Ron Paul got the Atheist vote !

[RonRules]

Look at the results for "Vote by Church Attendance", "Vote By Religion and Attendance", "Abortion Should Be..."

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/pri.../epolls/#GAREP

Interesting !

[ronpaulfollower999]

McCain also got the anti-war vote :mad:

People are idiots.

[PledgeForPaul]

his base is primarily younger aged who are proportionally higher number of atheists. not surprising.

[pacelli]

That's pretty interesting, I didn't think the atheist vote existed ;)

[AlbemarleNC0003]

That's pretty interesting, I didn't think the atheist vote existed ;)

It might. We haven't come to a consensus yet. We're still trying to do something about the *****s. It's hell trying to put people into neat little groups. Especially for us gay atheists. :D

[luvthedoc08]

McCain also got the anti-war vote :mad:

People are idiots.

aint it the truth

[RonRules]

A lot of Atheists/Agnostics are Liberterian. When you're outcast you like to go all the way :)

[vvolf27]

Atheist here, he got my vote and I will attend my caucus to vote there to.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Atheists are suspicious of government and "higher authority." Is it any surprise that Ron cleans up with atheists? Half the regular members of this message board are atheists, which is hugely disproportionate to the general population.

[dan barry]

Agnostic here. We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

[nate895]

When it says people who don't attend church, it could also mean people who are disgusted by churches bending over backwards to the will of the government and only spending their money on bigger buildings.

[Truth Warrior]

That's pretty interesting, I didn't think the atheist vote existed ;)
No, it's the atheist candidates that don't exist. ;)

[jumpyg1258]

Im an agnostic for Paul and as a bonus my favorite musician is Marilyn Manson. =)

[ronpaulfollower999]

When it says people who don't attend church, it could also mean people who are disgusted by churches bending over backwards to the will of the government and only spending their money on bigger buildings.

Im a Christian but I don't like to go to church. Too many sheep.

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

Thank God for the Atheist vote! but I'm not sure about the agnostics....

[hells_unicorn]

I'm wondering who's been getting the Catholic vote, although most of the states that have been run so far are disproportionately Protestant, particularly Baptist, with perhaps the exception of Michigan.

[RonRules]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
He is Pro Life
He doesn't believe in Evolution.

What's wrong with you Atheists?

OK, mind you the other choices were nothing to go gaga over, but still !

[derdy]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
He is Pro Life
He doesn't believe in Evolution.

What's wrong with you Atheists?

OK, mind you the other choices were nothing to go gaga over, but still !


You forgot: Pro-CONSTITUTION
Consistent voting record.
And just because you're atheist, doesn't mean you can't be pro-life like myself.

[AlbemarleNC0003]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
He is Pro Life
He doesn't believe in Evolution.

What's wrong with you Atheists?

OK, mind you the other choices were nothing to go gaga over, but still !

He doesn't support gay people either, but hell, he supports INDIVIDUALS. That's all I needed.

[MGreen]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
So is much of the country.


He is Pro Life
I admit I'm somewhat fine with abortion, but I agree with Paul that the federal government has no say in the matter. I also agree that it's not a matter of "choice" or privacy, but when life begins.


He doesn't believe in Evolution.
I'm not sure that's completely accurate, but even if he absolutely rejects the scientific consensus that evolution is the explanation for the diversity of life on the planet, it has zero impact on his job as President.

I assume you were mostly talking in jest, but there are your answers. :p

Atheists for Paul all ze way!

[RonRules]

You forgot: Pro-CONSTITUTION
Consistent voting record.
And just because you're atheist, doesn't mean you can't be pro-life like myself.

I used to be Pro-Life and Atheist. I have NEVER met one.

I flip-flopped on the Pro-Life position.

[JGalt]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
He is Pro Life
He doesn't believe in Evolution.

What's wrong with you Atheists?

OK, mind you the other choices were nothing to go gaga over, but still !

At least Ron Paul doesn't want to turn the United States of America into the People's Republic of Jesusland...

[Young_Apprentice]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
He is Pro Life
He doesn't believe in Evolution.

What's wrong with you Atheists?

OK, mind you the other choices were nothing to go gaga over, but still !

Why should his religious beliefs matter so long as he doesn't push them on me?

