View Full Version : At McCain Speech, a Paul Rally Breaks Out
qwerty
02-02-2008, 03:07 AM
ST. LOUIS -- Everything about Arizona senator John McCain's appearance in an airport hangar here Friday was predictable: the stump speech, the well-worn jokes and the warm-up speakers who spoke of how well-prepared McCain was to confront terrorists who threaten the American way of life.
Everything, that is, except for the supporters of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) who showed up.
Sure, you may have seen them on street corners and heard them cheer on their candidate in debates. But they made a serious impression at McCain's rally, including by waving handmade signs declaring "The Media is Bias" (as opposed to "biased") and "McCain is a Democrat."
Todd Haupt, who lost his real estate business last year and now sells health drinks, said he and his fellow Paulites came to demonstrate there's a different sort of Republican also seeking the nation's highest office, politely.
"You can't interrupt McCain while he's speaking," Haupt explained as he held his sign attacking the Fourth Estate. "You don't want to disrespect the guy."
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/01/at_mccain_speech_a_paul_rally.html?hpid=sec-politics
jasonjasonjason1
02-02-2008, 03:11 AM
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derdy
02-02-2008, 03:28 AM
Rather than copy and paste from other threads, I will post the links to those threads here:
The oringinal thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=107739
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=109163
MattMinnesota
02-02-2008, 03:43 AM
"The Media is Bias" (as opposed to "biased")
So is that a 'grammar police' jab at Paul supporters? I don't get why they put that there. Haven't they ever heard of a metaphor?
jasonjasonjason1
02-02-2008, 03:45 AM
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MattMinnesota
02-02-2008, 04:17 AM
I don't think it was a shot. They were just telling the reader about the play on words and probably clarifying so nobody thought it was a spelling mistake on their part(I probably would have thought so)
Yeah you're probably right. I'm just so conditioned to think everything the media says is somehow negative towards Paul. :o
derdy
02-02-2008, 04:25 AM
"The Media is Bias" (as opposed to "biased")
So is that a 'grammar police' jab at Paul supporters? I don't get why they put that there. Haven't they ever heard of a metaphor?
Actually, when the person who brought the sign brought the grammar to my attentnion, I said, "It's supposed to be, 'The Media is Biased,'."
However, the sign that he brough said, "The Media is Bias," and it's grammatically correct!
It's a true statement, bias is defined as:
to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, esp. unfairly: a tearful plea designed to bias the jury.
jasonjasonjason1
02-02-2008, 04:59 AM
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devil21
02-02-2008, 05:13 AM
Someone's post a few nights ago makes me giggle. paraphrased
"Since Rudy dropped out and endorsed McCain, does John know that we come too?"
hehe
MattMinnesota
02-02-2008, 05:22 AM
Actually, when the person who brought the sign brought the grammar to my attentnion, I said, "It's supposed to be, 'The Media is Biased,'."
However, the sign that he brough said, "The Media is Bias," and it's grammatically correct!
It's a true statement, bias is defined as:
to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, esp. unfairly: a tearful plea designed to bias the jury.
Except..bias is a noun. Biased is a transitive verb. So if you mean to say the media is the same thing as bias (which I personally like better myself) then it is correct. If you mean to say the media presents biased views it would be incorrect. Either way, I like that the sign said bias - it is a more profound statement.
Dan Klaus
02-02-2008, 05:42 AM
enough with the bias debate....its taking away from the fact the McCain will now have to cope with the pressure of RP supporters taking away his media quest....good stuff - hope we continue to be a part of his every stop - just in a civilized and appropriate manner of course...
ButchHowdy
02-02-2008, 06:46 AM
"Bias has to do with the elimination of points of view, not presenting a point of view." - Fox News President Roger Ailes
idiom
02-02-2008, 07:06 AM
Well now that we don't have to follow Rudy around...
Opiner
02-02-2008, 07:59 AM
Bias = to cause partiality or favoritism in (a person); influence, esp. unfairly: a tearful plea designed to bias the jury.
I don’t know how you read the definition and decided the media is biased. If the media is biased I don’t think we would be discussing it. The media is downright in-your-face against the truth. A better statement would be, the media opposes the truth. They are not just inclined towards their agenda; they are fully invested in it.
Oppose = to stand in the way of; hinder; obstruct.
wgadget
02-02-2008, 08:03 AM
"The Media is Bias" (as opposed to "biased")
So is that a 'grammar police' jab at Paul supporters? I don't get why they put that there. Haven't they ever heard of a metaphor?
Haven't they ever heard of bad sign spacing? Maybe the poor guy ran out of room...sheesh.
bp2519
02-02-2008, 08:20 AM
youtube?
freedom-maniac
02-02-2008, 08:21 AM
I don't think it was a shot. They were just telling the reader about the play on words and probably clarifying so nobody thought it was a spelling mistake on their part(I probably would have thought so)
"The Media is Biased" indicates that being biased is a quality of the media.
"The Media is Bias" indicates that bias is what the media is, and that their is no inherent difference between them.
It's like saying
"The man is green" which implies the man has a green color to him
and
"The man is Green" which implies that Green is who the man is. (ie Mr. Green)
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