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Canadiandude
02-04-2008, 12:37 PM
Have any of you read Plato's "Allegory of the Cave?" It speaks about illusions, and how difficult it is for people to come out of the darkness and into the light, how difficult it is to suddenly be jarred from their current system of beliefs they have grown comfortable with.

http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/allegory.html

Just a portion of it, thought it was inspiring. He wrote this thousands of years ago. Humanity never changes.

We need to SHOW the people the light, are most of them even aware of most of the scandals/world government?

Paulitical Correctness
02-04-2008, 12:38 PM
Took Intro to Philosophy last semester.

Very interesting, indeed.

N13
02-04-2008, 12:46 PM
The Ron Paul movement is removing the shackles.

The shadows on the wall is MSM.

purplechoe
01-12-2009, 02:35 AM
I just found this video:

Plato’s Allegory of the Cave
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=402

Conza88
01-12-2009, 03:02 AM
Have any of you read Plato's "Allegory of the Cave?" It speaks about illusions, and how difficult it is for people to come out of the darkness and into the light, how difficult it is to suddenly be jarred from their current system of beliefs they have grown comfortable with.

http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/allegory.html

Just a portion of it, thought it was inspiring. He wrote this thousands of years ago. Humanity never changes.

We need to SHOW the people the light, are most of them even aware of most of the scandals/world government?

Lol.... Plato is the big boy of Hegel, Marx, Engels etc. "The Republic" is pure social engineer / central planning.

It is the very first "important" big I ever read.. followed by Aristotle's Ethics. The Republic made sense to me and it is what set me on the course of, "if only there was a law!" "or if I could be in power!", this continued on with Chomsky - who I realised was telling the truth about the US foriegn policy..

I had never heard the word of Liberty. All changed when someone spammed "Ron Paul is the last hope for America" on a chomsky video.

All I had to do was be shown it. RP getting attacked for his foriegn policy triggered it for me, and then I slowly began to wonder - what else was he right about?

Pretty much everything. ;)

Re-reading the Republic... I may try it. Being fairly knowledgeable in Austrian Economics now... it should make for some fun reading.. see how much of a socialist he really was a 2nd time round.

Pericles
01-12-2009, 10:12 AM
Plato wasn't a socialist. One of the points of The Republic is that you can't put idiots in charge pf the government and expect something good to happen. A direct democracy always votes for policies that result in its destruction.

The idea of Philosopher Kings is not socialism, but to protect the freedoms of the citizens by placing those who are motivated by the good rather than by power in charge with the task of protecting freedom.

The central problem is the proper definition of "good" - socialists use power toward their definition of the good, rather than the true good of the Republic.

nullvalu
01-12-2009, 10:14 AM
Read my signature ;)

wizardwatson
01-12-2009, 10:23 AM
I always get sidetracked into the pedophile issue whenever I think about these "great minds".

roho76
01-12-2009, 11:09 AM
I created a digg for it:

Pick your poison.

http://digg.com/political_opinion/Plato_s_Allegory_of_the_Cave_Video

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Conza88
01-12-2009, 05:52 PM
Plato - David Gordon (http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/Gordon2007/Gordon1.mp3)
The History of Political Philosophy: From Plato to Rothbard

Lovecraftian4Paul
01-12-2009, 06:32 PM
I love this old allegory. Truly timeless. It applies today more than ever, as it probably has in previous attempts to erode tyrannies of the state and mind.

purplechoe
01-13-2009, 03:12 PM
Plato - David Gordon (http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/Gordon2007/Gordon1.mp3)
The History of Political Philosophy: From Plato to Rothbard


Thanks for that link, listening now.

purplechoe
12-29-2009, 03:29 PM
YouTube - The Allegory of the Cave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ei7LqbYb8M)