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colecrowe
02-02-2008, 01:24 PM
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PLEASE FLOOD THEM. They would love to cover this. Thanks
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he got more donations from military members and veterans than any Republlican and Democrat--and more than all the Republicans put together:

$95,709 = total military donations to Huckabee, McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson put together.

Ron Paul Q4 donations from Military members and Veterans Grand Total: $131,078.33

Data for all Candidates Q4: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/
Ron Paul Q4 Main Page: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00432914.html
Ron Paul donations by employer: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00432914/A_EMPLOYER_C00432914.html

list of all search terms used:
"army, air, usaf, navy, naval, marine, usmc, coast, uscg, defense, dod, national, guard, reserve, vet"

Hillary Clinton [I]Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($20,055.98): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=109290
Obama Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ( $35,405.01): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=109097

Huckabee Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($29,360.32): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=107835
McCain Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($42,354.00): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=107870
Romney Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($9,328.00): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1142317

Rudy Giuliani Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($5,500.00): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=109291
Fred Thompson Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($15,167.00): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=109300

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RON PAUL'S DATA, FROM HERE: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00432914/A_EMPLOYER_C00432914.html

ARKANSAS ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 800
ARMY "3,486.90"
ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS 150
"ARMY NAT'L GUARD / SHARP CONCEPTS, INC" 324
ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 525
CHUCK E CHEESE; SOUTH CAROLINA ARMY [National Guard] 100
DEPARTMENT OF ARMY 500
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT- US ARMY 201
FLORIDA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 135.1
MA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 200
NEVADA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 652
"PICATINNY ARSENAL, US ARMY" 187
SHERWIN WILLIAMS; ARMY "1,200.00"
STALEY MOVING/US ARMY VETERAN 688.26
U S ARMY AVIATION ENGINEERING 125
U S ARMY OFFICER 250
UNITED STATES ARMY "2,028.28"
UNITES STATES ARMY 250
US ARMY "34,987.82"
US ARMY (RETIRED) "1,028.76"
US ARMY ACTIVE DUTY "2,300.00"
US ARMY AVIATION ENGINEERING 700
US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS 470
US ARMY CTNG 511
US ARMY ENGINEER CORP 247.76
US ARMY MATERIEL SYSTEMS ANALYSIS 100
US ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 252.95
US ARMY RESERVE 864.48
"US ARMY RETIRED, CSC" 100
US ARMY TACOM 721.95
"US ARMY VETERAN, WWII" "1,776.00"
US ARMY/WALTON CO 150
UTAH ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 300
VETERAN ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 201

Army Total 56514.26

AIR FORCE 683.45
AIR FORCE VET 400
DOD/AIR FORECE 300.00
NEBRASKA AIR NATIONAL GUARD 320.00
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE "6,047.26"
GEICO (USAF VETERAN) "1,100.00"
RETIRED USAF 250.00
USAF "24,721.05"
USAF RETIRED "1,664.52"
USAF VETERAN "1,067.00"
USAFR [Reserve] 200

Air Force Total "36,753.28"

BCPS - NAVY RESERVE 130
DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY "1,638.28"
DEPT OF NAVY "1,700.00"
DOD US NAVY 277.95
DON-DEPARTMENT OF NAVY 265.00
JMP PROMOTIONS/US NAVY RESERVES 300
NAVY "1,800.09"
U S NAVY "4,940.11"
UNITED STATES NAVY "1,532.95"
US NAVY NMCB 133 UNIT 60254 FPO AA 250.00
US NAVY RESERVE 651
US NAVY/DEPT OF DEFENSE "1,475.00"
NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER "1,336.25"
NAVAL ORDNANCE STA "2,300.00"
NAVAL UNDERSEA WARFARE CENTER 123
US NAVAL RESERVE 125

Navy Total "18,844.63"

UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS "1,365.00"
US MARINE CORP 296
DOD USMC 566.50
FEDERAL GOVERMENT USMC 500
USMC "1,832.76"
USMC (RET) 125
USMCR [Reserves] 150.00

Marine Corps Total "4,835.26"

UNITED STATES COAST GUARD "1,403.96"
US COAST GUARD 690.00

Coast Guard Total "2,093.96"

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE "3,059.61"
DEPT OF DEFENSE "1,301.00"
DEPT OF DEFENSE & LOCKLHEED 297.04
US DEPT OF DEFENSE "1,700.00"
DOD "1,755.17"
US GOVENMENT DOD "1,000.00"

Department of Defense Total "9,112.82"

MN NATIONAL GUARD 57.5
MONTANA NATIONAL GUARD 470
NATIONAL GUARD 661.11

Unknown Specific Branch Total 1188.61

DISABLED VETERAN 350
DISABLED VIETNAM VET 216
RETIRED - WWII VETERAN 330
RETIRED VET 300
RETIRED VETERAN 116.97
VETERAN 422.54

