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Jeremy
02-03-2008, 12:07 AM
EDIT: This was posted some time ago and has not been updated... but you get the point (just saying this since it was bumped to the front).

http://terbocongress.org/
http://lindagoldthorpe.com/Home.html
http://www.tedbrown.org/
http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/
http://www.mcduffieforcongress.com/
http://santoroforcongress.org/
http://www.votejasonthompson.us/
http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/
http://www.schansbergforcongress.com/index.html
http://www.joinsanders.com/
http://www.joearminioforcongress.org/home.html
http://www.richardmatthews.org/
http://www.panasuk08.com/
http://localpolitics.meetup.com/142/
http://peterjames08.com/
http://www.starkmanforcongress.com/
http://www.baileyforuscongress.com/
http://hargadonforuscongress.com/htdocs/modules/articles/article.php?id=1
http://jayroberts2008.com/
http://www.bryangreene08.com/index.html
http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/default.asp
http://www.senatorcarraro.com/index.php
http://www.davidrgrate2008.us/
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/
http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm
http://www.tomlingenfelter.com/
http://kevingeorgeforcongress.org/home.htm
http://www.jostforcongress.com/
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/
http://www.forward-usa.org/
http://hessforgovernor.com/
http://www.jimforsythe.com/

We weren't joking about a revolution.

EndTheFed
02-03-2008, 12:12 AM
WOW Great Post....

mokkan88
02-03-2008, 12:13 AM
+alot

Jeremy
02-03-2008, 12:14 AM
And more are added daily...

And some of us may someday doing the same :) (if not already)

kutibah
02-03-2008, 12:18 AM
Thanks for this! Let the revolution begin! (if not begun!)

pacelli
02-03-2008, 12:19 AM
Yes! And I'm voting for BJ Lawson in my district in NC. He's got Ron's endorsement.

faisal
02-03-2008, 12:21 AM
thank you soo much! Is that the final copy? Incredible.

ClayTrainor
02-03-2008, 12:22 AM
Your dam right we weren't joking!

Lets take America back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VIVA LA REVOLUTION :D

Great post man, very inspiring!

kutibah
02-03-2008, 12:22 AM
It would be nice to split these up by state so we know who to vote for! In fact, we should sticky this thread!

Richandler
02-03-2008, 12:22 AM
It would be where they are running without clicking on each one.

newmedia4ron
02-03-2008, 12:23 AM
We must stay connected. Please bookmark some of these links:
http://www.libertyforest.com
http://www.paulcongress.com/
http://www.rlc.org/
http://www.freeople.com/
http://www.ronpaulambassadors.com/
http://www.congressionalcoasttocoast.com/
http://libertyia.ning.com/
http://www.libertywarchest.com/
http://terbocongress.org/
http://lindagoldthorpe.com/Home.html
http://www.tedbrown.org/
http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/
http://www.mcduffieforcongress.com/
http://santoroforcongress.org/
http://www.votejasonthompson.us/
http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/
http://www.schansbergforcongress.com/index.html
http://www.joinsanders.com/
http://www.joearminioforcongress.org/home.html
http://www.richardmatthews.org/
http://www.panasuk08.com/
http://localpolitics.meetup.com/142/
http://peterjames08.com/
http://www.starkmanforcongress.com/
http://www.baileyforuscongress.com/
http://hargadonforuscongress.com/htdocs/modules/articles/article.php?id=1
http://jayroberts2008.com/
http://www.bryangreene08.com/index.html
http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/default.asp
http://www.senatorcarraro.com/index.php
http://www.davidrgrate2008.us/
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/
http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm
http://www.tomlingenfelter.com/
http://kevingeorgeforcongress.org/home.htm
http://www.jostforcongress.com/
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/
http://www.forward-usa.org/
http://www.jimforsythe.com/
http://hessforgovernor.com/
http://mercedforfreedom.com/index.html
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http://www.theadvocates.org/links.html
http://www.constitution.org/cs_organ.htm
http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/links.html
http://freedomkeys.com/morelinx.htm
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/links.php
http://www.libertarianism.com/links.htm
http://www.conservativeusa.org/ritelink.htm
http://www.freedom21.com/freedomlinks.asp
http://www.newswithviews.com/links/links.htm
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http://www.privacyrights.org/links.htm
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=230
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=82081
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=911065#post911065
http://ronpaulsacrossamerica.com/
http://libertycongress.org/
http://www.declarefreedom08.com/
http://www.libertysurge.org/
http://legislatorsagainstrealid.com/
http://runwithron.us/
http://www.bringthemhome08.com/
http://www.fightfirewithsnow.com/

Jeremy
02-03-2008, 12:23 AM
thank you soo much! Is that the final copy? Incredible.

