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New Governor Of Alaska
02-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Hello, everyone.

I decided to start this thread in Ron Paul Grassroots Central to get your attention to the upcoming conflict between NATO and Russia (I hope it won't happen though)...

http://incentraleurope.radio.cz/pictures/loga/nato_vlajky.jpg

Russian army prepares for nuclear onslaught
29/ 01/ 2008

MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Andrei Kislyakov) - Barely a month into the new year, the military have already attracted a lot of attention. Following a mild verbal skirmish over ABM components after the holidays, Russian and foreign generals have decided to talk in the open.

In a move that mirrors recent discussion amongst Russia's own top brass, NATO's April summit in Bucharest is widely expected to discuss a report on a potential pre-emptive nuclear strike.

According to The Daily Telegraph, the authors of the report are convinced there is a real risk that terrorists could lay their hands on weapons of mass destruction in the near or immediate future. To counter this, the alliance may consider suppressing the enemy with nuclear weapons.

Though the report is likely to cause controversy in NATO countries, the authors appear to be merely echoing an idea originally broached by Russian Chief of General Staff Yury Baluyevsky. Speaking at a meeting of the Academy of Military Sciences on January 19, Gen. Baluyevsky declared that force should be used not only in the course of hostilities, but also to demonstrate the readiness of leaders to uphold their national interests. "We are not going to attack anyone," he reassured his audience, "but we want all our partners to realize that Russia will use armed force to defend its own and its allies' sovereignty and territorial integrity. It may resort to a pre-emptive nuclear strike in cases specified by its doctrine."

It is strange that many esteemed domestic military experts consider this statement simply a repetition of Russia's old military doctrine, which allowed it to use nuclear weapons first. Under the 2000 doctrine, Russia is ready to use nuclear weapons not only in retaliation against a nuclear attack, as was previously the case, but in response to "a large-scale conventional aggression in a situation critical for the national security of the Russian Federation and its allies." This certainly broadens the rules of engagement, but still does not envisage a pre-emptive nuclear strike without hostilities.

Gen. Balulevsky's announcement appears to change this, in which case Russia will need a new military doctrine. This is not a new task. In early March last year, the Security Council press service released a statement saying that the Security Council would revise the 2000 military doctrine to account for new realities. The statement added that the new doctrine would be drafted by the Security Council in conjunction with interested government bodies and a number of scientific institutions.

Baluyevsky thus made his recent statement at an organization which is quite suitable for the drafting of the new doctrine.

If the new doctrine endorses the General Staff's nuclear ideas, we will have new armed forces, with all the ensuing consequences.

First, these forces will become strictly offensive because of the very nature of a pre-emptive strike. This will require totally different mobilization plans and a new approach to recruiting for the Army and Navy. Considering the number and geography of military-political conflicts in which Russia is in some way involved, this will require the deployment of mobilized troops on a territory stretching from the Baltic Sea to the Pacific.

It is not difficult to predict the economic consequences Russia would face in this case. But let's come back to the Armed Forces. Permanent readiness to resolve tasks militarily - by offensive operations in an indefinitely vast number of directions - implies the permanent enhanced combat readiness of all units, without exception. Otherwise the very idea of a pre-emptive strike will not work. For such a policy to be effective, Russia should be ready to deal this strike from a broad diversity of geographical locations on its own territory, neutral air space, and the world's oceans.

If Baluyevsky's words are heeded, Russia will have to equip all services of the Armed Forces with permanently combat-ready nuclear weapons. Nobody can guess who will use them first.

READ MORE - http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080129/97936766.html




FOR MORE INFORMATION CHECK THESE THREADS:

NATO Build-Up On Russia's Borders
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=103674

Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened - army chief
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=94563

There Gonna Be Other Wars - John McCain (Video)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=108943

What is Ron Paul's Opinion About US Missile Defense Shield In Central Europe?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=88207

PimpBlimp
02-02-2008, 02:38 PM
So is it time to stock up on potassium iodine

New Governor Of Alaska
02-02-2008, 02:50 PM
So is it time to stock up on potassium iodine

Maybe....

brumans
02-02-2008, 02:57 PM
So is it time to stock up on potassium iodine

What's that used for?

PimpBlimp
02-02-2008, 03:00 PM
What's that used for?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide

Gimme Some Truth
02-02-2008, 03:01 PM
What's that used for?

Protects you against radiation. I think it blocks up your thyroid ...

Shabow
02-02-2008, 03:06 PM
I bet ol' Bush has a hard on over this news!

Azprint
02-02-2008, 03:07 PM
It won't happen. But Bush needs to pull his head out of his ass and stop being so aggressive with rocket shield in Poland and Checzoslovakia, fucking idiot.

