Here's an area we need improvement in (Male / Female support ratio)

[RP08]

I don't believe I've seen this discussed here already.

The percentage of male contributors to Ron Paul is waaaay higher than the percentage of female contributors.

Is there something we can do to impress the ladies?

Source: HERE (http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordemCID_compare.asp?cycle=2008&cand1=N00005906&cand2=N00000019)

Ron Paul
Percent of Funds........... Number of Contributors............Total Amount
Female 18.3% ...............308 ..........................................$291,472
Male 81.7% ...................1782 ........................................$1,304,743

[nullvalu]

i wonder how this pans out across other candidates..? i would venture to guess that men are more interested in politics than women across the board.

[amberj]

I'll be donating soon!

[winston84]

I think you can attribute that to the ratio of Ron Paul supporters itself, take my MeetUp group for instance. Its about an 80% male and 20% female ratio.

[RP08]

i wonder how this pans out across other candidates..? i would venture to guess that men are more interested in politics than women across the board.

If you look at contenders like Hilary and Barak, they're more like 60/40. Its much closer to an even split.

[ChairmanMao]

I would say this is because, no offense to any of the ladies out there, women are more likely to give up freedom for security then men.

[Santana28]

I'm a female for Ron Paul, dangit! And i've given $75 of my measely, measly pay. I've got another $50 coming and i hope to make it out to Ames this weekend to contribute some of my time and labor.

This is true... we definitely need to get more gals involved. Unfortunately, and i apologize if this sounds sexist - but it seems like most of the girls i know could care less about politics, and more about their nails. Sorry...

The one flip side to this conversation is that i've found that its been the WOMEN converting the MEN at our church... the older church ladies with more time on their hands seem to do the political research in the household...lol.

This is where chain letters and viral email campaigns with videos would probably work best.

[DeadheadForPaul]

There are 2 reasons for this

1.) Women tend to vote Democrat more than Republican
2.) Dont take this as sexist, but women in general arent as political as men, so there will be more men early on in the race

[PatriotOne]

Anyone know the split on men vs. woman voters? Are men more likely to go to the polls than woman? If so, this can be an advantage.

[micahnelson]

My mom was sold on Ron Paul when she saw Carol Paul speaking. Carol Paul is the most genuine of the potential first ladies. She will help in the midwest a lot.

[JS4Pat]

I would say this is because, no offense to any of the ladies out there, women are more likely to give up freedom for security then men.
Very true - but it appears men are making gains in this area. :(

[Man from La Mancha]

I don't believe I've seen this discussed here already.

The percentage of male contributors to Ron Paul is waaaay higher than the percentage of female contributors.

Is there something we can do to impress the ladies?

Source: HERE (http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordemCID_compare.asp?cycle=2008&cand1=N00005906&cand2=N00000019)

Ron Paul
Percent of Funds........... Number of Contributors............Total Amount
Female 18.3% ...............308 ..........................................$291,472
Male 81.7% ...................1782 ........................................$1,304,743

Well that almost exactly matches this forums poll. 82.27% male 17.73% female

http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=5154&highlight=gender+poll

[sickmint79]

women like supporting another woman in general.
unthinking women like supporting someone cute.

[PatriotOne]

woman like supporting another woman in general.
unthinking women like supporting someone cute.

Men have themselves to blame for that. Since it's been men in power for so long AND they have screwed this country up so bad, alot of woman just have a general sense that any woman would be better than a man at this point. Too bad they are putting their trust in someone so undeserving and just another globalist.

[JaylieWoW]

Being female I will take a stab at this one.

My theory is that more women tend to react emotionally than intellectually. I'm not saying men are smarter than women, I'm just saying it's easier to pull their heart strings than it is to pull a man's.

However, that does not mean it is impossible to get more women to support Ron Paul. We just have to figure out how to do it emotionally AND intellectually.

[JS4Pat]

Being female I will take a stab at this one.

My theory is that more women tend to react emotionally than intellectually.
That is not a theory - That is a FACT. :D

[barronbhl]

There are 2 reasons for this

1.) Women tend to vote Democrat more than Republican


They were talking about this on Real Time with Bill Maher. The stats they brought up were ~56% of single women vote Democrat while ~70% of married women (with kids was brought up) vote Republican. Can't remember the exact numbers, but it was the show with Adriana Huffington and Frank Luntz.

[ChooseLiberty]

No offense, but DING DING DING.

