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freedom-maniac
02-02-2008, 06:44 PM
The two states so far Romney has won (MI and NV), Dr. Paul did better than usually. In MI he took 4th, finally being bumped out of the 5th place rut. In NV he took second. From the looks of it Romney may win ME, and Dr. Paul is doing better in ME than any other state.

Is their a correlation of is it just me?

dirka
02-02-2008, 07:03 PM
It's because the idiots think that Romney is closer to being conservative, and they don't want to waste their vote on Ron Paul and have McCain win. Its that simple. If Ron got a fair shake, he would be doing much much better.

PhillyEagles11
02-02-2008, 07:07 PM
Because caucuses require lots of organization unlike a normal primary. And with the money he is able to throw around he probably has a good ground organization in every state.

Highstreet
02-02-2008, 07:11 PM
The two states so far Romney has won (MI and NV), Dr. Paul did better than usually. In MI he took 4th, finally being bumped out of the 5th place rut. In NV he took second. From the looks of it Romney may win ME, and Dr. Paul is doing better in ME than any other state.

Is their a correlation of is it just me?


I think there's also a correlation between who is viewed as the Fiscal Conservative.

If and when Mitt drops out, we will get alot of those votes or delegates.

What we really need to do is offer Mitt a Cabinet position if he drops out and endorses Paul.

Staupostek
02-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Because caucuses require lots of organization unlike a normal primary. And with the money he is able to throw around he probably has a good ground organization in every state.

I seem to recall that in a couple of states, RP was about the only one who actually campaigned in a state. Then, Romney buys some adds in the days before the election and suddenly he is reported as the only candidate who campaigned in that state, making it look like he is the only one who cared about those votes. So, I don't know if it is necessarily ground organization as much as it is having money and MSM coverage in a state.

Eponym_mi
02-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Fiscal conservatives abhor McCain and Huckabee. So, if the state is predominantly made up of fiscal conservatives, RP does better....unfortunately Romney does too.

specsaregood
02-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Also, the Mitt team has been following closely the Ron Paul campaign.
A couple months ago somebody in the Advertising business told me that the Romney campaign was actively seeking WHERE the Ron Paul campain was advertising so they could advertise in the same area. (public information in the industry)

Then just the other day Mitt said they were gonna focus on the caucus states only....

Eponym_mi
02-02-2008, 07:15 PM
What we really need to do is offer Mitt a Cabinet position if he drops out and endorses Paul.

No way he'd settle for anything less than VP...and maybe not even that.

OptionsTrader
02-02-2008, 07:16 PM
The economy in Maine is absolutely horrid.

It is expected that the perceived "businessman Republican" and the real fiscal conservative libertarian-leaning Republican will do well among people that are savaged in a sluggish job market like Maine.

Eponym_mi
02-02-2008, 07:17 PM
Also, the Mitt team has been following closely the Ron Paul campaign.
A couple months ago somebody in the Advertising business told me that the Romney campaign was actively seeking WHERE the Ron Paul campain was advertising so they could advertise in the same area. (public information in the industry)

Then just the other day Mitt said they were gonna focus on the caucus states only....

If true, RP and his supporter need to go into stealth mode about strategy.

specsaregood
02-02-2008, 07:19 PM
If true, RP and his supporter need to go into stealth mode about strategy.

It is true, but it is public information. Any candidate can find out where another candidate is advertising. Which regions, which stations, what time. It is all public information in the ad industry. No way to hide it.

What i was told is that that Romney campaign was VERY interested in finding out where Ron Paul was advertising. This was at the beginning of December.

Starks
02-02-2008, 07:20 PM
Let them advertise. It's not our job to stifle their message.

noztnac
02-02-2008, 08:34 PM
Did it not dawn on people that Romney is a liberal too?!

We need to make this very simple for people. Romney and McCain are both liberals.

