Ron Paul / Obama

[noztnac]

Has anyone considered the idea of Ron Paul having a nice private chat with Obama?
If Ron Paul can convince Obama that it is not in America's interest to have an empire there might be some things that can be worked out.

If the eventual president were to do an about face on interventionist foreign policy all of our efforts will have been worthwhile.

He may also be able to convince him of the logic of competing currencies.

I think many Democrats admire Ron Paul for his courageous stand against the war.

If Obama were to select Ron Paul as his VP he would easily win the election. I would be far happier with someone with Ron Paul's integrity as VP than a McCain or Romney presidency. And perhaps he could persuade Obama of the veracity of sound monetary policy and limited government.

We may not be able to have everything in one fell swoop but we have demonstrated that we have good ideas with growing support. Why "broker" anything with the Republicans when they have treated us in such a manner?

Thoughts?

[hummtide]

Honestly, I think you WILL see a Obama/Paul ticket.

[Baseline]

Honestly, I think you WILL see a Obama/Paul ticket.

Honestly, I think you're in dreamland.

[cswake]

NOT going to happen. Obama wants to increase spending by $280 billion, Paul wants to decrease it at least $150 billion. Two different directions.

[Valis33]

Obama = CFR

Don't fool yourself.

Look at all the "front runners". Clinton, Obama, McCain. All CFRers.

[hummtide]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#val=NY

[mikeycapz]

Ron Paul would never, Obama is the biggest joke I have ever seen

[noztnac]

Ron Paul would never, Obama is the biggest joke I have ever seen


I don't particularly like Obama. But I like him better than Hillary, McCain, or Romney. If a guy you don't like is going to get elected it makes sense to try to sway them to your way of thinking.

[noztnac]

Obama = CFR

Don't fool yourself.

Look at all the "front runners". Clinton, Obama, McCain. All CFRers.

That' true. So if you are going to have a CFR guy become president doesn't it make sense to try to influence them? CFR or not Obama can't beat Hillary without some outside support. Ron Paul, when you add Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents, etc. realistically brings about 10-15% of voters to the table...enough to play king maker.

[noztnac]

NOT going to happen. Obama wants to increase spending by $280 billion, Paul wants to decrease it at least $150 billion. Two different directions.

Yes. They disagree on spending. But they may be able to agree on foreign policy. If we are going to increase spending by $280 billion wouldn't it make sense to bring the troops home from overseas. My argument here is not that this would be the ideal plan. What I'm suggesting is that we take what we can get. Obviously we can't have everything. Victory may have to come in incrementally. If we can change US policy to be what the founders envisioned that would be a huge victory for the revolution.

[Drknows]

Obama probably dont even know who Ron Paul is. Hes surrounded by Liberals prepping him up and foaming at the mouth.

[noztnac]

Honestly, I think you're in dreamland.

Dreamland? Sure. But right now we are facing the nightmare of a McCain presidency. How is that better than what I am proposing?

[noztnac]

Obama probably dont even know who Ron Paul is. Hes surrounded by Liberals prepping him up and foaming at the mouth.

You mean "doesn't" know?

As I've stated before...You take what you can get.

[plb]

Ron Paul said the closest person he agrees with is Kucinich and I'd tend to agree...now there's a ticket imho :D

[derekjohnson]

Has anyone considered the idea of Ron Paul having a nice private chat with Obama?
If Ron Paul can convince Obama that it is not in America's interest to have an empire there might be some things that can be worked out.

If the eventual president were to do an about face on interventionist foreign policy all of our efforts will have been worthwhile.

He may also be able to convince him of the logic of competing currencies.

I think many Democrats admire Ron Paul for his courageous stand against the war.

If Obama were to select Ron Paul as his VP he would easily win the election. I would be far happier with someone with Ron Paul's integrity as VP than a McCain or Romney presidency. And perhaps he could persuade Obama of the veracity of sound monetary policy and limited government.

We may not be able to have everything in one fell swoop but we have demonstrated that we have good ideas with growing support. Why "broker" anything with the Republicans when they have treated us in such a manner?

Thoughts?

You must not follow Paul's platform very closely. Obama is a liberal as they come...most liberal in the Senate last year. Paul is the most conservative, why on earth would he ask Paul to be his VP?

[Soccrmastr]

This is possibly the worst thread I have ever read. In terms of stupidity.

