. Look, I'm not trying to be a d*** here but it seems to me that the party hacks would do anything to stave off a ron paul win at a convention. I think most of the delegates would vote for anyone but Paul. I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary.

markrink
02-06-2008, 11:44 AM
dont for get in many states as well as here in ks we have had people signing up as delagates so that after the first round when thay can vote for whoever thay want we can have ron paul people in those positions so we get to a second round we gain alot of delagates