As of this minute. There are a few without sites... but that's current as of now. More are added to the list

Anyway, this came from paulcongress.com. I haven't researched every single person, but it's looking great!

bucfish
02-03-2008, 12:23 AM
Nice post I like that

PepperdotNet
02-03-2008, 12:24 AM
http://www.daveryon.com/ - this guy (well i guess technically his wife) has a baby on the way, if it's a boy the name is "Ronald Paul Ryon"

Drknows
02-03-2008, 12:24 AM
posting for bookmark

virginiakid
02-03-2008, 12:27 AM
I've been wanting to run for a long time. Been juggling between state house or US Congress. I am actually leaning more toward state house because I think it will be a nice stepping stone for a US Congress run. The states need to be filled with patriots as well.

pacelli
02-03-2008, 12:30 AM
I've been wanting to run for a long time. Been juggling between state house or US Congress. I am actually leaning more toward state house because I think it will be a nice stepping stone for a US Congress run. The states need to be filled with patriots as well.

Absolutely. I believe there are 5 or 6 RP supporters running for congress in maryland.

virginiakid
02-03-2008, 12:33 AM
If you get enough people to run for office, odds are you are going to elect a few. And that is a good thing. We want nothing less than 100% success rate of our candidates getting into office. Understood?:)

Richandler
02-03-2008, 12:34 AM
I propose a money bomb day where we all decide one or two candidates to donate large sums too.

Jeremy
02-03-2008, 12:38 AM
I propose a money bomb day where we all decide one or two candidates to donate large sums too.

But that might not be fair =0

we should just donate to whoever's closest to us and spread out donations. we'd need more organization though

Richandler
02-03-2008, 12:40 AM
But that might not be fair =0

we should just donate to whoever's closest to us and spread out donations. we'd need more organization though

I didn't mean we as a collectivist idea. I meant we should each individually choose two candidates we want to donate to.

Jeremy
02-03-2008, 12:41 AM
I didn't mean we as a collectivist idea. I meant we should each individually choose two candidates we want to donate to.

Oh, ok

InLoveWithRon
02-03-2008, 12:43 AM
http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/
http://terbocongress.org/
http://lindagoldthorpe.com/Home.html
http://www.tedbrown.org/
http://www.mcduffieforcongress.com/
http://santoroforcongress.org/
http://www.votejasonthompson.us/
http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/
http://www.schansbergforcongress.com/index.html
http://www.joinsanders.com/
http://www.joearminioforcongress.org/home.html
http://www.richardmatthews.org/
http://www.panasuk08.com/
http://localpolitics.meetup.com/142/
http://peterjames08.com/
http://www.starkmanforcongress.com/
http://www.baileyforuscongress.com/
http://hargadonforuscongress.com/htdocs/modules/articles/article.php?id=1
http://jayroberts2008.com/
http://www.bryangreene08.com/index.html
http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/default.asp
http://www.senatorcarraro.com/index.php
http://www.davidrgrate2008.us/
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/
http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm
http://www.tomlingenfelter.com/
http://kevingeorgeforcongress.org/home.htm
http://www.jostforcongress.com/
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/
http://www.forward-usa.org/
http://hessforgovernor.com/
http://www.jimforsythe.com/

We weren't joking about a revolution.

wow. great stuff

kyleAF
02-03-2008, 12:45 AM
It would be nice to split these up by state so we know who to vote for! In fact, we should sticky this thread!

How about a new sub-forum for endorsed candidates??

This will be the next step, regardless of the outcome of the Presidency.

kutibah
02-03-2008, 12:48 AM
How about a new sub-forum for endorsed candidates??

This will be the next step, regardless of the outcome of the Presidency.

+1

newmedia4ron
02-03-2008, 12:54 AM
How about a new sub-forum for endorsed candidates??

This will be the next step, regardless of the outcome of the Presidency.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=230

vanadium
02-03-2008, 01:17 AM
Keep it going!!

Johncjackson
02-03-2008, 01:23 AM
The real question is ( and what will determine the outcome of the Revolution) what happens when most/all of these candidates lose badly in the primaries and/or the candidates everyone gets attached to get 2% of the vote. Do you go home devastated and dropout of the process, or keep going..

newmedia4ron
02-03-2008, 01:27 AM
The real question is ( and what will determine the outcome of the Revolution) what happens when most/all of these candidates lose badly in the primaries and/or the candidates everyone gets attached to get 2% of the vote. Do you go home devastated and dropout of the process, or keep going..

thats why we need to need to stay active within the party and promote our ideas through the internet and other traditional means

Bilgefisher
02-03-2008, 01:32 AM
The real question is ( and what will determine the outcome of the Revolution) what happens when most/all of these candidates lose badly in the primaries and/or the candidates everyone gets attached to get 2% of the vote. Do you go home devastated and dropout of the process, or keep going..

No offense, but that seems to be one of the most pessimistic threads Ive read on here in awhile. I sure hope it wasn't intended that way.

constitutional
02-03-2008, 01:37 AM
Just saw V for Vendetta and came to this thread.

Holy shit, I see the whole picture now!!! THIS IS THE REVOLUTION!!

JMO
02-03-2008, 01:38 AM
If for no other reason than his last name I would vote for a guy with the last name Terbolizard. That is a great last name.

JMO
02-03-2008, 01:39 AM
Just saw V for Vendetta and came to this thread.

Holy shit, I see the whole picture now!!! THIS IS THE REVOLUTION!!