[nbhadja]

Obama is corrupt just like the rest of them.

[OptionsTrader]

Obama doesn't need Paul to win, he has an ignorant electorate, the worst president in the history of the nation sitting in the office and vilifying the word "Republican " every day, and a loving media.

Obama will be Clinton's VP.

[Azprint]

I know it is bad example, but it would be same as Stalin/Hitler ticket, they are on different poles dude :)

[tomveil]

This is my wet dream, although with Paul/Obama. Obama gets his experience and can handle the transition of social services. Paul can deal with the foriegn policy.

Too bad it won't happen :(

[Mastiff]

Maybe they could agree on foreign policy, but nothing else. Obama is a huge nanny stater socialist, who also wants to outlaw guns, socialize medicine, increase your taxes 100% and kill the economy with global warming bullshit legislation - plus force you to use compact fluorescent light bulbs and ride public transportation while he's at it :rolleyes:. No thanks.

[hellsingfan]

Can people learn to stop posting this type of shit!!

[Bison]

This actually could be the silliest topic on this forum.

[Drknows]

There is no way in hell Obama is going to team up with Ron Paul.

Hell it looks like he might even win this thing or be clintons vp.

[noztnac]

Maybe they could agree on foreign policy, but nothing else. Obama is a huge nanny stater socialist, who also wants to outlaw guns, socialize medicine, increase your taxes 100% and kill the economy with global warming bullshit legislation - plus force you to use compact fluorescent light bulbs and ride public transportation while he's at it :rolleyes:. No thanks.

I like that you seem to think you are going to have a choice.

[noztnac]

This actually could be the silliest topic on this forum.

In what sense? I've seen many posts claiming we are going to win a brokered election with less than 5% of the vote. Does that really sound more reasonable?

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

The Obama-bots are out in force tonight!!!


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/aspears4/capt66a8af953eaa468a84432fb588df6b7.jpg

[noztnac]

There is no way in hell Obama is going to team up with Ron Paul.

Hell it looks like he might even win this thing or be clintons vp.

Why would he want to be Clinton's VP when he could win it outright? That makes zero sense.

[SRRP77]

The last candidate in terms of both sides I would EVER vote for is Obama. I'd hate to vote against Paul but I would have to.

[RoamZero]

Obama talks about compromise but my sixth sense tells me Obama is the type that holds grudges and is rather judgemental .

[Richandler]

Obama stole pretty much most of our potential votes. So screw Obama.

[Runnerguy]

There's been plenty of crap posted here, but this has got to be the worst post in the history of this board. Not surprisingly it comes from a war loving barrack-o-bot.

[Giuliani was there on 911]

You think Obama doesn't know having an empire isn't a good idea ? Of course he knows that. But he wants MSM support

[noztnac]

The Obama-bots are out in force tonight!!!


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/aspears4/capt66a8af953eaa468a84432fb588df6b7.jpg

There's no Obama bot about it. I've been a supporter of Ron Paul since 1986. But there comes a time when we need to start assessing our potential to make an impact realistically. Ross Perot fared far better than we are doing now and ultimately had no impact whatsoever on anything. He lost and the establishment went right back to doing what they were doing before. In a perfect world Ron Paul would be the president. But we live amongst mindless morons. Sadly, many on this forum seem oblivious to the reality that stubborn single mindedness will not, in and of itself, win. I want, when this entire thing is over, for as many Libertarian ideas implemented as possible into the platform of the winning candidate. Right now Ron Paul has begun talking about raising funds to campaign for his congressional seat. That would seem to indicate that he may intend on attempting to work for the freedom movement from within the Republican Party. Obviously that is one option. But it is certainly not the only one. I'm pretty pissed at the way the Republicans have conducted themselves in this campaign. I will always put principle over party. If anyone wants to join in a reasoned debate feel free to jump in. But please save the ad hominems for your visit to redstate.

[noztnac]

And for the record I prefer that Ron Paul break away from the Republicans right now. A third party run is the best chance at this stage. The Republican ship is sinking. Best to jump off right now.

[Runnerguy]

I always thought that the obama gay sex scandal was untrue, but after this thread I wonder if you're the guy in the video. http://youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY&feature=related


Btw Keep spamming my Pm with garbage, that way you can get banned and we no longer have to deal with posts like this.