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newnews
02-04-2008, 04:52 PM
This is not a joke! You want to get some independent voters? THIS neds to be addressed by all people who care about our world and the future. I'm sure the mods will move it, let it be on their conscience.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0%2C23599%2C23156399-2%2C00.html?from=mostpop


IT has been described as the world's largest rubbish dump, or the Pacific plastic soup, and it is starting to alarm scientists.

It is a vast area of plastic debris and other flotsam drifting in the northern Pacific Ocean, held there by swirling ocean currents.

Discovered in 1997 by American sailor Charles Moore, what is also called the great Pacific garbage patch is now alarming some with its ever-growing size and possible impact on human health.

The "patch" is in fact two massive, linked areas of circulating rubbish, says Dr Marcus Eriksen, research director of the US-based Algalita Marine Research Foundation, founded by Moore.

Although the boundaries change, it stretches from about 500 nautical miles off the coast of California, across the northern Pacific to near the coast of Japan.

The islands of Hawaii are placed almost in the middle, so piles of plastic regularly wash up on some beaches there.

"The original idea that people had was that it was an island of plastic garbage that you could almost walk on. It is not quite like that. It is almost like a plastic soup," Dr Eriksen says.

"It is endless for an area that is maybe twice the size as continental United States," he says.

The concentration of floating plastic debris just beneath the ocean's surface is the product of underwater currents, which conspire to bring together all the junk that accumulates in the Pacific Ocean.

Moore, an oceanographer who has made the study of the patch his full-time occupation, believes there is about 100 million tonnes of plastic circulating in the northern Pacific - or about 2.5 per cent of all plastic items made since 1950.

About 20 per cent of the junk is thought to come from marine craft, while the rest originates from countries around the Pacific like Mexico and China.

Australia plays its part too, he says.

The waste forms in what are called tropical gyres - areas where the oceans slowly circulate due to extreme high pressure systems and where there is little wind.

The garbage in the patch circulates around the North Pacific Gyre, the world's largest.

A lack of big fish and light winds mean it's an area of the Pacific less travelled by fishing boats and yachts.

Moore says he discovered the floating mass of rubbish by chance, after steering his catamaran into the gyre while returning home from a yacht race.

Historically, flotsam in the gyres has biodegraded. But modern plastics do not break down like other oceanic debris, meaning objects half a century old have been found in the North Pacific Gyre.

Instead the plastic slowly photodegrades, becoming brittle and disintegrating into smaller and smaller pieces which enter the food chain and end up in the stomachs of birds and other animals.

Because the plastic is translucent and lies just beneath the surface, it is apparently undetectable by satellite photos.

"It is not like going to a parking lot after a rugby match. It is not like a landfill," he says.

"The material is breaking down continually. It is photodegrading all the time. It is what I call a kaleidoscope or an alphabet soup. You won't see it from a satellite shot of the ocean. You only see it from the bows of ships," he says.

If the waste is to be controlled people must stop using unnecessary disposable plastics, otherwise it is set to double in size during the next 10 years, Moore warns.

Dr Eriksen said the small plastic particles acted like a sponge to trap many dangerous man-made chemicals that found their way into the ocean, like hydrocarbons and DDT.

"What goes into the ocean goes into these animals and onto your dinner plate, It is that simple," Dr Eriksen said.

Larger pieces of plastic are also a threat to birds, which mistake them for food.

Dr Eriksen said he has found syringes, cigarette lighters and tooth brushes from the patch inside sea bird carcases.

Professor David Karl, an oceanographer from the University of Hawaii, said the garbage patch represented a new habitat, and more studies were needed to find out what impact it was having on the ocean's eco-system.

hayeksrevenge
02-04-2008, 04:55 PM
As long as you don't try to tell me the garbage is there because of global warming...

Joe3113
02-04-2008, 04:58 PM
People are disgusting. Sometimes I like the idea of eliminating 80% of the population.

Fields
02-04-2008, 05:00 PM
As long as you don't try to tell me the garbage is there because of global warming...

hahahahah +!

born2drv
02-04-2008, 05:00 PM
People are disgusting. Sometimes I like the idea of eliminating 80% of the population.

This will be a reality sooner then you think. This planet can only sustain so many people. I expect to see some ugly wars by the end of my lifetime. I hope everyone here owns precious metals.

ItsTime
02-04-2008, 05:01 PM
are there pictures from space? there has to be...

hayeksrevenge
02-04-2008, 05:02 PM
People are disgusting. Sometimes I like the idea of eliminating 80% of the population.

I know a lot of democrats who feel that way.

KevinR
02-04-2008, 05:02 PM
I wish there was a map with a big circle drawn on it :[

Mystile
02-04-2008, 05:06 PM
it's not nearly as big as they make it out to be.

fireworks_god
02-04-2008, 05:09 PM
are there pictures from space? there has to be...

There doesn't have to be - the article itself states that it is translucent and lies just beneath the surface, therefore undetected by satellites. ;)

Mystile
02-04-2008, 05:12 PM
I wish there was a map with a big circle drawn on it :[

http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Ocean/Moore-Trashed-PacificNov03b.GIF

Neomatrix
02-04-2008, 05:13 PM
youtube or it didn't happen:D

spunkel
02-04-2008, 05:18 PM
As long as you don't try to tell me the garbage is there because of global warming...

no.... it's probably the solar activity that created that pile of rubbish

JK/SEA
02-04-2008, 05:18 PM
Hmmm...garbage accumulating in one area?...should be easy enough to clean up...

Give GREENPEACE something to do.

jawrightbiz
02-04-2008, 05:19 PM
Mystile,
At the thought of telling you something nasty I will just tell you to try and keep a more open mind... please?

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2007/12/are-there-reall.html

JK/SEA
02-04-2008, 05:41 PM
Another thought..we have had tsunami's that sweep LARGE areas clean, like villages and towns, not to mention river flooding world wide that washes everything and anything out to sea, this gargae collection in the ocean doesn't surprise me.

The article states its impossible to clean up?...why?...

My Dad used to tell me..'can't, never did anything'. Meaning, its a lame excuse, for anything.

LibertyEagle
02-04-2008, 05:51 PM
Sometimes I like the idea of eliminating 80% of the population.

That statement is disgusting! You do realize, don't you, that the campaign you are involved in is fighting AGAINST those self-important AHOLES who want to do this. Go read some UN docs. Your eyes will pop out. Maybe start with the UN's plan for Sustainable Development. (Agenda 21)