1 of my 5 favorite all time movies, and I watched it before I ever heard of Ron Paul. I liked it because I felt the undertones reflected real life.
I will put in a plug for another awesome movie I seen recently. The Man From Earth. Watch that movie, I bet you watch it twice immediately.

kyleAF
02-03-2008, 02:06 AM
bump, and posted on facebook

sirachman
02-03-2008, 02:11 AM
Keep this going people, we are a true REVOLUTION and as soon as Ron Paul is elected we need to start helping him get RE-elected, and if he doesnt for some reason we need to start working to get him or someone else we all choose elected in 2013.

Joe3113
02-03-2008, 02:13 AM
Hey, I really do live in the land of Oz. :D

ddoggphx
02-03-2008, 02:29 AM
I would be running, but there are Republicans in my district already in office, on both the State and House level (and Shadegg is a good congressman).

I might look into School Superintendent or something, though, until a state house/senate seat comes available or something happens at the fed congressional level.

Edu
02-03-2008, 02:33 AM
This should be a 30 second spot on CNN or FOX, that should shut them up (or make them barf).

JoeyA
02-03-2008, 02:48 AM
I propose a money bomb day where we all decide one or two candidates to donate large sums too.

Absolutely,an awesome idea!Especially,for those who are already topped out with donations to Paul.

ForTheRevolution
02-03-2008, 03:09 AM
i hope that list includes future presidents :)

krott5333
02-03-2008, 03:38 AM
This is the most important thread I have seen so far on the forums.

We must stay active, and change the party and government from within.

In fact, I'm trying to convince the owner of our local HQ office to donate it fulltime to the cause of promoting libertarian-minded individuals and ideas across all party lines.

stevedasbach
02-03-2008, 03:59 AM
I didn't mean we as a collectivist idea. I meant we should each individually choose two candidates we want to donate to.

Check their FEC reports. Any serious candidate will be raising money locally in his/her district. Those will be the ones with the best shot at winning.

ST0PandL00K
02-03-2008, 04:00 AM
fantastic post!

Mark
02-03-2008, 04:08 AM
Yes! And I'm voting for BJ Lawson in my district in NC. He's got Ron's endorsement.

I'm not in his district, just next to it. The first time I wished I lived somewhere else in the Triangle.

dblee
02-03-2008, 06:00 AM
best thread of the day.

Jenna!
02-03-2008, 06:31 AM
this is the only way to topple big governemnt! this is probably scarier than Dr. Paul winning

ronpauleddy
02-03-2008, 06:57 AM
bump-sticky please!!

Azprint
02-03-2008, 07:18 AM
Ok, what this guy is doing on the list http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/ ?
He is a typical neo-con, he is pro Iraq War. Anyone can explain?

Azprint
02-03-2008, 07:43 AM
Ok, I have another problem with this guy http://www.starkmanforcongress.com

Read his positions on War on Terror and Trade w/ China, I do not find it consistent with Paulitics. Explain?

Azprint
02-03-2008, 07:50 AM
Ok this is just outrageous. http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/

Are you high people? He is no friend to us, the dude believes in Global Warming + Continuation of War in Iraq!!! How the fuck these guys got on the list???

Edit: He supports no child left behind!!!

boethius27
02-03-2008, 07:53 AM
digg it yo.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Filling_Congress_with_strict_Ron_Paul_constiutitio nalists

CelestialRender
02-03-2008, 07:55 AM
Sticky.

Azprint
02-03-2008, 08:00 AM
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/

Who the fuck made this list? This dude, while opposed war initially believes we should stay there now! It is inconsistent with Ron Paul! Hello, anyone here? And I only check foreign policy attitude, god knows how many should be filtered on other issues!

Azprint
02-03-2008, 08:20 AM
BUMP FOR REDOING THE LIST! There are at least 4 people, who do not belong to Revolution!

CareerTech1
02-03-2008, 02:10 PM
This is truly awesome.

Last night I had a dream that someday I'm going to retire from my business and run for congress.

Hmmmm...

thexjib
02-03-2008, 02:12 PM
http://terbocongress.org/
http://lindagoldthorpe.com/Home.html
http://www.tedbrown.org/
http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/
http://www.mcduffieforcongress.com/
http://santoroforcongress.org/
http://www.votejasonthompson.us/
http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/
http://www.schansbergforcongress.com/index.html
http://www.joinsanders.com/
http://www.joearminioforcongress.org/home.html
http://www.richardmatthews.org/
http://www.panasuk08.com/
http://localpolitics.meetup.com/142/
http://peterjames08.com/
http://www.starkmanforcongress.com/
http://www.baileyforuscongress.com/
http://hargadonforuscongress.com/htdocs/modules/articles/article.php?id=1
http://jayroberts2008.com/
http://www.bryangreene08.com/index.html
http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/default.asp
http://www.senatorcarraro.com/index.php
http://www.davidrgrate2008.us/
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/
http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm
http://www.tomlingenfelter.com/
http://kevingeorgeforcongress.org/home.htm
http://www.jostforcongress.com/
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/
http://www.forward-usa.org/
http://hessforgovernor.com/
http://www.jimforsythe.com/

We weren't joking about a revolution.