Veteran Unknown Branch Total 1735.51

Grand Total "131,078.33"


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be sure not to count these.. they are probably civilian/tech--not uniformed military:

BASSETT ARMY MED CENTER 700
SIERRA ARMY DEPOT 100
US ARMY CIVILIAN 528.45
US AIR FORCE (CIVILIAN) 365.76
US AIR FORCE (CIVILIAN) 365.76
ARMY SPOUSE 201 (that's my wife :))

UNITED STATES NAVY/CIVIL SERVICE 875
US NAVY, CIVILIAN 175
NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL 200
NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY 450
NORFOLK NAVAL SHIPYARD 300
PEARL HARBOR NAVAL SHIPYARD & IMF 500.7
PORTSMOUTH NAVAL SHIPYARD 300
PUGET SOUND NAVAL SHIPYARD 136.5
US NAVAL RESEARCH LAB 2,300.00

DEFENSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AGENCY 100

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Note: This is no surprise, since everyone one I know who has served in Iraq including myself supports RP or Obama.

He has over 682 official, signed endorsments from Military and Veterans on his website, and many, many of those have served in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other wars.
Here they are: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/veterans
And here's a page where you can see the total count (on the right): http://people.ronpaul2008.com/endorsements/category/veterans/

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 01:24 PM
not sure how good that list is... my wife and I both donated in the 4th qtr and we are not on that list of military donations.

If 14 people said U.S. Army they would all be one item on the list.

If 3 People said United States Army, they would all be one item on the list.

Get it?

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 01:25 PM
I just submitted this on the suggestions page of the official campaign website:

This is just a friendly note to let you know how the good Dr. compares to the other Republicans in military donations from the 4th quarter (if you weren't already aware). According to the FEC reports:

Donations from active and retired military in 4th quarter 2007:

Ron Paul Grand Total $131,078.33

Data for all Candidates Q4: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/
Ron Paul Q4 Main Page: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00432914.html
Ron Paul donations by employer: http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/Y...C00432914.html

list of all search terms used:
"army, air, usaf, navy, naval, marine, usmc, coast, uscg, defense, dod, national, guard, reserve, vet"

Huckabee Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($29,360.32): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=107835
McCain Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($42,354.00): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=107870
Romney Q4 Military members and Veterans donation totals ($9,328.00): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1142317

This is a request to please spread the word! Dr. Paul outgains all other Republicans put together!

Thank you for all the work you do spreading the good word for Dr. Paul.
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colecrowe
02-02-2008, 01:28 PM
does anyone here have a dailypaul account. Please post this, and then tell us here, so it can be bumped up.

thanks.

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Send it to this Malcolm guy... he ALWAYS writes about Ron Paul.

Send it please. All of us.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/news-shocker-ro.html

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bump

send to cafferty, everyone else, drudgereport,

especially the nation and huffington post (they covered it last time)

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Contacting Stars and Stripe: http://www.stripes.com/webpages.asp?id=98

http://www.navytimes.com/contact/

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http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/contact/

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 01:31 PM
Help me send this news to John Derbyshire (the man at National Review Online who endorsed RP) http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWIzYWI4NTBjYTc3NGE1OGEwYWMyZjE1NDZjOWVmMDQ=

email him here: http://article.nationalreview.com/comments/?q=ZWIzYWI4NTBjYTc3NGE1OGEwYWMyZjE1NDZjOWVmMDQ=


Also help me flood Andrew Sullivan with this. He reported it last Quarter, and he has endorsed RP
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/12/ron-paul-for-th.html

email him here: andrew@theatlantic.com

IDefendThePlatform
02-02-2008, 01:41 PM
This is huge. HUGE.

The people that are responsible for waging foreign wars have voted with their pocketbooks. If we can avoid war, we should do absolutely everything in our power to do so.

Also, I think the most interesting corrollary to this is the fact that Michael Scheuer, the former head of the CIA's bin Laden counterorrism organization, agrees with RP word for word about the cause of islamic terrorism in America being our government's foreign policy in the middle east. I think if every clear thinking person in America heard this, RP would indeed be the next president.

RPsupporterAtHeart
02-02-2008, 01:44 PM
Does someone wanna make sure the campaign has these numbers so that Ron Paul can ANNOUNCE them at some point, perhaps tonight to show the American public what the soldiers want?

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 01:49 PM
Does someone wanna make sure the campaign has these numbers so that Ron Paul can ANNOUNCE them at some point, perhaps tonight to show the American public what the soldiers want?

This is moving so slow! If Obama or Hillary had gotten this honor, it would be on every network right now.