I'm a pro-life atheist. I believe life begins at conception and that abortion is murder. Atheism and "pro-choice" don't necessarily go hand in hand.

[JAM824A]

Agnostic here. We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

Ya, I could believe that... Here's a nice song, along those lines, for which one could argue is making that exact same point (though, like most of Water's, it probably is about a lot of stuff)...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=djfbTCZ5HZg&feature=related

The really quiet, inaudible portion:
"The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by,
With bright knives he releaseth my soul,
He maketh me hang on hooks in high places, He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, he hath great power and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones,
through quiet reflection, and great dedication,
Master the art of Karate.
Lo we shall rise up,
And then we shall make the buggers eyes water."

[pacelli]

It might. We haven't come to a consensus yet. We're still trying to do something about the *****s. It's hell trying to put people into neat little groups. Especially for us gay atheists. :D

:D:D:eek::D:D

[derdy]

I used to be Pro-Life and Atheist. I have NEVER met one.

I flip-flopped on the Pro-Life position.

That's funny. I flipped the other way.

I'm also against the death penalty. I was against the death penalty before I was against almost all abortions.

It's not something I'll get into heated exchanges with anyone about because other people can live their lives as they see fit. I choose to lead by example.

[kyleAF]

Atheist here, too... but not a militant one. Hence my attraction to Ron Paul, despite his pointing out that the First Amendment ALLOWS religion in public places (which is completely true).

I agree, we're freethinkers by definition. We're easily brought on board the ship of freedom.

[Xyrus2]

Let's see:
Ron Paul is a devout Christian.
He is Pro Life
He doesn't believe in Evolution.

What's wrong with you Atheists?

OK, mind you the other choices were nothing to go gaga over, but still !

Uh, because Ron Paul doesn't want to jackhammer his beliefs up our collective asses. :)

~X~

[kyleAF]

Thank God for the Atheist vote! but I'm not sure about the agnostics....

lol

[james1906]

gods and governments are both held in contempt

[break4me]

I'm not atheist, I'm just against organized religions. I think those that are atheists tend to be free-thinkers that have the ability to not be told how to vote. That is probably the correlation.

[thexjib]

You forgot: Pro-CONSTITUTION
Consistent voting record.
And just because you're atheist, doesn't mean you can't be pro-life like myself.

im an atheist and prolife

[Ibtz]

I'm a pro-life Catholic who voted for Paul in the SC primary. Not sure how many of us there are though.

[RPinSEAZ]

Agnostic here and I support Ron Paul because I don't want anybody's beliefs imposed on me, including the atheists.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

im an atheist and prolife :confused::confused:

now there's a first.

[derdy]

:confused::confused:

now there's a first.

or a 3rd if you read the other posts.

[4RP08inKCMO]

http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/1012/Go-God-Go!.html

[undergroundrr]

Another pro-life atheist here, just checking in.

[RonRules]

I guess the Ron Paul's campaign was PERFECTLY targeted at the Pro-Life Atheists!

We all come together in this little thread. Seriously, I have NEVER met any in 30 years.

No wonder the lousy results!

[Young_Apprentice]

I guess the Ron Paul's campaign was PERFECTLY targeted at the Pro-Life Atheists!

We all come together in this little thread. Seriously, I have NEVER met any in 30 years.

No wonder the lousy results!

Most "atheists" I've met don't really understand what atheism means. It doesn't surprise me that they're also pro-abortion and pro-socialism.

[cyrax]

W00t my fellows atheists!

[nbhadja]

I'm also an atheist.

[Malakai0]

Agnostic here. We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

Me too. It sure seems that way doesn't it!

[rmholla]

Most "atheists" I've met don't really understand what atheism means. It doesn't surprise me that they're also pro-abortion and pro-socialism.


Really? Exactly what do YOU understand "atheism" to mean???

Not believing in a Fairy Sky Pixie really isn't that hard of a concept to grasp. And not believing in any God, gods, or goddesses is the ONLY thing every atheist has in common.

I am an atheist and while I personally feel abortion is wrong, I am pro-choice.

Being pro-choice isn't the same thing as being pro-abortion. I don't feel I have a right to force some woman who was raped to carry the child to term. Sorry, I just cannot be that emotionally cruel.