+ 100 000 000

we have allready won!

Jeremy
02-03-2008, 05:52 PM
bump

Drknows
02-03-2008, 05:54 PM
BUMP FOR REDOING THE LIST! There are at least 4 people, who do not belong to Revolution!

whos the four people on the list?

FireofLiberty
02-03-2008, 05:55 PM
http://terbocongress.org/
http://lindagoldthorpe.com/Home.html
http://www.tedbrown.org/
http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/
http://www.mcduffieforcongress.com/
http://santoroforcongress.org/
http://www.votejasonthompson.us/
http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/
http://www.schansbergforcongress.com/index.html
http://www.joinsanders.com/
http://www.joearminioforcongress.org/home.html
http://www.richardmatthews.org/
http://www.panasuk08.com/
http://localpolitics.meetup.com/142/
http://peterjames08.com/
http://www.starkmanforcongress.com/
http://www.baileyforuscongress.com/
http://hargadonforuscongress.com/htdocs/modules/articles/article.php?id=1
http://jayroberts2008.com/
http://www.bryangreene08.com/index.html
http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/default.asp
http://www.senatorcarraro.com/index.php
http://www.davidrgrate2008.us/
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/
http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm
http://www.tomlingenfelter.com/
http://kevingeorgeforcongress.org/home.htm
http://www.jostforcongress.com/
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/
http://www.forward-usa.org/
http://hessforgovernor.com/
http://www.jimforsythe.com/

We weren't joking about a revolution.

+100

I completely agree with this sentiment! This rEVOLution is SO MUCH BIGGER than Ron Paul.

FireofLiberty
02-03-2008, 05:57 PM
By the way, everyone should donate to BJ Lawson ;)

https://www.lawsonforcongress.com/donate/

Jeremy
02-03-2008, 06:00 PM
Ya, supposedly there's 4 people on the list that shouldn't be... blame paulcongress.com, lol

But no one has started organizing these things properly, that's why (and paulcongress.com isn't that great)

Johncjackson
02-03-2008, 07:07 PM
No offense, but that seems to be one of the most pessimistic threads Ive read on here in awhile. I sure hope it wasn't intended that way.

No it wasn't. Let me explain. Like many here, I have many elections of experiences supporting and voting for underdogs. Mostly LP.

Ron Paul is a Republican, as are the "Ron Paul Republicans." However, in political terms these are outsider campaigns with the characteristics of 3rd party runs.

Every 2 or 4 years, people get very passionate about supporting certain underdog candidates. Then what happens is instead of staying to help build a movement, many people who have unrealistic expectations drop out of politics and/or join the "establishment" when their pet candidates do not miraculously win.

It is reality that most of these candidates will lose and many will not make it out of the primaries. So what happens then?

If you want to build a movemnent you do it in NON-Election years. You dont just come out every 2 or 4 years , get all passionate and then give up when you lose. You keep going and keep building.

One thing Ron Paul Republicans can learn from the 3rd parties and the GOP establishment is how to or how NOT to buildup a political party. For example, IMHo, parties like the LP and CP commit political suicide by running candidates for offices they are not qualified. You dont start at the US Senate or President. If you can't even win an election for your town council ( where people should know and LIKE you, since they are your neighbors) why would you run for COngress or Senate?

The Democratic and GOP establishments have the power they do by GROOMING candidates. If we want to take over the GOP we should do the same.

For example, someone might spend a couple years on City COuncil, then a couple terms in the State House ( keep in mind you actually have to win at each level) before they even consider running for Congress or Governor, not to mention US Senate or above.

I am talking about Millionaire proffessionals ( lawyers, doctors, businessmen) who humble themselves to be involved in their local political scene and work their way up.

The party establishments didnt build themselves up in 1 day by deciding to run a slate of guys for Congress. They run candidates on all levels and groom them for advancement. Running a slate for Congress or some other office is a GOOD START. Though realisticaly if you really want to win and have no experience and no impressive credentials even Congress is way too hig to aim- unless you are running a "paper" or educational campaign only. Why not run a Ron Paul Republican takeover of your town or city govenrment- you know locally where most issues that people reallly care about are decided. Or try to take over cities, counties, state house, state..you get the idea.

Here is a real example of the pessimism ( well, actually Reality).

One candidate on that list is running as a Ron Paul Republican in my home COngressional District. He has at least 4 competitors for the GOP nom, including the incumbent and 2 state senators who are very successful and well liked.

The Republican incumbent is a 9 term COngressmen. The GOP establishment is running wealthy and successful candidates against him and he is a target. For silly reasons like his brother being gay ( wtf?). Yes, he does have a socailly liberal voting recoprd. However the #1 reason he is a target? YEP, he voted for Troop Withdrawl in Iraq. That is the # 1 reason he is called a "RINO" and must be defeated. Sound familiar?

Running against him ( and ahead of the Ron Paul Republican) are:

1.A multimillionaire state senator who was a past GOP candidate for US Senate. He lost to a long serving popular Democrat Senator ( our state is 2-1 Democrat). He was a state senator at the time and has now been there for about 6 years.

