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PauliticsPolitics
02-05-2008, 01:12 PM
title says it.

after the second round of the convention, Huck won.

slantedview
02-05-2008, 01:13 PM
he should send a thank you letter to the ron paul folks for this win.

sharedvoice
02-05-2008, 01:14 PM
No, I don't think so. Where are your sources? Huckleberry did not win WV.

ProBlue33
02-05-2008, 01:15 PM
Everybody is saying this is going to be easy for McCain this shows it won't be, he got wasted in this state.

Mike - 524
John - 11
Mitt - 479

Cleaner44
02-05-2008, 01:16 PM
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#WV

West Virginia

Updated 1 minute ago
100% reporting

Huckabee 567 52% 0
Romney 521 47% 0
McCain 12 1% 0
Giuliani 0 0% 0
Paul 0 0% 0

jebba
02-05-2008, 01:16 PM
Its streaming here:
mms://a607.l2156158271.c21561.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/607/21561/v0001/reflector:58271

Huckabee appears to have won in the second round of voting. What he won, i have no idea, but he appears to have gotten over 50%.

wfd40
02-05-2008, 01:19 PM
Everybody is saying this is going to be easy for McCain this shows it won't be, he got wasted in this state.

hey dumb dumb.. this state shouldve gone to MITT.. McCain and huckster are teaming up .. take the blinders off

This is not good for us

frankdogg
02-05-2008, 01:19 PM
They are still deciding if it is close enough to go to Round 3 with Huckabee v. Romney, or if he has enough of the vote to call it on this round...

PauliticsPolitics
02-05-2008, 01:19 PM
Its streaming here:
mms://a607.l2156158271.c21561.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/607/21561/v0001/reflector:58271

Huckabee appears to have won in the second round of voting. What he won, i have no idea, but he appears to have gotten over 50%.

he wins most the state delegates. there are 9 more up for grabs in a primary later in May i think.

InLoveWithRon
02-05-2008, 01:19 PM
No, I don't think so. Where are your sources? Huckleberry did not win WV.

Yes he did.. I just saw the WV caucus live via the WV board. They had a link there to see it live

I saw the counting myself. Huck won

ProfNo
02-05-2008, 01:20 PM
Just announced that he won on MSNBC

tropicangela
02-05-2008, 01:20 PM
http://www.wsaz.com/political/misc/15267036.html

# He told wsazs amanda barren that he was heading home to arkansas to vote 4 minutes ago
# Huckabee is not here to accept 5 minutes ago
# They will tally the votes and hucks people will speak 7 minutes ago
# Mccain is definitely out now 9 minutes ago
# Supporters say they did the math and huck will win wv 15 minutes ago
# Romney takes kanawha 20 minutes ago
# Through 10 counties it is obvious mccain is out after this round 21 minutes ago
# Huck gets cabell 24 minutes ago
# Boone goes huck 25 minutes ago
# 2nd round now 25 minutes ago
# The strategy is this: mccain helps huckabee win and stops romney from getting an early win on super tuesday 27 minutes ago
# Those folks hid the signs when we tried to get video 36 minutes ago
# Mccain staff members have signs telling their delegates to vote Huckabee now 37 minutes ago
# We are back from lunch and ready to go 40 minutes ago
# Paul is eliminated as the lowest vote getter about an hour ago

Kalash
02-05-2008, 01:20 PM
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/west_virginia_intrigue.php

Yeah - McCain pulled that one from Romney on purpose.

And the Paul people helped him out.


West Virginia Intrigue

05 Feb 2008 01:42 pm

After the first round of balloting in West Virginia, Mitt Romney was solidly in the lead with 41% of the votes, followed by Mike Huckabee with 33% and John McCain with 16%.

Since 50% is needed to win all 18 delegates, a second balloting is underway.

But sources say that representatives for John McCain called many of his reps in WV and asked them to vote for Huckabee...in order to thwart Romney on the second ballot.

Join The Paul Side
02-05-2008, 01:21 PM
Is this good for us or bad for us? And will this keep Huck from dropping out? :confused:

jaumen
02-05-2008, 01:21 PM
hey dumb dumb.. this state shouldve gone to MITT.. McCain and huckster are teaming up .. take the blinders off

This is not good for us

I fail to see how Romney winning in WV would have been any better.