The soccer mommies are why we are on the path to a police state. They want 100% safety from "terrists" for little Muffy and Buffy. Meanwhile Muffy and Buffy are drinking, addicted to prescriptions, etc. etc. etc. to escape.



I would say this is because, no offense to any of the ladies out there, women are more likely to give up freedom for security then men.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

In my case, my wife supports Ron Paul, but any funds sent to him is my doing and thus is recorded as "male". Plus men do tend to be more interested in ideas like Ron Paul's no matter how sexist it might sound. The statistics back it up. Single women vote overwhelming for the Dems and married women tend to vote Republican. If I explain what I think about it all the ladies will not like it so I should just keep my mouth shut. lol

[Jennifer Reynolds]

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[DeadheadForPaul]

Run commercials on the Lifetime Network? ;)

[Paulitician]

Well that almost exactly matches this forums poll. 82.27% male 17.73% female

http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=5154&highlight=gender+poll
Good point. I think it has a lot to do with being mostly Internet support. Hopefully we'll see that change with time.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

Now I'm not advocating any change in who can and can't vote by any means, however, when you look at when the government really started growing, it was after women had the right to vote. I'm not sure how direct a corralation there is, but I am sure there is some tie. I also think that married women are very influenced politically by their husbands and men tend to support individualism and want the government off their back and that is why the votes go they way they do.

My two cents again for whatever its not worth.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

If you want to catch the stay at home moms, advertise on TLC. They have all sorts of baby and women's stuff all day long. Drives me nuts but my wife loves it.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

Jen should be the expert here so I'll defer to whatever she has to say. Plus she helped me out with calling Iowans.

[Jennifer Reynolds]

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[ARealConservative]

This might be hot topics material but you can show a rise in the move towards socialism coincide with giving women the ability to vote.

[ChooseLiberty]

The rise of the nanny state.

It's unfortunate even libertarian forums are so PC you can't speak the truth.

Women => Blue pill

Men => Red pill

:D



This might be hot topics material but you can show a rise in the move towards socialism coincide with giving women the ability to vote.

[Eli]

so you're saying I need to go pick up chicks?

Well if it'll help ron paul :)

[RP08]

Why is this thread drifting toward a "hot topics" direction?

All Americans have the right to vote. That's a good thing! We're very blessed.

It is interesting how Papa Bear Paul isn't pulling a higher support rate from our better half. Some people posted some interesting observations.

Hilary and Barak are far closer to an even split at the moment. Perhaps we need to step up the effort in name recognition. Ron Paul, once given the chance, is very appealing to women in all walks of life... at least the ones I've had the pleasure to discuss Ron Paul with. Yes, there will be certain top issues (abortion, maybe most of all).

[foofighter20x]

i wonder how this pans out across other candidates..? i would venture to guess that men are more interested in politics than women across the board.

of course, the women'll say they are tending to the things we ignore in pursuing out interest and thus never have the time themselves. ;) :p

[SeanEdwards]

I told my Mom about Ron Paul, and her response was basically, "I mostly agree with him, except about a woman's right to choose".

So, I think his position on abortion might be a barrier to support among women who think they should have an inalienable right to kill their children. I think these folks are not really interested in protecting abortion rights in a Constitutional way either. They are quite content for the Supreme Court to usurp authority as long as that usurpation coincides with their beliefs.

I really wonder how they'd feel if the supreme court had ruled the other way and declared any abortion to be murder.

[ARealConservative]

Why is this thread drifting toward a "hot topics" direction?

All Americans have the right to vote. That's a good thing! We're very blessed.


"Our founders cherished liberty, not democracy". Ron Paul

Originally you had to be a property owner to vote. (property owners funded the government)

To this day you can't vote in most states if you are a felon.

The reasoning behind both are the same. We didn't want irresponsible voters.

Allowing everybody to vote isn't a good thing. For instance, 50% of us pay 96% of taxes. The other half that pay virtually nothing for federal government is irresponsible with their vote - it isn't good that they get an equal say in the election.

[maiki]

I'm hesitating to post this because I don't have hard statistics at hand.. but..

Yes, many women are pro-choice and will exclude candidates on that issue alone. But also, many women are pro-life and will exclude candidates on that issue alone. Both NARAL and National Right to Life have a majority of their constituents (over 60%) as female. There are also more women who are into mainstream religions which are pro-life (ex. Catholic membership is 60% female). It is an issue that concerns women, thus women are likely to be highly polarized on each side of the issue, moreso than men, who are likely to see it as a secondary issue on both sides.