With all the atheist supporters Ron Paul has I'm not sure why you claim atheists are pro-socialism.

I have yet to see any credible evidence to support the existence of any god, therefore I am an atheist.

Bald isn't a hair color. Clear isn't a color. Not collecting postage stamps isn't a hobby. And atheism is not a religion.


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[Atheist73]

Another Atheist for Ron Paul here!

[mport1]

Yep, he got my vote.

[Tarzan]

I get a kick out of all the labels we try to place on others and outselves... (actually, I find it a bit tiresome). Perhaps one day humanity will be able to break these tired old junior high notions of trying to show how smart we are by being able to define people with all these labels... though I doubt it.

As for me I reject the "atheist" or "agnostic" labels...
I just go with "non-superstitious"... and I voted for Ron Paul.

[lasenorita]

Bald isn't a hair color. Clear isn't a color. Not collecting postage stamps isn't a hobby. And atheism is not a religion.
It really depends on how you look at it.

Bald may not be a hair color, but it is a hair style. Clear isn't exactly a color, but its transparency is a visual perceptual property. Not collecting postage stamps isn't a hobby, but it is a choice. And Atheism might not be a religion, but it is a belief system. ;)

[James Madison]

I'm a Christian but I don't go to church. To tell the truth, I just got sick and tired of the greed and corruption in the pews.

[G-Wohl]

Really? Exactly what do YOU understand "atheism" to mean???

Not believing in a Fairy Sky Pixie really isn't that hard of a concept to grasp. And not believing in any God, gods, or goddesses is the ONLY thing every atheist has in common.

I am an atheist and while I personally feel abortion is wrong, I am pro-choice.

Being pro-choice isn't the same thing as being pro-abortion. I don't feel I have a right to force some woman who was raped to carry the child to term. Sorry, I just cannot be that emotionally cruel.

With all the atheist supporters Ron Paul has I'm not sure why you claim atheists are pro-socialism.

I have yet to see any credible evidence to support the existence of any god, therefore I am an atheist.

Bald isn't a hair color. Clear isn't a color. Not collecting postage stamps isn't a hobby. And atheism is not a religion.


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+3000 internets for this post. You have my sincere respect, sir.

[ARealConservative]

I get a kick out of all the labels we try to place on others and outselves... (actually, I find it a bit tiresome). Perhaps one day humanity will be able to break these tired old junior high notions of trying to show how smart we are by being able to define people with all these labels... though I doubt it.

As for me I reject the "atheist" or "agnostic" labels...
I just go with "non-superstitious"... and I voted for Ron Paul.

You just labeled those that use labels as junior high schoolers. :D

[Tarzan]

You just labeled those that use labels as junior high schoolers. :D

Maybe I am a believer... because I believe you are right. :)
I must now label myself as "busted". :D

[Raul08]

Im finding this is an odd celebration thread.

Why do we celebrate getting one groups vote?

Some of the statements have been borderline offensive to anyone with a religon.

Such as:
Originally Posted by dan barry View Post
Agnostic here. We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

As a Christian doesnt that imply that I am somehow brainwashed? Just some statements I was shocked to hear from such a great group of people.

We shouldnt be going crazy because we won the gay vote, the atheist vote, or the Christian vote for that matter.
If we are equal minded people we should be winning the understanding and support of the PEOPLE.

[ARealConservative]

Im finding this is an odd celebration thread.

Why do we celebrate getting one groups vote?

What you say has a lot of truth.

.....Also, that the media even brings this up should tell us exactly how great the victory is.

[IRO-bot]

Im finding this is an odd celebration thread.

Why do we celebrate getting one groups vote?

Some of the statements have been borderline offensive to anyone with a religon.

Such as:
Originally Posted by dan barry View Post
Agnostic here. We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

As a Christian doesnt that imply that I am somehow brainwashed? Just some statements I was shocked to hear from such a great group of people.

We shouldnt be going crazy because we won the gay vote, the atheist vote, or the Christian vote for that matter.
If we are equal minded people we should be winning the understanding and support of the PEOPLE.

Perhaps he could have worded it better. Free'er to develope his own morals and standards because they are not dictated to him from an "All knowing being", that we cannot see, smell, taste, or touch.