Ron Paul for Liberty
02-02-2008, 08:47 PM
Romney isn't a liberal, hes a Neo-con, there is still a difference believe it or not.

Doriath
02-02-2008, 08:49 PM
I don't thik there's any particular relation. Romney was always expected to do well in the Northeast and in states with big Mormon populations, like Nevada. Meanwhile, Paul was always expected to do well in more libertarianish regions, like Maine and Nevada.

gaazn
02-03-2008, 12:24 AM
because those are all the states huckabee did poorly in. RP and huckabee also competes for the voters who can't stand McCain or Romney.

deanne
02-03-2008, 12:49 AM
The economy in Maine is absolutely horrid.

It is expected that the perceived "businessman Republican" and the real fiscal conservative libertarian-leaning Republican will do well among people that are savaged in a sluggish job market like Maine.

yes - just as in Michigan, where the economy is all the talk.
if i had not been aware of Ron Paul, my choice would have been Romney - that "business man" sell works well on me. :o
thank goodness i heard about the Revolution!
the amusing thing is that report from the National Taxpayers Union, showing that Mccain has the lowest projected spending increases based on campaign policy - which obviously could change come general election time when he has to make new promises.
but you just can't beat Paul's projected decrease in spending!

also, Romney - some fiscal conservative he is, promising the MI auto industry 20 million. that's buying the vote from my pocket, if you ask me.

Molly1
02-03-2008, 01:06 AM
Funny how they are all copying Ron Paul.

For all their naysaying, we seem to be the hub of the Republican effort.

Pretty soon Huck will be releasing his new book: Evolution: A Manifesto

amonasro
02-03-2008, 01:18 AM
Pretty soon Huck will be releasing his new book: Evolution: A Manifesto

BWAHAHAHA :D :D

That's great...

pacelli
02-03-2008, 01:34 AM
Also, the Mitt team has been following closely the Ron Paul campaign.
A couple months ago somebody in the Advertising business told me that the Romney campaign was actively seeking WHERE the Ron Paul campain was advertising so they could advertise in the same area. (public information in the industry)

Then just the other day Mitt said they were gonna focus on the caucus states only....

Make no mistake about it, they have been lurking these forums for months.

mathamagician
02-03-2008, 01:38 AM
It's because Romney and RP are both from the small government branch of the Republican party. This means the inner-mountain west but also new hampshire and Maine. These areas have a general mistrust and dislike of big government and they are not religious social conservatives like in the south.

dblee
02-03-2008, 07:28 AM
i heard romney say in an interview here on a local talk radio show that he would be honored to have anyone who ran as a republican as his VP except for ron paul

freedom-maniac
02-03-2008, 07:40 AM
Romney isn't a liberal, hes a Neo-con, there is still a difference believe it or not.

The differences?

Torture
Perpetual warfare (some times liberals like it)
Wire Tapping

ronpaulmn
02-03-2008, 08:56 AM
Romney forced people in his state to buy health insurance, whether they wanted it or not. Even fining them if they didn't buy it. And he created a new department of government to support it, and and the government subsidizes the insurance. It sounds like socialist/liberal government to me.
Plus he supported amnesty cities for illegals. On the business side, Bain capital buys up companies, cuts heads, sends jobs overseas to cut costs, and sells off the parts. Else the jobs he keeps are the lowest paying ones, he wants the cheapest labor possible, and illegals fit the bill, especially if given amnesty. He's the worst of all worlds.

gold standard
02-03-2008, 08:58 AM
i heard romney say in an interview here on a local talk radio show that he would be honored to have anyone who ran as a republican as his VP except for ron paul

Mitt is delusional to have a VP he has to get elected.

freedom-maniac
02-03-2008, 02:17 PM
Romney forced people in his state to buy health insurance, whether they wanted it or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29

freedom-maniac
02-03-2008, 02:17 PM
Mitt is delusional to have a VP he has to get elected.

:DThat made me laugh. Thanks.