2.A doctor who has served in the State Senate since 1999. He has been endorsed by the former Governor, most state senators in the district, The Club for Growth, and just about every local political writer, blogger, local conservatives,etc.

3. A Ron Paul Republican who has been called a "crazy nut" by what little coverage he has received.

4. Some other guy I'm not familiar with.

In this case the Ron Paul Republican will finish no higher than 4th in the GOP Primary. He may finish a little higher if someone else drops out and endorses the #1 challenger.

While I don't know if every race is quite this competitive, I am imagine MOST of the Ron Paul Republicans who are running for high level office as part of the "Ron Paul slate" face similar odds and are likely to lose primaries to many other candidates.

This is not pessimism. It's political reality and the ability to analyze the specific situations.

now, I think all these people running for Congress and other offices- It's a GREAT Thing. And I APPLAUD them. All I said in my post was that MOST ( I didnt say all) will lose- which is a political fact. When you run for office, most people lose. We had at least 11 Republicans running for POTUS. 11 out of 11 will lose. There is nothing wrong with saying that.

My commentary was, when everyone puts all their efforts and passion into a cause that ( politically speaking) will most likely lose in the short term- what really matters is how you face defeat and you move forward.

As we all know Barry Goldwater lost his race for president in 1964, and it was a big loss. Worst loss by a major POTUS candidate in history at the time, I believe. but many many people credit Goldwater and the time the GOP spent "in the wilderness" for the Reagan Revolution and re-emgergence of the Republican Party. For that to happen people had to stick around and keep working away at the establishment even in the face of terrble defeat.

Now, in my recent experience with longshot candidates- especially when Young People ( or people with ZERO voting experience or real life experience who latch onto a cause or candidate with delusions of sure victory) make up a lot of the base. They expect immediate gratification and if they dont WIN 100% of their pet issues, they cry and go home or join the popular kids in the estalishment.

What I am saying is I hope people dont have that attitude and choose to stick around and build the movement, especially locally and in non election years. I don't want to see a "Ron Paul Republican" movement go the way of the 3rd parties and other political losers.

rodo1776
02-03-2008, 07:08 PM
best news I have heard all week. Get out there and run. take advantage of what we have built so far. Do it as a republican.
Also everyone please consider local offices. These can be the easiest to win and we need grass roots. This will take time but we can do it working together. This is great news and I will be opening my wallet for some of these campaigns.

chowdy
02-03-2008, 07:42 PM
This is a great, great thread.

Someone here had a sig with a video of guys talking about The R[evol]ution and they made the excellent point that if it all hinged on Ron Paul... then we're not electing a president, we're electing a king.

FireofLiberty
02-03-2008, 07:46 PM
http://www.libertywarchest.com

Wanna help the RPR and pro-liberty candidates running for Congress? Everyone please go to the above site, sign up and be part of it on Feb. 14th!

And please, if you do take part in it make BJ Lawson (http://www.lawsonforcongress.com) one of the candidates you contribute to on that day :D

Cal Mabus
02-03-2008, 07:57 PM
BUMP for filing

BryanGreene2008CCC
02-05-2008, 09:58 AM
Please consider helping Bryan Greene's campaign for Congress (NC-10) by donating online at www.bryangreene08.com/donate.html (http://www.bryangreene08.com/donate.html)

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parke
02-05-2008, 10:29 AM
we are going to win.

parke
02-05-2008, 10:30 AM
best news I have heard all week. Get out there and run. take advantage of what we have built so far. Do it as a republican.
Also everyone please consider local offices. These can be the easiest to win and we need grass roots. This will take time but we can do it working together. This is great news and I will be opening my wallet for some of these campaigns.

+1

parke
02-05-2008, 10:35 AM
No it wasn't. Let me explain. Like many here, I have many elections of experiences supporting and voting for underdogs. Mostly LP.

Ron Paul is a Republican, as are the "Ron Paul Republicans." However, in political terms these are outsider campaigns with the characteristics of 3rd party runs.

Every 2 or 4 years, people get very passionate about supporting certain underdog candidates. Then what happens is instead of staying to help build a movement, many people who have unrealistic expectations drop out of politics and/or join the "establishment" when their pet candidates do not miraculously win.

It is reality that most of these candidates will lose and many will not make it out of the primaries. So what happens then?

If you want to build a movemnent you do it in NON-Election years. You dont just come out every 2 or 4 years , get all passionate and then give up when you lose. You keep going and keep building.

One thing Ron Paul Republicans can learn from the 3rd parties and the GOP establishment is how to or how NOT to buildup a political party. For example, IMHo, parties like the LP and CP commit political suicide by running candidates for offices they are not qualified. You dont start at the US Senate or President. If you can't even win an election for your town council ( where people should know and LIKE you, since they are your neighbors) why would you run for COngress or Senate?

The Democratic and GOP establishments have the power they do by GROOMING candidates. If we want to take over the GOP we should do the same.

For example, someone might spend a couple years on City COuncil, then a couple terms in the State House ( keep in mind you actually have to win at each level) before they even consider running for Congress or Governor, not to mention US Senate or above.