Jobarra
02-02-2008, 01:58 PM
I think more telling is the fact that he received almost as much as all candidates COMBINED according to these figures.

Ron Paul - $131,078.33
All other candidates - $157170.31

Also, because only those donations above $200 are reported, I'm willing to bet there are WAY more actual donations.

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 02:39 PM
Bump

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 05:56 PM
I think more telling is the fact that he received almost as much as all candidates COMBINED according to these figures.

Ron Paul - $131,078.33
All other candidates - $157170.31

Also, because only those donations above $200 are reported, I'm willing to bet there are WAY more actual donations.

there's quite a few little bitty donations in all these numbers, so I don't think the 200 dollar thing is correct

ionlyknowy
02-02-2008, 06:29 PM
bump

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 06:55 PM
bump

colecrowe
02-02-2008, 09:14 PM
Please flood Reason Mag with this data:

http://reason.com/contact/

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jeez, check this out--Eric Dondero is such an idiot (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/).

Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470670) I’ve yet to meet a Military guy, active duty or Veteran, who is opposed to the War in Iraq. Commie Libertarians love to pretend that the Military guys in Iraq are opposed to the War. That is complete and utter bullshit, and those who repeat such lies are basically ASSHOLE FASCIST SCUM WHO HATE AMERICA.
That includes you Stephen Gordon.
A BIG FAT FUCK YOU FROM A FORMER FRIEND. DONT YOU EVER FUCKING CALL ME OR CONTACT ME FOR ANYTHING EVER AGAIN. YOU HATE AMERICA AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR YOU PRICK.
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:33 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470672) Eric Dondero, United States Navy
1981-85
USS Kittyhawy CV-63
USS Luce DDG-38
Member, Veterans of Foreign Wars, & American Legion
Father & Brother First Cavalary, Persian Gulf War, 1991
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470674) This websited is no longer worth a flying shit. It’s been taken over by Communist Islamo-Fascist lovers who spit on their country, and burn our American flag.
Bring back Austin Cassidy. I once thought Stephen Gordon was rational. Now I learn he’s just an treachorous, treasonous America-hater.
And to believe this fucker has the audacity to call himself a “libertarian.”
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470675) There you go you all. Proof positive that so-called Anti-War Libertarians really hate the Military. Stephen Gordon says he’s “sick and tired of seeing bumper stickers and ribbons that support the Troops.” In other words he hates the Military. It’s not just the War in Iraq and Afghanistan that he’s opposed too. It’s the Military itself.
Don’t ever trust an Anti-War Libertarian. They’re just Commie Islamo-Fascist lovers posing as “libertarians.” They don’t have a libertarian bone in their bodies.
Stephen Gordon (http://www.thirdpartywatch.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470690) Eric,
I referred to “’Support the Troops’ magnetic ribbons on the back of a vehicle also sporting a ‘W’ sticker”—not merely supporting the troops.
I’m also, as you are aware, a veteran who opposes the Iraq War. You know others, such as Tom Knapp. This renders this statement false: “I’ve yet to meet a Military guy, active duty or Veteran, who is opposed to the War in Iraq.”
I don’t hate the military or the defense of America. It is the Iraq War which I find offensive.
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470714) Fuck you Stephen. Don’t try to weasel out of this. YOU MOTHER FUCKER! You just represented EVERYTHING THAT’S FUCKING WRONG WITH THE LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT. It’s been taken over by Commie Fascists like you who hate the Military.
I WILL NEVER EVER LET YOU FORGET THIS POST. You can apologize til your blue in the face. You have just made a huge enemy.
I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO STOP YOU MILITARY HATING MOTHER FUCKERS IN OUR LIBERTAIRAN MOVEMENT.
You have just been put on notice.
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470736) Stephen Gordon’s remarks now up at www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com (http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/)
Soon to be spread all over the internet.
Solid proof that Anti-War Libertarians really do hate the Military. They’ll never be able to live this one down.
Andrew Taylor Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470748) sigh
Mr. Dondero, I’ve attempted to give you credit where credit is due, and I’ve pointed out that many of your fellow Libertarians have unfairly dismissed you, your insights, and your opinions. I have learned from you, and I think you have some very important and valuable things to say.
However, IF —and I preface my comments with “IF,” as I don’t know whether or not the childish, immature and petulant comments that have appeared in this thread actually were written by you—you are indeed the author of any or all of the above comments, you’ve demonstrated that you are your own worst enemy.
And your comment, as Mr. Gordon noted, is demonstrably untrue. Indeed, when you and I first exchanged words over at the Reason blog, I noted that I was a former Marine who opposed the Iraq War. Can’t we simply agree to debate the merits (or lack thereof) of the Iraq War, rather than immediately descending into name-calling, obscenities, and profanity?
I really and truly believe that you are a better man than this.
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470753) Fuck you Andrew.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. This is ain’t childish. It’s called LOVING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAhttp://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/%21!!
Gordon just spit on the Troops. I cannot believe he did this.
Call me anything you want. Call me an asshole. BUT DON’T YOU DARE CURSE MY COUNTRY. Don’t you dare spit on the Troops.
I will come after you with everything I’ve got. And if you doubt my resolve, just ask Raimondo.
Eric Dondero (http://www.mainstreamlibertarian.com/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-470759) there ain’t no goddamn merits to debate Mr. Taylor. If you oppose the War in Iraq, you are in favor of Al Qaeda. There’s no debate about it.
DID YOU NOT SEE WHAT THEY DID YESTERDAYhttp://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/%21http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/%21http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/%21
Al Qaeda got two Mentally Retarded women to strap on bombs, unknowingly. They sent them into a crowded square in Baghdad, and then electronically activated the bombs, killing 80 people.
And you and Gordon have the audacity to defend these Terrorists.
There should be headline stories on this Blog condemning Al Qaeda, condemning their actions in tricking these Mentally Handicapped young women to strap on these bombs.
But instead, we have a post the VERY NEXT DAYhttp://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/%21! From Stephen Gordon saying that the US Military doesn’t support the War in Iraq, and that he hates seeing those “ribbons that say Support the Troops.”
If you don’t support the War in Iraq, you are an Al Qaeda supporter, plain and simple. There’s no weasling out of it, or rationalizing it. Y

