Something we need to seriously remember

[american.swan]

I think Ron Paul would agree with me on what I am about to say.

As far as the rumor mill goes, I think Ron Paul is in this election primarily to spread the freedom message. Though his chances of actually winning the election goes up everyday, realistically there is a long way to go to get this message to as many of the 200million people living in the USA as possible. If the message doesn't get out to enough people fast enough, Ron Paul won't win and he knows it. He is in this to get as many people interested in the Constitution and freedom as possible.

That being said, no matter Ron Paul wins anything at all, this is a long term battle. The war with the neo-cons and CFR aren't going away. This is just freedoms first strike. Hibernation isn't an option. And freedom has been hibernating in a sense, while the american people eat apple pie and turkey, the CFR and Globalist Corporations have been hard at work.

Others can list the vast strategies needed to win this war, such as running for office yourself or calling for another Constitutional convention. I think the jist of my message is clear. This is going to be a long war, even if Ron Paul is elected, Congress isn't going to be too friendly.

[Lord Xar]

I think Ron Paul would agree with me on what I am about to say.

As far as the rumor mill goes, I think Ron Paul is in this election primarily to spread the freedom message. Though his chances of actually winning the election goes up everyday, realistically there is a long way to go to get this message to as many of the 200million people living in the USA as possible. If the message doesn't get out to enough people fast enough, Ron Paul won't win and he knows it. He is in this to get as many people interested in the Constitution and freedom as possible.

That being said, no matter Ron Paul wins anything at all, this is a long term battle. The war with the neo-cons and CFR aren't going away. This is just freedoms first strike. Hibernation isn't an option. And freedom has been hibernating in a sense, while the american people eat apple pie and turkey, the CFR and Globalist Corporations have been hard at work.

Others can list the vast strategies needed to win this war, such as running for office yourself or calling for another Constitutional convention. I think the jist of my message is clear. This is going to be a long war, even if Ron Paul is elected, Congress isn't going to be too friendly.

I respect your post. But look how far we have gotten towards the SPP/NAU and open borders and Amnesty, and violation of our rights in 6 years? Bush has another 1.5 years, then if we install hillary, obama, or ghoulian or romney.. forget it... that is 4 years on the fast-track of what the current administration as already set in place....... look what the dems did in congress with those benefits for illegals.. its getting downright criminal...

I am not as optimistic as you. I think this 'freedom' message has been going on for a while, and this run by Ron Paul is its last breath. I don't think its the beginning of it.. but rather the culmination of it. I might be completely wrong.. but I think that if ANY person other than Ron Paul (or Tancredo), we will be the NAU in a few short years with the Amero as our currency, pretty much open borders and an almost socialist system...

That is me.. I am paranoid... but - I think in 5 years, its over. Unless Ron Paul is in there...

[ZandarKoad]

Ah, in the long term, all socialist systems are inherently self destructive and unstable. Read Human Action by Ludwig von Mises.

[JS4Pat]

That is me.. I am paranoid... but - I think in 5 years, its over. Unless Ron Paul is in there...
I think I agree.

This is it - If we can't make this happen - it aint going to happen.

We have gone so far down the wrong road - hell it might be too late even with a President Ron Paul.

But he is the perfect candidate and this is the perfect time.

We just have to do whatever it takes to make it happen!

[B964]

I think this is the last chance we have.

[ThePieSwindler]

Well as long as they don't take the 2nd amendment away, i'm sticking around. ;)

[JosephTheLibertarian]

The problem with our immigraton policy is not that we aren't "securing our borders," it's the fact that we have a system that gives illegals an incentive to sneak in here. Once we remove the incentive, we eradicate the problem. Then we can ease off the border and let states handle it, once we get a good handle on things. The current flow of illegals is not healthy to the the overall viability of the economy.

[paulitics]

I think we are in episode 3 of star wars, right before padme me says "so this is how democracy ends, with thunderous applause".

The time that will come will be with the next terrorist attack. Under the giuse of fighting terrorism, the republic becomes an empire. Count dooku = Bin Laden in star wars.

I hat to offend anyone that dislikes star wars, but the anaolgy fits.

[Original_Intent]

If Ron Paul wins it is the beginning.

Best case scenario, we are going to be spending years paying off the national "credit card" this country is seriously going to have to tighten its belt if we are going to leave our children a country at all.

Corporate welfare - gone.

Social welfare - scaled WAY back basic food and shelter, anything else is going to have to be non-government true "charity" of family, friends and neighbors.

80% of the rest that we depend on Big Brother for - gone.

That's the best case scenario.

Worst case scenario - people stick their head in the sand, hope the good times can keep going at least for their lifetime, screw future generations.

It won't last, but sadly if that is the choice people make then when the bottom falls out and we find ourselves slaves in the free country left to us, we (as a whole) will have gotten pretty much what we deserve.

Hate to seem so pessimistic, but we gotta make some hard choices, and sadly I don't think the general population is mature enough to make the hard choices.