[Raul08]

Its still just a matter of faith. Iv been a supporter since the beg. when we were at like 1%. Now most people laughed but I had faith and the movement has grown. We no longer look like ideological potheads supporting a canidate because we want our marijuana. We look more legit.

[Rhys]

To me, if there is no God, then fuck it. NWO away. I'll enslave you!

[Ron Paul Vermont]

Agnostic here. We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

Maybe thats cause you already are? :D Jk couldn't resist. Im a Christian RP supporter. Its nice that RP brings us all together...

[Alex Libman]

We non-believers have less likelihood of being brainwashed. Thats a fact.

I'm a proud atheist, but I'm skeptical of that. A lot of nonbelievers get sucked into a lot of wacky socialist ideas - just look at France and Sweden! The global warming hoax is a cult that mostly attracted atheists, at least before the government and profit-seeking corporations got involved. And the atheist birthrate is so low that if it wasn't for conversion to atheism we'd be long extinct!

[H Roark]

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[G-Wohl]

To me, if there is no God, then fuck it. NWO away. I'll enslave you!

I hope you're not saying that the only reason you believe in our cause is because, otherwise, if you didn't have some intergalactic fairy monster in the sky dictating our every lives, you'd be just like the other neo-cons. I'm not entirely sure how principled that would make you.

[BagOfEyebrows]

Former semi-atheist/agnostic here -

If God is just the principles of liberty, freedom and peace, then it makes sense that atheists, who find a lot of contradictions in the man-written Bible and other religious texts, would logically gravitate towards a candidate who promotes the logic and compassion of the principles without insisting they be latched onto any religious sect and/or God-

Atheists very well could be God's most faithful defenders, if God is just those principles personified through our actions in life, love, work, play and politics.

Ron Paul doesn't judge atheists (or anyone) - he knows it's not his job.

And when God, if he is just the principles, judges atheists, they won't be going to hell - as they did believe and have faith in him, as the principles.



~ Former Atheist, Former Agnostic, Current God-as-the-principles believer/thinker who was an agnostic when casting the vote for Ron Paul in the primary.

[allyinoh]

I am an atheist and while I personally feel abortion is wrong, I am pro-choice.



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I'm not trying to hijack the thread but this doesn't make any sense... Plus it reminds me of what Rudy Guiliani said. He personally felt abortion was wrong, but he was pro-choice.

There's no blurry line, you're either pro-life or pro-choice. If you feel that it's okay for someone to have an abortion, then you personally feel it's okay. If you personally felt it was wrong then you wouldn't support it at all.

I am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. I've been that way since I was old enough to understand what a baby was and what abortion was.

But anyway, I just had to comment on this statement here but not trying to hi jack the thread. Sorry.

[allyinoh]

I hope you're not saying that the only reason you believe in our cause is because, otherwise, if you didn't have some intergalactic fairy monster in the sky dictating our every lives, you'd be just like the other neo-cons. I'm not entirely sure how principled that would make you.

What exactly do you mean here? That people who believe in God (as in God of the Bible) are neo-cons and unprincipled?

That's a really bold statement to make, and completely unfounded.

[ARealConservative]

I'm not trying to hijack the thread but this doesn't make any sense... Plus it reminds me of what Rudy Guiliani said. He personally felt abortion was wrong, but he was pro-choice.

There's no blurry line, you're either pro-life or pro-choice. If you feel that it's okay for someone to have an abortion, then you personally feel it's okay. If you personally felt it was wrong then you wouldn't support it at all.

I am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. I've been that way since I was old enough to understand what a baby was and what abortion was.

But anyway, I just had to comment on this statement here but not trying to hi jack the thread. Sorry.


The question is at what level of intervention do you support?

I'm pro-life (I hate these terms BTW), but I would not sanction an invasion of Mexico and force them to live by my views. In the same vein, I will not interfere with the governments of another state either. If possible, I wouldn't even have this decided at a state level - county sounds about right to me.

In the end, I will let other people decide for themselves - so let's call it pro-choice.

[G-Wohl]

What exactly do you mean here? That people who believe in God (as in God of the Bible) are neo-cons and unprincipled?

That's a really bold statement to make, and completely unfounded.