I am talking about Millionaire proffessionals ( lawyers, doctors, businessmen) who humble themselves to be involved in their local political scene and work their way up.

The party establishments didnt build themselves up in 1 day by deciding to run a slate of guys for Congress. They run candidates on all levels and groom them for advancement. Running a slate for Congress or some other office is a GOOD START. Though realisticaly if you really want to win and have no experience and no impressive credentials even Congress is way too hig to aim- unless you are running a "paper" or educational campaign only. Why not run a Ron Paul Republican takeover of your town or city govenrment- you know locally where most issues that people reallly care about are decided. Or try to take over cities, counties, state house, state..you get the idea.

Here is a real example of the pessimism ( well, actually Reality).

One candidate on that list is running as a Ron Paul Republican in my home COngressional District. He has at least 4 competitors for the GOP nom, including the incumbent and 2 state senators who are very successful and well liked.

The Republican incumbent is a 9 term COngressmen. The GOP establishment is running wealthy and successful candidates against him and he is a target. For silly reasons like his brother being gay ( wtf?). Yes, he does have a socailly liberal voting recoprd. However the #1 reason he is a target? YEP, he voted for Troop Withdrawl in Iraq. That is the # 1 reason he is called a "RINO" and must be defeated. Sound familiar?

Running against him ( and ahead of the Ron Paul Republican) are:

1.A multimillionaire state senator who was a past GOP candidate for US Senate. He lost to a long serving popular Democrat Senator ( our state is 2-1 Democrat). He was a state senator at the time and has now been there for about 6 years.

2.A doctor who has served in the State Senate since 1999. He has been endorsed by the former Governor, most state senators in the district, The Club for Growth, and just about every local political writer, blogger, local conservatives,etc.

3. A Ron Paul Republican who has been called a "crazy nut" by what little coverage he has received.

4. Some other guy I'm not familiar with.

In this case the Ron Paul Republican will finish no higher than 4th in the GOP Primary. He may finish a little higher if someone else drops out and endorses the #1 challenger.

While I don't know if every race is quite this competitive, I am imagine MOST of the Ron Paul Republicans who are running for high level office as part of the "Ron Paul slate" face similar odds and are likely to lose primaries to many other candidates.

This is not pessimism. It's political reality and the ability to analyze the specific situations.

now, I think all these people running for Congress and other offices- It's a GREAT Thing. And I APPLAUD them. All I said in my post was that MOST ( I didnt say all) will lose- which is a political fact. When you run for office, most people lose. We had at least 11 Republicans running for POTUS. 11 out of 11 will lose. There is nothing wrong with saying that.

My commentary was, when everyone puts all their efforts and passion into a cause that ( politically speaking) will most likely lose in the short term- what really matters is how you face defeat and you move forward.

As we all know Barry Goldwater lost his race for president in 1964, and it was a big loss. Worst loss by a major POTUS candidate in history at the time, I believe. but many many people credit Goldwater and the time the GOP spent "in the wilderness" for the Reagan Revolution and re-emgergence of the Republican Party. For that to happen people had to stick around and keep working away at the establishment even in the face of terrble defeat.

Now, in my recent experience with longshot candidates- especially when Young People ( or people with ZERO voting experience or real life experience who latch onto a cause or candidate with delusions of sure victory) make up a lot of the base. They expect immediate gratification and if they dont WIN 100% of their pet issues, they cry and go home or join the popular kids in the estalishment.

What I am saying is I hope people dont have that attitude and choose to stick around and build the movement, especially locally and in non election years. I don't want to see a "Ron Paul Republican" movement go the way of the 3rd parties and other political losers.

Thats a solid analysis. I dont think this movement is going away.

Freedom is popular.

Hancock1776
02-05-2008, 06:27 PM
Johncjackson's analysis is spot on.

Being an outsider is political cyanide. We need to stay together and stay focused, but as we run for local offices we can't be these Internet Beings assaulting from the outside. Enthusiasm and an agenda makes you look crazy and unrelatable. A political death sentence no matter how many dollars come into your campaign over the web.

I'm backing freeople.com. It will allow us to stay together while giving us the tools to build local coalitions.

the_oco
02-05-2008, 06:36 PM
This list deserves a new title and a sticky. Any way to break that up by district/state? Maybe attach the full name to each candidate, that list is a little hairy as is.

Ibgamer
02-05-2008, 06:46 PM
Swells my heart!

Jeremy
02-05-2008, 06:48 PM
This list deserves a new title and a sticky. Any way to break that up by district/state? Maybe attach the full name to each candidate, that list is a little hairy as is.

When I made this thread it was to show people what we are doing. I hear a few of the candidates aren't actually RP ppl... well we can all organize it later.

misconstrued
02-05-2008, 06:49 PM
I'm donating to all these campaigns (after checking them out). We need to organize on a large scale to support these candidates and others like them.

DXDoug
02-05-2008, 10:59 PM
Bump great List!

newmedia4ron
02-06-2008, 04:53 AM
this is a movement

nodope0695
02-06-2008, 05:07 AM
Collins Baily is running in my district...he's also running as a Ron Paul Delegate! He's got my vote on both.

athlon64bit
02-06-2008, 08:59 AM
Great post storm. Definitely only the beginning of a movement!

mosquitobite
02-06-2008, 09:11 AM
When I made this thread it was to show people what we are doing. I hear a few of the candidates aren't actually RP ppl... well we can all organize it later.