Redcard
02-05-2008, 01:22 PM
Now WV's remaining 9 delegates go to the primary winner by district.

wfd40
02-05-2008, 01:22 PM
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/west_virginia_intrigue.php

Yeah - McCain pulled that one from Romney on purpose.

And the Paul people helped him out.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE GUIDANCE FROM HQ?? Should the votes go to Romney or Huckabee in these sorts of situations??? God damn it

Redcard
02-05-2008, 01:23 PM
I fail to see how Romney winning in WV would have been any better.

Because McCain is approaching this like a two horse race.

Agora
02-05-2008, 01:25 PM
hey dumb dumb.. this state shouldve gone to MITT.. McCain and huckster are teaming up .. take the blinders off

This is not good for us

they want so badly Ron Paul out .

no.

JulioForPaul
02-05-2008, 01:25 PM
If I was a Paul delegate I would have voted for anybody but Romney as well. Good for them.

Phantom
02-05-2008, 01:25 PM
It looks like Huckabee won with more than 51% of the vote.

gaazn
02-05-2008, 01:30 PM
A vote for McCain/Huckabee can never be good.

Ron Paul Fan
02-05-2008, 01:32 PM
Paul delegates were eliminated in the 1st round.

slacker921
02-05-2008, 01:33 PM
.. and when Huck drops out to be McCains VP the delegates he won will mosey on over to McCain. How nice.

We're screwed... it's time for a 3rd party run with new campaign managers who know how to advertise on TV on a national scale. We've got the signs, we've got the web sites, we've got loads of TV ads already, we've got 17,000 precinct leaders, etc.. etc... time to get busy.

Ron Paul Fan
02-05-2008, 01:35 PM
My friends, this is how a brokered convention would work and this is why all of you who think Paul can win one are delusional. Deals will be made, delegates will shift candidates, and they won't go in Ron Paul's favor.

tropicangela
02-05-2008, 01:36 PM
"Michael wooten just confirmed with ron pauls people that paul will get three national delegates from huckabee in exchange for throwing his wv support to"

# Romneys people want a roll call vote now 5 minutes ago
# huck in this 2nd round 9 minutes ago
# Michael wooten just confirmed with ron pauls people that paul will get three national delegates from huckabee in exchange for throwing h ... 9 minutes ago
# He told wsazs amanda barren that he was heading home to arkansas to vote 21 minutes ago

http://www.wsaz.com/political/misc/15267036.html

gaazn
02-05-2008, 01:37 PM
If there's a brokered convention, McCain/Huckabee has to be considered to be 1 candidate because they will join together in the end. So for there to be a brokered convention, Romney has to do well and RP has to do well. Therefore, it would have been better for Romney to win West Virginia than Huckabee.

Redcard
02-05-2008, 01:43 PM
If there's a brokered convention, McCain/Huckabee has to be considered to be 1 candidate because they will join together in the end. So for there to be a brokered convention, Romney has to do well and RP has to do well. Therefore, it would have been better for Romney to win West Virginia than Huckabee.

No, no no

Stop being so.. one sided.

This is about WV. Huck will probably give McCain 4 delegates or more for this defection. The whole point is that deals were made and we didn't get involved in them. Brokered conventions will require us to get involved with this.

See, McCain's camp saw the writing on the wall, and swung a deal where McCain's closest competitor got NOTHING and McCain will get something.

I mean, think about it. If Huck's giving us three for defecting to him, how many do you think McCain got out of him?

This type of stuff doesn't mean McCain loves Huck.. or that Huck will be McCain's VP.. or that it will even be repeated again. It just means they made a deal.

Eponym_mi
02-05-2008, 01:46 PM
In the 2nd round...

It looks like 164 of 176 McCain supporters went for Huckabee and 28 of 118 Ron Paul supporters went for Huckabee.

It also looks like 57 Ron Paul supporters went for Romney and another 33 Ron Paul supporters walked out.

I would've walked or gone with Romney, but this is probably the best outcome other than a win.

PaultheSaint
02-05-2008, 01:48 PM
Shit is confusing.

NinjaPirate
02-05-2008, 01:51 PM
Shit is confusing.

Ditto.

RWill
02-05-2008, 01:53 PM
"... just confirmed ... paul will get three national delegates from huckabee in exchange for throwing his wv support ..."


3 more is better than 0!

Eponym_mi
02-05-2008, 01:53 PM
Shit is confusing.