[Shink]

Well as long as they don't take the 2nd amendment away, i'm sticking around. ;)

That, unfortunately, isn't something to hold your breath for. Billary is scripted to win, and socialist fascists don't like gun rights. We have to tear the script apart and get Dr. Paul elected.

[Akus]

Something we need to seriously remember ...


I thought you were gonna say "9/11":D

[Mister Grieves]

Worst case scenario - people stick their head in the sand, hope the good times can keep going at least for their lifetime, screw future generations.

I think you touched on a good point there. There are so many people that even if they knew the system was corrupt and couldn't sustain itself for much longer, they would still say "Well, I've done alright by it, so screw it. It's not my fight."

But the real thing to remember is that it is our fight and we must do everything in our power to stop what now seems inevitable. At this point in time it means getting Ron Paul in office.

I don't know how some of these people that ignore what's happening can sleep at night.

[USPatriot36]

Whether Ron Paul wins or loses, this is only the Beginning. What has happened over the past 100 years is only prelude. We can certainly expect dark days ahead but true patiots will not hide in the shadows just because we lose the initial engagement.

No matter how bad things get, we must continue to spread the message of freedom. The worse things get, the more people will be wake up and listen to the message of freedom.

Ron Paul's message is what Americans have been hungry for. It has caused us to form into local meetup groups that we can use as a basis for electing patriots to the state legislatures and the U.S. House of Representatives.

This is Only the Beginning! The only way we fail is if we give up!

[Nefertiti]

I think Ron Paul would agree with me on what I am about to say.

As far as the rumor mill goes, I think Ron Paul is in this election primarily to spread the freedom message. Though his chances of actually winning the election goes up everyday, realistically there is a long way to go to get this message to as many of the 200million people living in the USA as possible. If the message doesn't get out to enough people fast enough, Ron Paul won't win and he knows it. He is in this to get as many people interested in the Constitution and freedom as possible.

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I suggest you sign up for the official Ron Paul mailing list because you are sadly mistaken and spreading defeatist rumors about the campaign. This morning through the mailing list I got an email from campaign manager Kent Snyder that started with this line:

The purpose of a political campaign is to win.

[ShaneC]

I suggest you sign up for the official Ron Paul mailing list because you are sadly mistaken and spreading defeatist rumors about the campaign. This morning through the mailing list I got an email from campaign manager Kent Snyder that started with this line:

The purpose of a political campaign is to win.

While the OP phrased it in a negative light, I do believe the point was...

"Keep spreading the message of Freedom and Liberty"!

That's it. Win, Lose, whatever.

There's a lot of people (myself included) who were/are disenfranchised with the current "mainstream politicos" or just completely indifferent, that are now being turned on to politics to try and make things better.

I am a recovering indifferent.


If you don't turn onto politics, politics will turn on you

[american.swan]

I got an email from campaign manager Kent Snyder that started with this line:

The purpose of a political campaign is to win.

I don't see where in my paragraph I disagreed with Kent Snyder's statement.

We are in this to win. We are in this to inform the masses. We aren't going to give up.

There are a few who have posted about quiting if Dr. Paul doesn't do well at some point during the campain.

[SWATH]

I agree with Lord Xar

[disinter]

and an almost socialist system...

Newsflash: we are already there... been there for quite some time.

[Nathan Hale]

Whatever the chances, this campaign should continue to seek the nomination. Let's not fall into the Libertarian Party trap of prioritizing "getting out the message" over winning the election.

That said, you might see success sooner than you think. If Dr. Paul wins the Republican nomination, think of the Senate and US Rep candidates in 2008. You're going to see a LOT of Ron Paul Republicans running for nominations under the GOP banner. Many will lose, some will win. And of those who win, some will win the seat outright. Paul will still have an uphill battle in Congress, but there would be a revolution at the polls in more races than just the Presidency.


I think Ron Paul would agree with me on what I am about to say.

As far as the rumor mill goes, I think Ron Paul is in this election primarily to spread the freedom message. Though his chances of actually winning the election goes up everyday, realistically there is a long way to go to get this message to as many of the 200million people living in the USA as possible. If the message doesn't get out to enough people fast enough, Ron Paul won't win and he knows it. He is in this to get as many people interested in the Constitution and freedom as possible.

That being said, no matter Ron Paul wins anything at all, this is a long term battle. The war with the neo-cons and CFR aren't going away. This is just freedoms first strike. Hibernation isn't an option. And freedom has been hibernating in a sense, while the american people eat apple pie and turkey, the CFR and Globalist Corporations have been hard at work.

Others can list the vast strategies needed to win this war, such as running for office yourself or calling for another Constitutional convention. I think the jist of my message is clear. This is going to be a long war, even if Ron Paul is elected, Congress isn't going to be too friendly.

[billv]

Ah, in the long term, all socialist systems are inherently self destructive and unstable. Read Human Action by Ludwig von Mises.

God bless Austrian Economics =)

[Gee]

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

And even Hayek's refutation of socialism has come under attack by informational economics...