Victor Salazar (http://hopingforchange.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/presidential-candidates-q4-donations-from-military-troops-and-veterans/) Says:
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 pm (http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/#comment-471865) Wow. Even though I have a purple heart and lost good friends, and almost all my buddies who served in Iraq as Army infantryman agree with me that the war in Iraq is stupid and not in America’s interests, my brother-in-law another Army infantryman who served in Iraq, the buddies I know who have gone from Marine Corps to Army (three of them in my unit—1 was artillery, 1 was combat engineer, and 1 was support—all served in Iraq) are all against this war! But I guess we hate america and love Osama Bin Laden! SOB! I wouldn’t mind taking out some PTSD rage on this bastard. He is the only one who is anti-American. WHY IS HE NOT IN COMBAT—I don’t give a rat’s ass if he is a Veteran—go there now and fight!

I kind of agree with Victor's chickenhawk argument above. But this is how I always clarify it: You are NOT a chickenhawk just becuase you support a war but do not serve. There is basically nothing wrong with that. But if you support a war, do not serve, AND THEN you call people who are against the war unamerican or unpatriotic just because they disagree with the war--then you are the lowest of the scum of the earth--and you are a chickenhawk and deserve no respect and deserve to get exposed if you for instance were a draft dodger. So, just because Cheney and Romney are draft dodgers and also support this war does not make them chickenhawks, and does not make me have anything against them. But, once they call people who disagree with the war--ESPECIALLY TROOPS WHO HAVE SERVED IN IT (me included)--then they are chickenhawk cowards and horrible people.

Stephen Gordon
02-02-2008, 09:44 PM
[B]Third Party Watch is kinda reporting this...but they don't have the right numbers (These Ones).
Flood them with these, the correct ones: http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/02/ron-pauls-military-fundraising-totals-republican-leaders-dont-really-support-the-troops/

PLEASE SEND THIS TO http://thirdpartywatch.com/contact-us/
AND TO http://www.americanchronicle.com/notices/submit_work

PLEASE FLOOD THEM. They would love to cover this. Thanks
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[snip]

OK, guys. I just updated the posting in question and there is no need to "flood" me. I've already been interrupted several times from coordinating crucial RP sign deliveries to Alabama from Florida, Tennessee and Georgia by phone calls telling me about the updated military financial information.

We've been dominating the sign war down here for months, but Huckabee, McCain and Romney signs are now starting to win, the national campaign isn't sending us more signs, and it is probably too late for a new order from the grassroots.

It's not that I'm not happy to take your calls or e-mails, but it's just a matter of immediate priorities.

Thanks,

Stephen Gordon
Alabama Ron Paul Media Coordinator
Publisher, Third Party Watch
Proud 10 Year Army Veteran

FSP-Rebel
02-02-2008, 10:07 PM
Dondero is such a Bitch. He's just a punk trying to make his way into the neocon circle.

kyleAF
02-02-2008, 10:20 PM
I'm active duty, and I don't support the war. There ya go, Mr. Dondero. Oh and "Commies" aren't allowed in the U.S. military under UCMJ regulations... so I guess I'm not one of them.

Libertarian...maybe.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this post do not represent the Air Force, DoD, or the United States Government. They are solely the views of the individual concerned. :)