Absolutely not. The particular person I quoted, whom you so preposterously forgot to quote here, made a statement that, to me, said if there was no God, he would be fine with the NWO and the neo-con agenda. I thought THAT was unprincipled. Don't you?


I'm not trying to hijack the thread but this doesn't make any sense... Plus it reminds me of what Rudy Guiliani said. He personally felt abortion was wrong, but he was pro-choice.

There's no blurry line, you're either pro-life or pro-choice. If you feel that it's okay for someone to have an abortion, then you personally feel it's okay. If you personally felt it was wrong then you wouldn't support it at all.

I am 100% pro-life, no exceptions. I've been that way since I was old enough to understand what a baby was and what abortion was.

But anyway, I just had to comment on this statement here but not trying to hi jack the thread. Sorry.

This is absolutely incorrect. As Ron Paul has shown time and time again, one's personal beliefs should NEVER get in the way of one's ability to make sound political decisions. Being pro-choice could simply be believing in the idea that every state should have a choice as to whether or not it would like to ratify a ban on abortion. This could be even more specific to mean that this choice is given to the individual. Regardless, being pro-choice simply implies being open-minded to other peoples' opinions, and respecting them without the absurd notion that one's personal view on any matter (abortion, drug use, etc.) should override somebody else's freedom of choice.

The way you say it, it's as if you think there are only two kinds of people out there: those that think nobody should get abortions, or those that think EVERYBODY should get abortions.

I'm a Libertarian; I'm pro-choice about EVERYTHING. If you're not infringing on somebody's rights by doing something, you should be able to do it. I don't care what my personal viewpoints on abortion, drugs, stem cell research, etc. are, because they are entirely irrelevant to the conversation. The fact is that I don't like the idea of abortion one bit, but that doesn't make it illegal or immoral for EVERYBODY. I respect the freedom of choice one has to exercise if they make the difficult, tough, and painful decision to get an abortion. You should too.

[RevolutionSD]

Atheists are suspicious of government and "higher authority." Is it any surprise that Ron cleans up with atheists? Half the regular members of this message board are atheists, which is hugely disproportionate to the general population.

It may be disproportionate, but atheists likely make up a far greater percentage of the population than our msm or gov't would have you believe.

[Eric21ND]

Not surprising. Atheists value intelligence. Ron Paul is the most intelligent person running for President, nuff said.

[DriftWood]

Yeah, I'm one of those.. but I'm kind of surprised.. there seems to be lots of em here.. I wonder what the demographics of Ron Paul supporters are. (I know it should not matter, we are all individuals, but still..)

Cheers

[sophocles07]

What exactly do you mean here? That people who believe in God (as in God of the Bible) are neo-cons and unprincipled?

That's a really bold statement to make, and completely unfounded.
__________________________________________________ ________________________________

You suck. You know that's not what he meant.

[rathskeller]

I hope you're not saying that the only reason you believe in our cause is because, otherwise, if you didn't have some intergalactic fairy monster in the sky dictating our every lives, you'd be just like the other neo-cons. I'm not entirely sure how principled that would make you.


I hope you realize how stupid you sound when you act all smarmy and superior to people who beleive in god. Seriously.

You are not superiror to anyone on this planet. And your belief of lack thereof in a higher being has nothing to do with it. The fatc that you are a colossal prick is why you are inferiror to every single person on this planet. You are a worthless nobody who will never influence others. HJust realize that until the day you die a lonely, lonely death.

[Sandra]

I hope you realize how stupid you sound when you act all smarmy and superior to people who beleive in god. Seriously.

You are not superiror to anyone on this planet. And your belief of lack thereof in a higher being has nothing to do with it. The fatc that you are a colossal prick is why you are inferiror to every single person on this planet. You are a worthless nobody who will never influence others. HJust realize that until the day you die a lonely, lonely death.

Ratskeller is from the McCain camp. He's just a troll, check out his past posts.

[ultimaonliner]

Ratskeller is from the McCain camp. He's just a troll, check out his past posts.

We have to ignore Rathskeller as we do all other trolls.

[ClayTrainor]

Ratskeller is from the McCain camp. He's just a troll, check out his past posts.

lmao, i love how trolls waste their time here. There's so many of 'em anymore.

their as easy to spot as the sun, it's almost kinda cute now, hahaha.