Warrior_of_Freedom
02-02-2008, 03:07 PM
It won't happen. But Bush needs to pull his head out of his ass and stop being so aggressive with rocket shield in Poland and Checzoslovakia, fucking idiot.

As long as Russia doesn't Nuke NJ :P

Azprint
02-02-2008, 03:09 PM
As long as Russia doesn't Nuke NJ :P

Don't worry, you'll die because of Nuclear Winter anyway ;)

FindLiberty
02-02-2008, 03:13 PM
Better buy a Geiger counter too. I understand that
NY has "outlawed" private ownership of air quality
monitors and radiation detectors...

'Guess they will tell us when it's safe to get back to work
after the bright flash and heat of a thousand suns.

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I also understand that you can smear liquid iodine on your skin
to help protect you thyroid gland. (product itdea: SPF 1000000
sunscreen with Iodine lotion)

+++

Switching to lead foil hat now ...and
keep a patch over one eye at all times!
(that's so you can find your Iodine or "K" pills
after the bright blinding flash.)

Truth Warrior
02-02-2008, 03:18 PM
NATO = first NWO army.

New Governor Of Alaska
02-02-2008, 03:45 PM
It won't happen. But Bush needs to pull his head out of his ass and stop being so aggressive with rocket shield in Poland and Checzoslovakia, fucking idiot.

Breaking News...

Saturday, 2 February 2008
Poland 'agrees' to host US shield

Poland's neighbour Russia is opposed to the US shield
Poland and the US have reached an agreement in principle to install a controversial American missile defence system on Polish soil.
In return for hosting part of the shield, the US has said it will help bolster Poland's air defences.

The US wants to install interceptor missiles in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic.

Russia opposes the project, saying it would destabilise global security and undermine its own nuclear deterrent.

In October, Russian President Vladimir Putin compared the plans to the Cuban missile crisis of the 1960s, which saw the US and Soviet Union go to the brink of nuclear war.

read more - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7223568.stm

freedom-maniac
02-02-2008, 03:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide

Hey, wikifying threads is my thing...oh well...

AMeredith
02-02-2008, 03:55 PM
I get my KI, nukalerts, and great info here. He's a big Ron Paul supporter.

http://www.ki4u.com/

Agent CSL
02-02-2008, 04:02 PM
That's just lovely, but old news. :P
It makes a good argument for the fear voters.

New Governor Of Alaska
02-03-2008, 01:22 PM
NATO = first NWO army.

Yes, it seems like Russia is the only country that resists NWO.
Russia didn't even send troops to Iraq....

Time for Change
02-03-2008, 02:38 PM
Yes, it seems like Russia is the only country that resists NWO.
Russia didn't even send troops to Iraq....

LOL...Russia didn't have the money to go to Iraq...they would have had to borrow it.

Hmmm...who's the smarter leader?

Mr. White
02-03-2008, 02:44 PM
In January 2008, John Marburger, the director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the United States, stated that potassium iodide pills "offer negligible additional protection" against radiation exposure, and that in the event of a nuclear radiation emergency, efforts would be better spent on evacuation and distribution of safe food.

wiki

Mystile
02-03-2008, 02:46 PM
Yes, it seems like Russia is the only country that resists NWO.
Russia didn't even send troops to Iraq....

true, but Russia's already got its problem with Chechnya.

New Governor Of Alaska
02-03-2008, 03:14 PM
LOL...Russia didn't have the money to go to Iraq...they would have had to borrow it.

Hmmm...who's the smarter leader?

Russia didn't have money to send troops to Iraq? What kind of nonsense is this?

:D

Time for Change, I don't know where are you getting your information from but even new-born "independent" countries like Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Estonia, Kazakhstan and Moldova (all former Soviet republics) which depend on trade with Russia (last year Latvia was crying when Russia refused to renew their license to sell canned sardinas in Moscow, and Georgia went nuts when Russia refused to except Georgian wine and oranges) sent some soldiers to Iraq.
Lithuania has troops in Afghanistan also.

Putin doesn't want to be a part of NWO/US games, and that is why he is under attack.

Former Soviet republic of Moldova had sent 12 soldiers to Iraq (just to please their new master I assume).

Check it out -
Iraq Coalition Troops
Non-US Forces in Iraq - February 2007
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_orbat_coalition.htm

Shink
02-03-2008, 03:15 PM
Yes, it seems like Russia is the only country that resists NWO.
Russia didn't even send troops to Iraq....

No, Russia and Japan/China and some other Asian countries. I believe that is why they're letting China buy our debt/land, as a way to hold down their resistance to the New World Order. Please listen to the Fulford interviews on Jeff Rense: http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Benjamin_Fulford_070507.mp3

and

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Benjamin_Fulford_072307.mp3

Fulford says he's in contact with a secret society in Asia that plans to kill the NWO. It's worth your listen.