Schansberg is in Indiana's 9th district and is *the* reason I support Dr Paul. He was my economics professor in college who awakened me to the abuses of federal government programs and "meddling".

He's definitely someone Ron Paul supporters should support.

Enemies Domestic
02-06-2008, 09:13 AM
THIS is the way it gets done.

flames2dust77
02-06-2008, 09:14 AM
OMG, this is great!

BUMP!

NinjaPirate
02-06-2008, 12:56 PM
:eek: Dayum!!

Edu
02-07-2008, 03:47 AM
bump

all J's in IL for RP
02-07-2008, 04:39 AM
How about instead of everyone shooting for the moon on their first run, folks take a shot at State Representative? Some of the people on this list might be able to put up a good fight, but I bet you bottom dollar many are shooting too high. State Rep is a much more affordable, without establishment guys already in the way or vying for office. The grassroots organizations that are helping Paul, presumably from where most of these folks launched their campaigns, are much more suited to a local support base a state rep is looking for. Victory here, more easily attained, would serve as a basis to build a person's reputation for higher office.

EvilNight
02-07-2008, 09:21 AM
I keep telling folks... we NEED a Ron Paul Republican Moneybomb network.

We need to be having money bombs every paycheck targeting those folks on this list who have a shot. It's our biggest weapon and these campaigns cost far less than presidential ones. If we can bomb up 250K-750K that's overkill for these guys. It would allow them to dominate their local media, and we all know once you hear the message you're in.

pinkmandy
02-07-2008, 09:44 AM
One man can make a difference! GO RON PAUL!!!!!

newmedia4ron
02-07-2008, 12:10 PM
We must stay connected. Please bookmark some of these links:
http://www.libertyforest.com
http://www.paulcongress.com/
http://www.rlc.org/
http://www.freeople.com/
http://www.ronpaulambassadors.com/
http://www.congressionalcoasttocoast.com/
http://libertyia.ning.com/
http://www.libertywarchest.com/
http://www.bringthemhome08.com/
Real ID links (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=93827)
http://www.theadvocates.org/links.html
http://www.constitution.org/cs_organ.htm
http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/links.html
http://freedomkeys.com/morelinx.htm
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/links.php
http://www.libertarianism.com/links.htm
http://www.conservativeusa.org/ritelink.htm
http://www.freedom21.com/freedomlinks.asp
http://www.newswithviews.com/links/links.htm
http://www.l4l.org/links/index.html
http://www.ronpaul.net/html/links.html
http://www.privacyrights.org/links.htm

scooter
02-07-2008, 12:34 PM
How did most of your respond, but ignore the other members who posted saying that some of the people on the list are in direct disagreement with Dr. Paul's policies?

Just going through a few of them, there are quite a few who are supportive of Iraq and other issues that we are against.

How did they make this Paul Congress list? What is the criteria?

mysticgeek
02-07-2008, 12:43 PM
Excellent post!

newmedia4ron
02-07-2008, 12:52 PM
How did most of your respond, but ignore the other members who posted saying that some of the people on the list are in direct disagreement with Dr. Paul's policies?

Just going through a few of them, there are quite a few who are supportive of Iraq and other issues that we are against.

How did they make this Paul Congress list? What is the criteria?

Well we need to make sure to filter out the fake "Ron Paul Republicans".

the criteria should be something like:
Personal Freedom
Protect Individual Rights
Humble Foreign Policy
Free Enterprise
Integrity

newmedia4ron
02-07-2008, 11:49 PM
b u m p

mosquitobite
02-13-2008, 02:01 PM
Bump

DirtMcGirt
02-13-2008, 02:07 PM
Im sure this has already been proposed but can each meetup get assigned to a congress campaign...

kigol
02-13-2008, 02:11 PM
amazing.

justatrey
02-14-2008, 02:00 PM
:D

Mani
02-14-2008, 02:19 PM
Post of the YEAR!

This is the REAL Revolution!

And the neocons won't know what hit them.

Bubba
02-14-2008, 02:43 PM
+1

+1 Got's to keep the Revolution alive!

Andrew76
02-14-2008, 02:45 PM
Truly awesome. This needs to be divided up state by state so we can all help out. And hell, who couldn't support a dude names "Terbolizard?"

Ummm.... your last name is Turbo Lizard?

No, it's Terbolizard.

Bubba
02-14-2008, 02:46 PM
How about instead of everyone shooting for the moon on their first run, folks take a shot at State Representative? Some of the people on this list might be able to put up a good fight, but I bet you bottom dollar many are shooting too high. State Rep is a much more affordable, without establishment guys already in the way or vying for office. The grassroots organizations that are helping Paul, presumably from where most of these folks launched their campaigns, are much more suited to a local support base a state rep is looking for. Victory here, more easily attained, would serve as a basis to build a person's reputation for higher office.