Welcome to politics.:D

Redcard
02-05-2008, 01:54 PM
If we Kingmade Romney and not Huck, we would have gotten handed more than 3.

literatim
02-05-2008, 01:55 PM
If we Kingmade Romney and not Huck, we would have gotten handed more than 3.

How do you know that?

Mortikhi
02-05-2008, 01:55 PM
I'm failing to see how this is good for us.

So McCain didn't win. Neither did we.

literatim
02-05-2008, 01:56 PM
I'm failing to see how this is good for us.

So McCain didn't win. Neither did we.

We took 3 national delegates. Only Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul got any delegates from WV. This also sets up a brokered convention by keeping delegates away from Romney and McCain.

Redcard
02-05-2008, 01:57 PM
How do you know that?

Well, you don't. But it's strategy.

It's likely McCain is getting a cut for the kingmaking here from Huck, just like we did. If we'd stayed around and KingMade Mitt, we likely could have done it alone.. and then, we would have gotten shared more delegates.

Geeze, you guys expect to win a brokered convention? What this is is NOTHING compared to a brokered convention.

TurtleBurger
02-05-2008, 01:57 PM
If we Kingmade Romney and not Huck, we would have gotten handed more than 3.

I doubt it. If Romney offered more than 3 our people would have taken his offer.

GoDrNo
02-05-2008, 01:58 PM
We took 3 national delegates. Only Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul got any delegates from WV. This also sets up a brokered convention by keeping delegates away from Romney and McCain.

+1776

Redcard
02-05-2008, 01:58 PM
I doubt it. If Romney offered more than 3 our people would have taken his offer.


Well, about a third of our people walked out.. and some of them went with Romney. It was pretty disorganized. My theory would have required us to stay and been more fluid.

literatim
02-05-2008, 02:00 PM
Well, about a third of our people walked out.. and some of them went with Romney. It was pretty disorganized. My theory would have required us to stay and been more fluid.

Theory? Quit stating things as fact.

tropicangela
02-05-2008, 02:01 PM
We took 3 national delegates. Only Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul got any delegates from WV. This also sets up a brokered convention by keeping delegates away from Romney and McCain.

Huck has a soft spot for Paul after the CNN Reagan debate. Hope he stiffed McCain out of delegates. :)

Redcard
02-05-2008, 02:02 PM
Theory? Quit stating things as fact.

Uh, yeah. Theory. We likely don't know or won't know any pledged deals until the convention. If Huck somehow comes 3 shy of getting the nomination, WV will not give us three delegates.

All we know for CERTAIN.. . is that Huckleberry Hound has won 18 delegates from WV.

How it gets divided up, well, we'll see that at the role call. I suspect if Huck's out of the fight by then, then McCain gets a gift for his people defecting. If he's tightly in the fight, nobody gets anything but Huck.

wrinklepup
02-05-2008, 02:05 PM
and McCain got all the Credit for Huckleberry's win...true story, it was on the MSM!

JMann
02-05-2008, 02:06 PM
Shit is confusing.

Yes and it is clear Ron Paul never had a chance. The others would of teamed up on Paul to prevent a win regardless.

Sarge
02-05-2008, 02:24 PM
I am waiting until I hear from WV on what happened.

HUCK is NOT going to WIN the WEST! We have a better chance of getting his voters, then McCain does.

If we did indeed, get three national delegates out of a deal, I am happy. I don't want any of the other three as President.

I doubt we would get 3 delegates if our block of delegates did not all vote for Huck. I could be wrong, but I would suspect that would be the required deal to give up national delegates.

eok321
02-05-2008, 03:43 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

February 5, 2008

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In today’s West Virginia Republican State Convention, Republican candidate Ron Paul’s campaign secured three of the 18 national delegates up for grabs.

“Our goal is to secure as many delegates to the national GOP convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul as possible,” said Ron Paul 2008 campaign manager Lew Moore. “Securing three delegates in West Virginia is an important step in that direction. We plan on locking up more delegates before the day ends.”

In an agreement first reported by West Virginia television station WSAZ, the three Ron Paul delegates were secured through an agreement with the Mike Huckabee campaign.

Ron Paul delegates to the state convention swung their support to Huckabee – putting Huckabee over the top – after Congressman Paul was eliminated in the first round of voting. With three national delegates, Ron Paul secured 20 percent of the 18 delegates that were decided at the State Convention.