And maybe it is the circles I hand out in, but most pro-lifers I know are women. Any random guy I ask is likely to be not very interested in the issue and just say he is pro-choice.

signed: pro-life girl

[monotony]

The two most obvious reasons I see are:

1) The majority of independent women are pro-choice. Women with families and religious women are mostly pro-life, and generally more conventional thinking. Women who are either coming from a pre-conventional perspective, or women that are coming from a post-conventional perspective are almost entirely pro-choice. Carol Gilligan's research bears this out.

2) From a psychological perspective, women usually think about "we" before they think about "I", where as men generally think about "I" before they think about "we". Ron Paul's message of "individual liberty" may not resonate quite as well with the "we" mentality, even though it is the most supportive of the "we" mentality. Although we all know that individual liberty is actually the best for everyone, if you don't really immerse yourself in everything Paul, it's hard for that part of the message to come through.

[Shatterhand]

I think this is a very interesting thread . . .

After everyone figures out 'why' then everyone needs to figure out 'how' to get more women into the Ron Paul Revolution.

I think one thing we can do is support the women who are being creative and really putting themselves out there for Ron Paul.

Kelly Halldorson found a creative way to help Ron Paul and get press attention.
LadyJade does a lot of creative videos that help Ron Paul.
The granny warriors are driving around and doing lots of great work.


And there are many brilliant blogs and essays by women promoting Ron Paul. We just need to keep up the creativity and keep the ideas flowing. I also think it would have helped if Justine had introduced the Ron Paul youtube videos instead of Jesse. But the campaign never bothers to listen to me anyway.

Also it's interesting to think about a Sarah Palin vp slot in regards to this thread. But first we need Dr. Paul to get the nomination. :(

So we need more women. :)

[Matt Collins]

I'm a 25 yr old single RP supporter. If there are any single female RP supporters in the Tennessee area hit me up! :D

http://myspace.com/sonicspike

[Jean]

I think there are plenty of women supporters! I think the women sent the checks and signed the mens names! Or the men hold the money and sign the checks? Just my guess. JeanH

[jj111]

Ron Paul women are like gold - hard to find, but very precious.

[Matt Collins]

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[Gee]

I told my Mom about Ron Paul, and her response was basically, "I mostly agree with him, except about a woman's right to choose".

So, I think his position on abortion might be a barrier to support among women who think they should have an inalienable right to kill their children. I think these folks are not really interested in protecting abortion rights in a Constitutional way either. They are quite content for the Supreme Court to usurp authority as long as that usurpation coincides with their beliefs.

I really wonder how they'd feel if the supreme court had ruled the other way and declared any abortion to be murder.
I don't really think it matters. Roe v. Wade isn't going to be going anywhere for a very long time. And if it is eventually repealed, each state will probably be more liberal and will legalize abortion anyways.

[LinuxUser269]

See the pro-life is because he is a doctor and he has taken an oath to protect life . but his stance on the issue is that the federal government should have nothing to do with this issue. Its a non issue as far as the fed should be concerned.
So when i talk to women about this i simply explain he has delivered 4000 baby's and has taken an oath to protect human life .but belives that the federal government should have nothing to do with this issue and should be handled at a local level .

Abortion has been around as long as if not longer than prostitution. If they make abortion illegal just means someones daughter will be in some dirty room getting the clothes hanger treatment . and might end up dead.

note :see lifetime for women

[LinuxUser269]

sarasota group boast 13 ladies 62 gents

[RP08]

sarasota group boast 13 ladies 62 gents


Wow... that, too, seems to be right along the 80/20 ratio of supporters both on this forum and by donation to date. Very interesting indeed.

Perhaps for some audiences we should ask... "If given the choice of any of the candidates, whom would you prefer babysitting your toddler for an afternoon?"

Personally, and it would surprise me if wifey feels differently, all of them with the one exception of Ron Paul wouldn't have my trust to truly take care of my innocent child. Even Kucinich, who comes across as a care bear, doesn't seem to have that 'something' that would leave me at peace. DEFINITELY not Hilary. She's toward the top of the "don't come near my kid" list, personally.

[jonahtrainer]

Men have themselves to blame for that. Since it's been men in power for so long AND they have screwed this country up so bad, alot of woman just have a general sense that any woman would be better than a man at this point. Too bad they are putting their trust in someone so undeserving and just another globalist.

Which Constitutional Amendment was ratified on August 18, 1920?

For those who do not get it this is a satrical joke.