Revolutionaries don't settle for second best, they Go for the GOLD! Why start at the bottom?

gb13
02-14-2008, 02:53 PM
Amazing!

We need more... Much more. Imagine if we could build a majority in the house; that would be a dream come true!

Edit: Any of these fine people from MA? Yes, I suppose I could look through the whole list... but I really would rather be spoon-fed the appropriate link haha.

gb13
02-14-2008, 03:23 PM
Some of these people need help with web design.
Any takers?

davidkachel
02-14-2008, 03:44 PM
http://peterjames08.com/

The video "Money as Debt" on this guy's web site is absolutely amazing. Best I've seen. I am going to have to watch it two or three more times to take it all in, but I think I finally "get it". Until now I just thought we were getting screwed, but it turns out we are getting SCREWED!

Highstreet
02-14-2008, 03:49 PM
Is there a list by state?

And, yes, can we sticky this.

davidkachel
02-14-2008, 03:54 PM
How did most of your respond, but ignore the other members who posted saying that some of the people on the list are in direct disagreement with Dr. Paul...

How did the Patriot Act pass so quickly and easily? Nobody bothered to READ it!

Highstreet
02-14-2008, 04:12 PM
Go Ohio!!!

http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm

Expatriate
02-14-2008, 04:34 PM
http://peterjames08.com/

The video "Money as Debt" on this guy's web site is absolutely amazing. Best I've seen. I am going to have to watch it two or three more times to take it all in, but I think I finally "get it". Until now I just thought we were getting screwed, but it turns out we are getting SCREWED!

Good find! That video is awesome! Really well done and interesting to watch.

Peace&Freedom
02-14-2008, 05:48 PM
Two issues that should be clarified are, is there a regular process for vetting these candidates? As one pointed out from glancing at the sites, a few of the "Paulite" candidates are pro-Iraq war. How does that work, especially considering Paul has said he would not be endorsing the frontrunner unless he changed his views on the war/occupation? Can meetup groups in each area meet with the prospective candidates and (armed with the Paul slimjim) get answers as to their views on the 11 item agenda Paul has been running on?

Second, are the candidates winning the Republican nomination in districts that actually trend Republican? If not, then how can they win? For example, a local Libertarian running for Congress in my district is also trying to get the Republican nod as well---but the district is 90% Democrat. Ron Paul Republicans should take a tip from the Ron Paul playbook, and only run in CDs where, once nominated, you are likely to win the election (in like manner, Ron Paul Democrats should run to be the Democratic nominee only in the Democratic leaning CDs). Otherwise, you are only running to educate the public, and not to win.

justatrey
02-14-2008, 08:03 PM
bump

TruthAtLast
02-14-2008, 08:13 PM
http://peterjames08.com/

The video "Money as Debt" on this guy's web site is absolutely amazing. Best I've seen. I am going to have to watch it two or three more times to take it all in, but I think I finally "get it". Until now I just thought we were getting screwed, but it turns out we are getting SCREWED!


Money as Debt is actually the complimentary video to "the Money Masters" video.


www.themoneymasters.com (http://www.themoneymasters.com)

Or you can watch it for free here:
Google Video - The Money Masters (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936)

burningfur
02-14-2008, 08:41 PM
EDIT: This was posted some time ago and has not been updated... but you get the point (just saying this since it was bumped to the front).

http://terbocongress.org/
http://lindagoldthorpe.com/Home.html
http://www.tedbrown.org/
http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/
http://www.mcduffieforcongress.com/
http://santoroforcongress.org/
http://www.votejasonthompson.us/
http://www.conscienceofaconservative.com/
http://www.schansbergforcongress.com/index.html
http://www.joinsanders.com/
http://www.joearminioforcongress.org/home.html
http://www.richardmatthews.org/
http://www.panasuk08.com/
http://localpolitics.meetup.com/142/
http://peterjames08.com/
http://www.starkmanforcongress.com/
http://www.baileyforuscongress.com/
http://hargadonforuscongress.com/htdocs/modules/articles/article.php?id=1
http://jayroberts2008.com/
http://www.bryangreene08.com/index.html
http://www.peterbearseforcongress.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/default.asp
http://www.senatorcarraro.com/index.php
http://www.davidrgrate2008.us/
http://www.johnwallaceforcongress.com/
http://www.gobrinkman.com/
http://www.mikesmitley.net/
http://www.reformcongress.com/
http://www.daveryon.com/
http://www.diamondforcongress.com/Home.htm
http://www.tomlingenfelter.com/
http://kevingeorgeforcongress.org/home.htm
http://www.jostforcongress.com/
http://www.mckinleyforcongress.com/
http://www.forward-usa.org/
http://hessforgovernor.com/
http://www.jimforsythe.com/

We weren't joking about a revolution.

Someone award the OP with the best post of the year award.

Seriously, great job. :)

Ha! There's a reason you haven't ever heard of a McCain Republican!

evadmurd
02-14-2008, 08:42 PM
bump

Edu
02-15-2008, 11:11 AM
bump - looks like it was updated yesterday

mconder
02-15-2008, 11:14 AM
We should have a central website to monitor the progress/success of these people.